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Freshman [9]
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Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 7:46 PM
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All football players will be able to earn $50,000 per year through an NIL collective. I never thought there would be anything to make me dislike college football, but they sure are trying.
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Orange Phenom [14791]
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Same here. It's really, really getting close.***
Apr 22, 2022, 8:37 PM
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Game Changer [1963]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 8:43 PM
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I can’t figure out where $$$ is coming from. No reduction in salaries, etc. same student athlete benefits. At Clemson where are we getting another revenue stream?
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Freshman [9]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 8:49 PM
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The money is private. Has nothing to do with the schools. However, it does appear the schools may be working as an intermediary between the collectives and the “students”, or at least could be without penalty. If those even exist anymore.
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Clemson Icon [27757]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 9:25 PM
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The more wealthy alumni you have the more money the university has. It’s that simple.
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Orange Blooded [2518]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 11:03 PM
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Boosters
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All-In [25697]
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It’s the same money stream that’s always been there.
Apr 22, 2022, 11:14 PM
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It’s just out in the open now.
Some people are fooling themselves thinking this is new as they desperately try to cling to the fantasy that college sports was “amateur” in some way. It wasn’t.
Same for the ridiculous term “student athlete.” Look up who insisted that term be used and why. There’s no such thing.
Adapt or get left in the dust whining about the good ole days.
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All-In [25697]
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I’ll save some folks the trouble of searching.
Apr 22, 2022, 11:17 PM
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Here’s who came up with the ridiculous term “student athlete” and why. Read this and ask yourself how pure and genuine that term sounds now. Or…keep kidding yourself.
https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2017/10/13/walter-byers-ncaa
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Athletic Dir [1163]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 9:06 PM
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I don’t understand why people are investing so much money in football I stead of charities or they own businesses. Seems like big bets for watching some team you like to win with no real return on investment, aside from emotional highs. I guess the donors feel like they caused the team to win since it was their money.
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Ultimate Tiger [34681]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 9:32 PM
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They are trying to buy what we already have at Clemson.
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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It’s ridiculous.
Apr 22, 2022, 9:41 PM
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Talk about priorities being out of whack.
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Orange Immortal [68102]
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Re: It’s ridiculous.
Apr 22, 2022, 9:51 PM
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Buying players is a very hollow investment considering what is happening in the world right now.
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Varsity [104]
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Re: It’s ridiculous.
Apr 23, 2022, 8:32 AM
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But if you think about it, it’s about as much ROI as donations to IPTAY.
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Orange Blooded [2193]
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Re: It’s ridiculous.
Apr 23, 2022, 11:38 AM
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It’s been going on since before all of us were even born. Why are people surprised? Clemson has been on probation
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Orange Blooded [2992]
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I think the $'s will slow after couple years
Apr 23, 2022, 12:45 PM
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Investments with no return dont last long. It's easy to feed the beast until they recognize its just a dent in their pocket.
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Orange Beast [6104]
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The economy is pretty good right now
Apr 22, 2022, 9:44 PM
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Just wait till a good ole recession hits in about a year, something tells me college athletes may get a rude introduction into real world economics
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Heisman Winner [80137]
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You’re more optimistic than I.
Apr 22, 2022, 10:03 PM
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Thinking 6 months, min.
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Valley Legend [12772]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 22, 2022, 10:54 PM
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i like the idea of players getting paid, lots of work involved, could improve the game, incentive to show up, work hard, improve skills
could make a HS kid work harder, study more, graduate on time
could increase the number of excellent players available
more money for the family, generates tax revenue
i struggle to see the downside yet
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All-In [10856]
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Are you guys all jealous or something ?
Apr 22, 2022, 11:29 PM
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College football was already more corrupt than Wall Street. Don’t be naive about the “purity” of the sport.
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National Champion [7668]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 23, 2022, 7:07 AM
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Oklahoma has oil wells. Clemson does not.
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Orange Elite [5125]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 23, 2022, 8:49 AM
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I hope they all got their taxes filed…
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Orange Blooded [2193]
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Re: Oklahoma NIL
Apr 23, 2022, 11:41 AM
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What does Oklahoma have to do with this? They were cheating since the days of Bud Wilkerson, only now it’s legal. You guys act like it’s something new and even Clemson has done it.
Do you fellas even follow the sport of college football? Alabama has won dozens of national championships by paying recruits to come to that hole in the wall ######## named Tuscaloosa and now saban is crying about NIL. Such hypocrisy I have never seen
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Orange Phenom [14791]
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So if I follow you correctly, since it's been going on to
Apr 23, 2022, 1:20 PM
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some extent, i.e. cheating, you know what got SMU the death penalty, we should legalize it 100%?
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Orange Blooded [2193]
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Re: So if I follow you correctly, since it's been going on to
Apr 24, 2022, 9:33 AM
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That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying you act like it's something new and it's not. You clearly don't know what happened at SMU. I am not in anyway promoting that prostitution should be legal.
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National Champion [7875]
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I for one am glad we got in two more Natty's before NIL.
Apr 23, 2022, 12:01 PM
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College football is now more than ever the NFL junior league. Love my Tigers in all things. But my entusiasm has taken a hit with this paying players bs.
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Re: I for one am glad we got in two more Natty's before NIL.
Apr 23, 2022, 1:55 PM
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Not buying college football has legalized the same thing that has been going on for years. Maybe with some particular players for sure but no where near to what is going on now. Someone mentioned not seeing the downside. Stick around for a few years and let’s find out what happened to the good ole days and we can revisit this topic.
All players are basically free agents every year with no cap. What could possibly go wrong? On another note get used to a certain number of schools able to win the national championship because they happened to have the funds.
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Tiger Spirit [9984]
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Is the game changing though? Not trying to start anything.***
Apr 23, 2022, 2:37 PM
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Orange Immortal [65051]
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The petro wealth gives OU, OSU, Texas a huge advantage.
Apr 23, 2022, 2:51 PM
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That's one of the reasons even coaches of questionable character such as Kiffin are speaking out against NIL and the portal.
Schools with huge NIL advantages include:
OU, OSU, TX, TAMU - oil money
ND - Catholics
BYU - Mormons
Bama - because they've always only cared about football and have a relatively wealthy, relatively big alum base. Interestingly, Clemson's endowment is bigger than Bama's.
Florida
Miami
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
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Hall of Famer [8200]
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The rich will always get richer...football included.***
Apr 24, 2022, 12:16 PM
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