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110%er [6219]
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Just an overdue THANK YOU to Dubya for this Iraq
Jun 12, 2014, 11:20 AM
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disaster. So glad we went in there to get all those WMDs. Working out great 13 years later. What a f###ing mess.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Do you even congressional approval, bro?***
Jun 12, 2014, 11:20 AM
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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I voted against before I voted for it.***
Jun 12, 2014, 11:21 AM
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Bewwwwmmmm***
Jun 12, 2014, 11:29 AM
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All-In [34108]
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JYT wishes Barry hadn't ended the war!***
Jun 12, 2014, 11:23 AM
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Depends how one defines "end" I guess....
Jun 12, 2014, 11:34 AM
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I think we should have left a presence there.
I've got no way to prove it, but I strongly suspect that President Obama didn't push very hard to have a Maliki agree to leave a base there and likely wanted that decision as cover.
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All-In [34108]
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Also depends on what the definition of "is" is.***
Jun 12, 2014, 11:48 AM
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All-In [31896]
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Well, the Korean war is "over"...do we still have troops....
Jun 12, 2014, 11:53 AM
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there?
Japan? Germany?
Point is, a war can "end" and troops can still remain.
Regardless of how one feels about the Iraq war, it seems to me than no one wants to see Islamic militants/ISIS take control of the country.
The only thing worse than spending all of the blood and treasure there is to have it all be for not.
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All-In [34108]
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It was all for naught, regardless of whether we stay there.
Jun 12, 2014, 12:22 PM
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But we've still got our guys in Saudi Arabia, yeah?
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All-In [31896]
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It was not all for naught (thanks phone auto-correct)....
Jun 12, 2014, 12:48 PM
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if democracy can stand in Iraq. In my estimation, secular democracy standing and spreading in the middle east is about the only long-term hope for some semblance of peace there.
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... or maybe another puppet dictator (modus operandi)...***
Jun 12, 2014, 4:06 PM
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All-In [34108]
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Some people really think that.
Jun 12, 2014, 11:49 AM
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Which is funny since we were told that we were trying to liberate the Iraqi people.
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tried that, meh
Jun 17, 2014, 9:09 AM
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now let's make it a giant solar panel for the rest of the world
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All-In [34108]
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Do they get any sun there?***
Jun 17, 2014, 11:04 AM
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Re: Do they get any sun there?***
Jun 17, 2014, 12:41 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97727]
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Just goes to show, that a country that believes in gay
Jun 12, 2014, 11:27 AM
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marriage will never be able to bring democracy to a country that executes gay people.
Let's all pray for a ruthless dictator that we can get a long with. Unfortunately we will probably not be so lucky.
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All-In [30193]
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Lets just divide up Iraq into three states where the
Jun 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
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Sunnis, Shia, and Kurds.
That or flood the whole place.
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Rock Defender [53]
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We should let Putin take over.
Jun 12, 2014, 11:33 AM
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I've looked into his eyes and I can trust him.
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All-In [30193]
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Sounds good to me
Jun 12, 2014, 11:45 AM
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We'll just call it West Russia
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Sandy Russia
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I have asked several Muslim friends this question.
Jun 17, 2014, 9:56 AM
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They all think it is a bad idea. I say, "But you have proved for centuries that you cannot live with each other, why not separate into culturally compatible regions/countries?"
They all reply very similarly, that there would be even more strife if they were able to have a home base where they could return to safe haven after aggressive excursions across their border.
It's like 3 year olds in the back seat, they will only behave when confronted by a more powerful authority. Left to their own devices, someone always gets hurt.
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All-In [34108]
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Your Muslim friends should all get on Le Lunge.***
Jun 17, 2014, 11:06 AM
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All-In [34823]
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The nekkid girls would bother them.***
Jun 17, 2014, 1:00 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Oculus Spirit [97727]
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It was stupid to try and establish a democracy there
Jun 12, 2014, 11:50 AM
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It will never happen. In Afghanistan we had a guy to put in to power once we kicked out the Taliban. That worked better. But in Iraq, we somehow decided to wing it and expect people who don't have a culture compatible with democracy to suddenly embrace it? We have lost all perspective regarding the role Christianity plays in our nation, its founding, and its functioning. A famous political scientist once told me to never underestimate the role of Christianity in shaping America. Likewise, never underestimate the role of Islam in preventing democracy and/or establishing dictatorships, monarchies, or theocracies. Spend an hour in a fundamentalist Muslim nation and you will appreciate the role Christianity plays in America and also appreciate the role Islam plays in Muslim nations.
It is related.....
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110%er [9096]
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the wmds ended up in syria***
Jun 12, 2014, 12:04 PM
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All-In [34108]
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That story was DOA back in 2003.***
Jun 12, 2014, 12:23 PM
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Well, something like a WMD is being let loose on Iraq...
