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Lot o points [155977]
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So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
Jan 4, 2022, 8:39 PM
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“Winningest female contestant in Jeopardy history”.
In the words of Joe, c’mon, man……
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Re: So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
Jan 4, 2022, 8:46 PM
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Funny how women have fought for years to replace man in his environment and now, man, is fighting to replace women in theirs.
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Trans Woman Breaks Jeopardy Record, Proving Once And For All
Jan 4, 2022, 9:00 PM
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That Men Are Smarter Than Women. -- Babylon Bee
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Shhhhhh
Jan 4, 2022, 9:03 PM
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We've been waiting in the shadows for decades. Now we've proven we can swim better than them and now we are smarter. Give us another 20 years and we'll take away their right to vote.
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Re: Please be aware…
Jan 4, 2022, 11:08 PM
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Biology is complicated, sex is complicated, and there are disorders like androgen insensitivity and many many more that make the situation complicated. Trust me when I say, I get it.
But a 50 something year old man, let’s just be real here, a man with an Adam’s Apple and a 5 o’clock shadow wearing a blouse on jeopardy calling himself Amy isn’t complicated. It’s mental illness, and indulgence of... I don’t even know what twisted demented fever dreams lead one down that path. I’m thankful that whatever trauma causes it didn’t befall me.
Here’s the thing though. We can, and I do, treat everyone, trans, “cis”, whatever, with respect and dignity... but we don’t have to pretend it’s normal. I don’t have to pretend like gen z and their pansexual amorphous toaster oven “identity” is normal. That’s more a symptom of our culture’s frenetic self indulgence, but that’s a different subject entirely.
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Lot o points [155977]
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appreciate the reply.
Jan 4, 2022, 11:12 PM
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You saved me the trouble and did it far more eloquently than I could have.
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Legend [19919]
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I appreciate your well informed opinion. Nice use of the word frenetic.
Jan 5, 2022, 12:47 AM
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It kinda saddens me that a medical professional feels a member of the LGBTQ+ community is that way because she has a mental disorder. She may have been born that way instead of being a victim of trauma that you so fortunately avoided. Please remember that your “average” normal isn’t everyone’s normal.
Thanks again for your eloquent response.
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Broadly,
Jan 5, 2022, 2:21 AM
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I don’t think the psychiatric community takes an expression of a transgender identity as a marker of psychological distress. It’s not a “cry for help,” absent other observed behavioral issues.
I’m not trans—but I don’t think they are asking you to treat them as “normal.” I just think they are just asking for acceptance. To call that “indulgence” is kinda dismissive and super judgey—-which is absolutely your call—but I’m curious if you have ever spoken with a trans person about their life experience? It’s not exactly the easy path to choose in life.
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you're my bud, so I'm trying to be respectful,
Jan 4, 2022, 11:20 PM
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but I'm familiar with all of that, and yet you and I both know that the actual chromosomal imbalances/medical conditions make up a small, small percent of the current trans community, and you relying on an incredibly niche condition to normalize much more widespread abnormal behavior doesn't make me "ignorant" any more than it makes you compassionate.
This isn't religious based. It's not "they're gonna rape my kids!!!". It's not me being remotely uncomfortable around these folks (and like Chas15 said, I treat everyone with respect as well generally until they cast the first stone, regardless of their persona).
What it is, is me shaking my head at a group of people crying out for help and getting a pat on the head and being told they're victims in return. It's also a slap in the face to the women's movement and what it's worked so hard to achieve in the past century.
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Thank you.
Jan 5, 2022, 12:47 AM
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That was a very respectful response. I just want to encourage people to have some sensitivity when judging people who do not fit their “normal”.
Hell, Earth used to be flat and was the center of the universe.
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Re: Thank you.
Jan 5, 2022, 8:15 AM
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Do you actually think this person is a woman? Or do you think this person is a man? Or do you think this person is something else? Not trying to start a debate here. I'm just curious.
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Lot o points [155977]
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Also, apparently I should have P&R'd this, so my apologies
Jan 4, 2022, 11:23 PM
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in advance to the morning crowd.
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Re: Also, apparently I should have P&R'd this, so my apologies
Jan 4, 2022, 11:25 PM
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Are you kidding? I only posted my thoughts because this wasn’t in the P&R. I have a sterling “millennial academic libtard” reputation over there that I wouldn’t dare jeopardize.
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Wait till I tell them you poo-pooed the electric car
Jan 4, 2022, 11:27 PM
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in favor of an elitist petrol-powered CO2 spewer.
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I'm all for Amy to be whoever they want to be, and BTW Amy
Jan 5, 2022, 8:29 AM
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is kicking all kinds of ### on jeopardy. The games aren't even close.
