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Paw Master [16842]
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Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:31 AM
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'members how it works folks? 3 years and done. Then bring in someone with ties to the school.
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Re: Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:34 AM
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Yep!
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Re: Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:36 AM
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He was a sacrificial jerk!
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Re: Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:43 AM
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The you followup with Tommy Worst. Loved by many but not up to the task at hand. I hope Bama goes into a sinkhole like we did for a decade+
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Re: Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:48 AM
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Yes. Seemed like West was supposed to be the second coming of Danny Ford that didn't pan out. Didn't he work on Ford's staff. I remember all the comparisons to Ford when West won his first game in the Peach Bowl against Kentucky just like Danny won the Gator Bowl in his first game as HBC after Pell left.
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yes, on Fords staff 1982-89.***
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:06 AM
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Hiring Tommy West was a worse decision than Hatfield.***
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:46 AM
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Difference was, Hatfield fell all over himself taking the Clemson job. From what
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:48 AM
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I read, he took it over the phone, never having even set foot on campus. Just speaks to the talent that Danny left behind.
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Any coach worth his salt...
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:59 AM
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should have won at least two if not three national championships with all the talent they inherited from Danny.
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Re: Any coach worth his salt...
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:04 AM
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Well, why didn't Danny win any Nattys in the late '80s? He also had plenty of talent.
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Danny didn't have us in contention for a national championship
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:32 AM
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in the late 80s. We lost 2 games each year for several years in a row.
He was recruiting well, but to say that he would've won more national championships, or that any other coach should've, is a huge reach.
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Re: Danny didn't have us in contention for a national championship
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Jan 12, 2024, 12:43 PM
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Agreed. Danny was an excellent coach. He recruited well, developed well enough, especially on the defensive side and the running backs. Special teams not bad. Passing game????? This was his weakness, IMHO. If the other teams shut down our running game, fugetaboutit.
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Re: Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 9:53 AM
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Hatfield was a good person and a better coach than either of the Tommy's... but yes, he was the man after the man... we were in shock for years after Danny Ford was abruptly fired. Nothing short of a national championship would have saved Hatfield.
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Re: Ken Hatefield = sacrificial lamb
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:08 AM
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Used up all the talent that Danny recruited. When he depleted what we had on the shelf it was clear he was a good Christian man but a terrible coach and recruiter. Tammy was better but didn't have killer instincts....always settled for the FG and played not to lose.
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His job was even harder since some of our own "fans"
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:33 AM
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actively dissuaded recruits from coming to Clemson to play for him.
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Ken inherited a NC capable team
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Jan 12, 2024, 10:03 AM
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Didn't perform, recruiting took a dive, took a swipe at the the staff before him, claiming that at least his staff did things right
He had the chance, blew it.
Didn't Ford take over for a successful Pell ?/ LOL
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Hatfield was an overrated arrogant jerk who took a talented roster
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:29 AM
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and destroyed it.
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Tiger Titan [51071]
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Hatfield is a good guy.
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:34 AM
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I'm sorry you still aren't over your negative feelings for him 30 years later.
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Clemson Icon [24822]
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Oh sure. I lived through it. I witnessed it with my own eyes and ears.
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:36 AM
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Football is not your forte.
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Great, so did I.
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Jan 12, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Message boards are not your forte.
You see, you called Hatfield a jerk and a bad coach. My only response to you was that he is a good guy and that I'm sorry you haven't moved on from your anger/hatred/resentment/whatever you're feeling.
I'm not sure how you drew any conclusions about my football knowledge from that post.
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Clemson Icon [24822]
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So, we agree that he was a bad coach, we just disagree on all of your
Jan 12, 2024, 2:32 PM
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other points.
Unlike your feelings towards Dabo and Brownell, my opinions about our coaches don't carry all of that emotional baggage.
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