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All-In [10492]
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Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 8:42 AM
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One of the big things that annoys me with college football today, and is honestly kinda turning me off from it (compared to previous years, anyway), is the incessant talk, speculation and opinion. What conference will this team be in next year, preseason rankings, preseason playoff odds, preseason Heisman picks, coaches on the hot seat, underrated/overrated teams, preseason draft picks, preseason and pre-game predictions, preseason this, preseason that, and on and on and on. I haven’t done any leg work on it, but just from my basic knowledge of how the seasons typically start vs how they end, 90% of it ends up being wrong!!
I’ll watch the games. I’ll definitely pull for my Tigers and support them however I can. But all the talk, all the drama, all the speculation, potential conspiracies, opinions (and we all know what they say about opinions and what they’re like), etc, etc, etc. And now we have all the betting lines and odds and such out there, too, in mainstream sports media. I don’t care!
Maybe it’s a function of getting older (get off my lawn!!). I’ve seen enough to know that most of all that talk is just that – talk, designed to make the talker look intelligent, when at the end of the season, almost everything they predicted will not happen, but that little fact never comes up, somehow. Go figure. I’ve wasted enough hours of my life listening to all that drivel. I used to faithfully watch Gameday, and the college postgame show in the evening, and keep up with all that, but I’m pretty much done with that. Just let me watch and enjoy the games. I don’t really care about all the rest. I'm kinda done with letting all that dictate my day and, most of all, my attitudes.
Spot the ball and play the game! Go Tigers!
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Game Changer [1888]
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Old man yells at clouds vibes.
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Aug 21, 2024, 8:58 AM
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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LOL
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Aug 21, 2024, 12:00 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [33723]
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you got it all wrong
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Aug 21, 2024, 9:08 AM
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I’ve seen enough to know that most of all that talk is just that – talk, designed to make the talker look intelligent
it's not about being right, making predictions, or being intelligent.
IT's 100% about making money. The Finebaums know exactly what they are doing and the good ones do it well.
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Clemson Conqueror [11371]
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At the gym, ESPN is usually on the TVs with no sound. It's amusing watching
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Aug 21, 2024, 9:11 AM
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"whoever" argue, gesticulate, and act passionate while discussing - at length - who should be the 3rd string QB at Rutgers.
I'll read an occasional article, but I tuned out the incessant talk, speculation and opinion years ago.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Yep, that's right . . .
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Aug 21, 2024, 9:37 AM
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it's all about three things:
1. The stroking of egos (of opinion-makers and influencers);
2. Keeping the talk overwhelmingly incessant - i.e. manufacturing endless "story lines" in order to milk it for maximum dollars;
3. Reflexively feeding an unhealthy level of interest/obsession.
I have enjoyed Tiger football very thoroughly through the years and it was a big part of my childhood and life in general. And that's just fine - everyone has various things that capture their interest in a particular way. But the way college football is marketed now just stokes that tendency to harbor a level of unceasing engrossment in more and more details, speculation, hashing, re-hashing, re-re-hashing, etc. in a way that doesn't jive with a balanced life and interest. It's sort of pathetic. The corporate interest is simply milking it hard, and taking something of the spirit of the game with them.
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Hall of Famer [8596]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 9:42 AM
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I agree with what you and others have said. A lot of it is about money. As we get older we realize most of them have no clue what they are talking about so why waste the time listening to it? I stopped watching all of those opinion shows long ago and just watch the games and an occasional post game analysis - especially to hear them cry from time to time 🙂.
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CU Guru [1592]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 9:50 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, it's been that way for about 10 years. Of course with social media, it's much more prevalent - too prevalent if you ask me. There ain't really that much to talk about that's worthwhile
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Orange Phenom [14603]
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It's very, very easy to avoid all of that
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:04 AM
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The only CFB content that i watch on TV is games. I read absolutely nothing online except Clemson news on Tigernet and the occasional thing that pops up on my Google feed that I'm actually interested in.
If i want to listen to any CFB content i do it via podcasts. I'm familiar with about a half dozen of these. I know what each one brings to the table in terms of content, presentation, humor, etc, and i listen accordingly.
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All-In [10902]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Yes, there is more interest than ever. Look up attendance and tv ratings.
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All-TigerNet [6043]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:18 AM
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You're not on an island. 
My enthusiasm for CFB has been waning as well. All the stuff you mentioned, so true. I practically grew up watching college Game Day...never missed it. Can't stand it now, or ESPN, or the way they schill for the SEC. I remember when they cheerleaders for all CFB, not one conference.
Greed from the networks, university's, NIL, transfer portal, coaches jumping ship, etc...it's a major turn off.
I remember when a few TNET posters were angry-sniping at anyone who didn't support the BLM protests in sports like the CFB, NFL, etc... Even the NFL has lost viewership, forever. The same thing is happening to college football IMOP, it's basically turning into the NFL-lite. As far as the transfer portal and the current NIL go....it's turned into a wild west of cheating. There's no accountability. Dabo correctly predicted all of it....and got trashed by the sports-media-morons.
I love my Tigers...but I suspect whenever Dabo finally hangs it up I may stop watching CFB altogether.
Go Tigers!
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CU Medallion [19752]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:37 AM
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Super simple solution: stop reading and watching. This isn’t a new phenomenon. It’s been going on since there has been television and sports reporters. What’s changed is you. You’re the old man yelling at cloud. Be thankful we have football for the world to talk about it! Enjoy the journey. You’re in control. No one’s making you read or watch all these talking heads. Enjoy the ride or not. The choice is up to you.
