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IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 4:51 PM
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Hope Dabo learned a lesson
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:02 PM
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How do you know that?
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:30 PM
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It is his prediction.
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:06 PM
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I agree, as does most of the sports world, but this ain’t the ND team we played. Not even close.
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:21 PM
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Maybe one day the teeny bopper Cade fan club will stop posting silly stuff about him.
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:26 PM
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To be fair though, this was an awful situation to be put into. Starting the game and being put in the game standing in your own endzone down 14 on the road are two very different places mentally.
That being said making mistakes should be expected; however, I don’t understand why they didn’t put him back in after DJ threw a Pick 6 the following drive. He made one mistake and gets yanked while DJ made plenty and stayed in. At that point in the game, it was over. Let Cade get reps earlier.
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Because you have an obligation to Cade to bring him...
Dec 30, 2022, 5:34 PM
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along at his pace.
D1 football is hard. You do not stack bad habits, because the freshman's mindset is important and at risk. You try to stack "wins". This was not the first time Cade showed this horrible habit. He likely got away with it in Texas as CJ Spiller got away with kicking it outside in HS.
CJ didn't break that habit until a Junior and into his Senior year, culminating with that great performance against GT. CJ coming back and showing his willingness to bust it up between the 5 & 6 is a big why he vaulted up the boards.
Cade is a fantastic talent, the why the staff recruited him, but the revisionist history and mind-numbing boy love around here needs to be culled a bit.
The future is bright, let the staff do the job they promised Cade's parents.
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Re: Because you have an obligation to Cade to bring him...
Dec 30, 2022, 5:42 PM
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Yes, because he’ll really break bad habits when he’s only in practice.
I get what you’re saying, but the game was over. Just let him get real time snaps. Given Swinney’s comments today about Cade being further ahead than “previous greats,” I don’t find it unreasonable to assume we weren’t getting the full story through this season on Cade’s progress.
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Yes, that's exactly where you do it, on the range...
Dec 30, 2022, 5:51 PM
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not on the course.
That's 101.
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Re: Yes, that's exactly where you do it, on the range...
Dec 30, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Glad the range time finally clicked for him in a week. Wish that’d happen for me.
Again, I’m not a DJ hater nor am I a Cade fanboy, but it doesn’t make sense Cade goes from unprepared and not ready to ACCCG MVP and record breaker in one week. On top of Shipley and Henry both saying Cade looked like that all year in practice.
It’s reasonable to assume Cade makes mistakes. It’s unreasonable to assume Cade went from unready to MVP in a week.
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The range time was almost a year old as he enrolled early.***
Dec 30, 2022, 6:07 PM
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Re: The range time was almost a year old as he enrolled early.***
Dec 30, 2022, 6:18 PM
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Furthering my point… one week difference ain’t gonna have THAT much of a difference… 51 weeks on the range looks pretty close to 52 weeks on the range…
Sure, I’ll give you the ND game, but no way does Cade go unprepared vs SC to ACCCG MVP & completion record holder. That just doesn’t happen in a week.
We’re both in agreement that Cade is not perfect; but you have got to think Cade doesn’t make a 180 in one week.
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No, after a year of reinforcement, things eventually...
Dec 30, 2022, 6:29 PM
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take hold. That's called coaching, and practical patience.
You know physically why you recruit a young person, what you don't know and can't predict is how "quickly" they adjust to a far more challenging test.
There's a ladder, some climb it quicker than others. When they will reach or near the top, you don't know. As a coach, you just keep chopping wood and do the best you can by the each individual in congress with their personal journey.
There's no magic dust, just constant attention to detail.
180 is pure hyperbole and honestly, a tad "daft". Everyone knows why he was recruited and his perceived ceiling. It's OK for him to step down a rung, it would not be ok to make it 2 or 3, that's why you reinforce the positive, while avoid stacking the negative.
Every journey is different.
I appreciate the conversation. I'm sure all Tigers want to the same, what I'll never accept or partake in is the mob[not saying you're part of it] going after the staff with ~5% of the available information.
That's pathos, reason replaced by madness. You've seen it.
Go Tigers. I've got to run for a bit, take care.
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:45 PM
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Cade got no more PT vs. ND because of his poor decision; the pik was entirely due to that bad decision. The correct decision was to throw the ball away, accept that a punt would be coming. Had Cade shown that he could make a good decision when facing pressure, he would have demonstrated growth as a QB.
DJ’s pik-6 was due to a good decision by DJ that led to a terrible outcome. DJ’s pass was on a back shoulder (timing) route. Ball was thrown perfectly; Ngata did not run the route right and didn’t turn around in time.
Moving forward, I sure hope that the previous 3 weeks of extra practice have been put to good use by our WRs and by CK2 to better understand the routes and pass pro ‘blocking / line-of-sight’ lanes so that he can diagnose the defense and then make the correct decision as to (1) which WR to target -or- (2) throw the ball away.
Go Tigers!!!
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Actually he had AW early, 0's defender 10 yards away...
Dec 30, 2022, 6:06 PM
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on the hash.
It appears Cade loads up to go there early, but for some reason balks, instead falling into the poor decision?
Throwing away was Option 1B, no doubt.
+1.
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He managed all of 2 plays. It's the one that benched him.
Dec 30, 2022, 6:08 PM
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Cherry picking? That's patently stupid.
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Neither team is the same as what we saw on the field due to opt outs plus ND is much tougher at home. So your comparison is about your preferred mode so than any type of fact or reality
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:51 PM
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Welcome to reality
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 5:56 PM
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I agree. DJ made plenty of bad decisions/mistakes this year yet Dabo kept putting him back in but Cade made a bad decision WHILE he was already in a bad situation at ND but Dabo doesn’t put him back in. Makes no sense at all no matter how the cats on here try to spin it. I love Dabo but I’m not a cult member. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that he effed up regarding the quarterbacks this year. He just won’t admit it. I guess if I was him I wouldn’t either. At least not publicly ?
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 6:16 PM
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No doubt from anybody out there about that…..except Dabo huh!
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Re: IMO, Cade would have beaten both these teams
Dec 30, 2022, 6:40 PM
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SCar most definitely Cade would have led us to victory. ND I'm unsure since we were practically inept in almost every facet of that game. It would've been a massive hill for him to climb if he played the majority of that game.
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