Jun 12, 2014, 12:43 PM
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and it seems to have come from Syria. It looks like the destabilization of Syria may end up ruining Iraq, as well.
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All-In [34108]
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Something like a WMD seems to have come from Syria?
Jun 12, 2014, 2:17 PM
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Cool story, bro!
But you clearly chose not to link that story to the topic of the post you replied to, and with good reason.
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Re: Something like a WMD seems to have come from Syria?
Jun 13, 2014, 7:08 AM
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Is there a link that proves its wrong?
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Re: Something like a WMD seems to have come from Syria?
Jun 13, 2014, 10:57 AM
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Is there a link to prove that the WMD's aren't actually being stored in a magical castle hovering about Tikrit?
Does that mean we should believe that the WMDs are there, too?
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Actually, no...
Jun 17, 2014, 9:27 AM
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Saying the story isn't true doesn't make it not true. The fact is, Saddam used wmd on his own people and we didn't find those either. I guess since we didn't find it, he never had them and the history we all know is a great big lie. AND, the nazis didn't kill millions of Jews either.
Bad logic.
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Re: Actually, no...
Jun 17, 2014, 12:26 PM
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The story has never had a shred of evidence, which is why no one stuck with it except loons on the internet. And maybe a Tea Party politician or two? Not sure.
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Heisman Winner [119713]
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^^^head up obummer's^^^
Jun 12, 2014, 12:49 PM
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####.....
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All-In [34108]
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^^^head up dubya's^^^
Jun 12, 2014, 1:21 PM
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####. How's the smell after all these years?
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Re: Just an overdue THANK YOU to Dubya for this Iraq
Jun 12, 2014, 1:53 PM
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look at the bright side, Halibuton's stock went through the roof.
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That's what it was all about from the start.... Halliburton
Jun 12, 2014, 4:13 PM
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wasn't alone. Now Afghanistan, that's more about the opium fields and nobody ever really addresses it. Pre-war production at 20-25% of global... current production over 90%.
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Re: That's what it was all about from the start.... Halliburton***
Jun 12, 2014, 11:04 PM
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All-In [30490]
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What's the President been doing?
Jun 12, 2014, 9:29 PM
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Taking a nap.
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CU Guru [1723]
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Come on now...that's just too much
Jun 13, 2014, 7:29 AM
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We all know he hasn't been napping. He's too busy playing golf and vacationing to take naps.
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Re: Come on now...that's just too much
Jun 13, 2014, 11:07 AM
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Barry really needs to step it up if he wants to come close to the number of vacation days taken by B-b-b-Bush.
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CU Guru [1723]
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If he is better than Bush, is that all you ask?
Jun 13, 2014, 1:09 PM
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How about demanding a standard and not being O.K with not quite as terrible as the last guy.
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All-In [34108]
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OK, what's a good standard # of vacation days for a prez?
Jun 13, 2014, 1:10 PM
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Can we look to historical figures as long as we ignore Dubya's numbers? Or should we hold Barry to a heretofore-unheard-of standard?
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CU Guru [1723]
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It's a general commentary on the justification that are used
Jun 13, 2014, 2:50 PM
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by both sides. Just because your guy isn't as ###### as the other guy doesn't mean he is doing it right. It may just mean he's the tallest midget.
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All-In [34108]
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So how many vacation days are OK?
Jun 13, 2014, 2:57 PM
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Is 4 weeks a year okay?
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All-In [30490]
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Bush didn't vacation.
Jun 17, 2014, 12:36 PM
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He just went home and worked in the yard.
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Re: Just an overdue THANK YOU to Dubya for this Iraq
Jun 13, 2014, 7:04 AM
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Is Hilary going to say again, " what difference does it make"
Byw, obama voted to send troops.... Like most politicians he believed Iraq had used wmds and chemical weapons.
This is what happens without troop support.
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All-In [34823]
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Barack Obama thought Iraq was a mistake and going to fail
Jun 13, 2014, 12:57 PM
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and his actions ensured that it would become so.
Argue about details all you want, but that is a much truer statement than "it was all about Halliburton."
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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So Americans need to die because people in Iraq can't...
Jun 15, 2014, 4:29 PM
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get along. Doesn't make much sense. Explain why Americans need to go and die in every foreign country that has conflict.
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All-In [34823]
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That's not what I said, so you're stupid. Or can't read.
Jun 16, 2014, 4:04 PM
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In which case, you're still stupid.
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I can... and it was more about Haliburton than you admit.***
Jun 16, 2014, 7:06 PM
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Yes, I know we will never know the awful truth about the
Jun 17, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Bilderburgs, yadda, yadda.
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Hall of Famer [24440]
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well, at least his actions in the coming days and weeks will
Jun 13, 2014, 4:12 PM
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tell us whether he's a sunni or a shiite. 
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