Message was edited by: OneJedi® thanks to ducking autocorrect and fat fingers.
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Orange Blooded [2295]
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I keep telling people that we have yet to understand the effects
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:38 AM
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of the digital age on society. Digitizing data has removed almost all gatekeepers and lowered the cost for providing information in print and visual form. We no longer have the cost of film and film processing. Now anyone and everyone can take almost unlimited pictures. For 95% of the population the pictures they take meet their needs. A lot of them have deluded themselves into beliveing that that actually take really good photographs. The vast majority don't.
On youtube and other platforms you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a blog/podcast etc., that has someone providing their opinion about virtually any topic let alone sports. Digital has allowed anyone to put their opinions on the web. I think most of it is not only crap but it now has become virtually impossible to know who is telling the truth. To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, it's not that people believe in nothing, it's that they are willing to believe in anything... and put it on the internet.
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CU Medallion [19752]
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Re: I keep telling people that we have yet to understand the effects
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:46 AM
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We really do understand the effects. It’s GenZ and millennial’s in a nutshell. No interpersonal skills, no ambition or drive, instant gratification society, anti-social personality disorder, higher average IQ scores, laziness, obesity, and the list goes on and on. Forget any of them reading a book. Their attention span is barely as long as a TikTok video. They would rather watch a video of people doing something rather than experiencing it themselves.
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CU Medallion [19752]
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Re: I keep telling people that we have yet to understand the effects
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:50 AM
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I have a nephew that fits that profile perfectly. I have been dragging him out to experience things first hand. His mind is blown how awesome it is to have human interaction and actually do things in the real world. I took him to his first baseball game this summer and he’s now hooked. I also have been dragging him to the gym to help him work off his obesity. Instead of takeout eaten at home I’m making him have social dinners and interactions with family and friends with no technology allowed. He’s starting to blossom and understand the value of fellowship with live humans. We can change them one heart and mind at a time!
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Orange Phenom [14603]
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Orange Elite [5510]
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Orange Phenom [14603]
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're not into video games
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Aug 21, 2024, 2:47 PM
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I think it's natural for people to want to watch other people participating in a hobby that they enjoy whether that's fishing, fossil hunting, surfing, climbing, jumping off frigging mountains in squirrel suits, restoring cars, or even playing video games.
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National Champion [7746]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 10:59 AM
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I've been saying for years the best way to enjoy college football is to cut on the TV two minutes before kickoff and turn it off two minutes after the final whistle. If you're spending any time at all listening to the morons rambling on and on you're wasting your time.
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All-Pro [740]
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I am with you. My 2024 fantasy schedule has
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Aug 21, 2024, 11:41 AM
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few FCS games as a result of exactly what you write.
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National Champion [8071]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 12:41 PM
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o2bnclemson I completely and utterly understand.
I would add; the people who would tell you and I we are wrong! Old! Uninformed! Or anything else about our concern for the sport do not get one thing. That is: "we are looking at where the sport is heading"!
Those people are looking at the state of the sport today; when people like you and I are still interested. And, spending money for it.
The generation coming up now has not shown they have the same "attention span" and "patience"! CFB became big much like other "OLD" vices when there wasn't other distractions that were as good.
Now a day; there are other distractions to take people's attention away. Many of the people who have put as much time/energy/money into the sport are getting older and older and getting further and further away.
Until one day the flag bearers will be a much less interested crowd. And far less patient for anything that isn't a TD on each play. They'll change the rules to "make it more exciting" but that will only do so much. At that point, it won't be football - it will be two hand touch!
All the talk is for the "clicks"!
The views!
The streams!
In short, it's all about making more revenue.
The Lovely Thought of the sport being innocent and just about "true amateurism" is long gone.
One day when they try to make it two conferences and someone in South Carolina has no representation at that level. I think it will bite the sport in a bad way. I wouldn't be interested in it as much if nobody from my region had a chance to win it.
The NFL became more fun for example; once we got the Carolina Panthers! Having a stake in it "truly" changes the perspective.
It's all for the money and before long it will cause too much chaos. Chaos that isn't at it's zenith yet; but it's coming! You and I can see it; others have to touch the hot eye on the stove 1st.
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Standout [222]
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Saw us win a natty as a kid. Saw us win two nattys as an adult.
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Aug 21, 2024, 12:46 PM
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With NIL and the crazy $$$ etc also in the mix, I am a casual watcher now. Seen my share of crap enough in life now that my energy, emotional, and financial investment on if we win or lose in football is pretty much just a notch above indifference. I'll watch and if we win, great. If we lose, oh well. All that said though I am going to go to the vs. Standford game at Homecoming this year and obviously will stand and cheer or sit and cheer, but I ain't losing my voice over it.
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Orange Elite [5307]
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Re: Interest in football has changed over the years
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Aug 21, 2024, 2:39 PM
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Playing devil's advocate here, but college football conference realignment is nothing new. Remember the SWC, Pac-10, Big-10, Big-8, the Big East, etc....
Social media has drastically changed the landscape, but how about when cable and ESPN changed how many games were played. You used to only see 3-4 games a week on national TV in the 70s.
College football players have been paid since the beginning of time. Good college players used to take a pay cut when they went pro.
Maybe its no different... Adapt or become extinct.
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