I don't think Amy has any more of a 'mental illness' than any religious zealot or conspiracy theorist.
I just don't get claiming or being called the 'winningest female' thing.
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You can explain away mental illness all day long
Jan 5, 2022, 9:22 AM
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but it's still a mental illness.
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I'm no professional in that area, but I sleep with one, and
Jan 5, 2022, 9:26 AM
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I believe the DSM does not treat being transgender as a mental illness.
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But gender dysphoria is***
Jan 5, 2022, 10:15 AM
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Again, this aint my field of expertise, but I do believe
Jan 5, 2022, 10:34 AM
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listing it in the DSM-5 doesn't mean it is a Mental Illness, but it is a condition brought on by feeling you are one gender while your physical attributes show a different gender.
I don't pretend to completely understand this OR study this nearly enough to get in a good argument though. In my eyes, those people aren't sick and don't need treatment.
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30% of Gen Zers self identify as bi, gay or trans
Jan 5, 2022, 9:46 AM
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basic math tells you it's a fad and the underlining cases of most of these are mental issues. The other thing is teachers are grooming these kids in school, there is no other way to put it.
Glad you're OK with kids being groomed cmfreeman®
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It's actually about 15 percent.***
Jan 5, 2022, 9:51 AM
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Different polling, then.
Jan 5, 2022, 10:07 AM
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WaPo had a similar one that said 15 percent. I'm assuming grooming comment was a joke?
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Nope
Jan 5, 2022, 10:08 AM
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I'll get #### for this, but I have a Tiktok account (cue the ####, I can take it) and Gen Z teachers are teaching this stuff to preschoolers
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LOL, no.
Jan 5, 2022, 10:16 AM
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Teachers ain't "grooming" any kids to become LGBT. Sorry, man. I mean, I guess we can debate it in P&R but big LOL, no.
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That ain't grooming anything
Jan 5, 2022, 10:23 AM
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That's a person telling the kid that they ain't a freak. It's not trying coax or convince kids into being something they're not.
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Did you watch the first video ?
Jan 5, 2022, 10:24 AM
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fully transparency I just added it
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One preschool teacher...your evidence is very lacking
Jan 5, 2022, 10:27 AM
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and the tik toks are probably greatly exaggerated from what actually takes place in the classroom. Most preschool classes have multiple teachers in there as well, so unless there is collusion amongst multiple LGBT+ preschool teachers working toward brainwashing our 4 year olds into sucking each other off, I assume this is all bullsh>it.
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So, this is completely OK ?
Jan 5, 2022, 10:29 AM
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cool
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Let's JUMP
Jan 5, 2022, 10:34 AM
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to Conclusions
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That's interesting, I read an article that placed
Jan 5, 2022, 10:16 AM
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the blame for the current environment on Glee.
I've never watched it, so no clue
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My wife watched it when it was current.
Jan 5, 2022, 10:19 AM
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I actually do remember jokingly thinking it was a 30 minute LGBTQ infomercial every week. The straight CIS kids were 20% of the high school population and were generally mouth breathing uncultured Neanderthals.
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Here's what TV shows don't do
Jan 5, 2022, 10:20 AM
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-They don't cause violence. -They don't cause teen pregnancies. -They don't cause kids to be LGBT. -They basically don't cause people to do anything they didn't already want to do.
The percentages of LGBT people likely haven't changed; it's just they're more open about coming out about it.
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30% of the population SHOULD be LGBT+ ?
Jan 5, 2022, 10:25 AM
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we won't have a society in a hundred years then
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Why? Cause breeding?
Jan 5, 2022, 10:28 AM
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I don't know if you've checked the numbers lately, but we ain't having a problem in that department. Maybe a little too good at it.
Not really a bad thing if 30 percent of our population stops popping out crotch goblins.
My point is that these are probably not new demographics in population breakdown. It's just new in how many people are willing to come forward and admit it. Being LGBT isn't really a new concept in humanity.
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I know I'm not the first to point this out...
Jan 5, 2022, 10:18 AM
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But in that show, it just seems accepted that their teacher doesn't have any friends outside of his work and only hangs out with the kids and no one raises an issue about it.
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Yeah, he was a little close with all his students.***
Jan 5, 2022, 10:20 AM
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finding your victim/discrimination niche is the new pathway
Jan 5, 2022, 10:13 AM
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to success in this modern world. Gets you job promotions, media publicity, and in many instances, straight cash money from threatened lawsuits.
If you can't pull off the racist thing due to your selfish bigoted parents marrying purebreed, why not go the gender victimization route? It's wide open to pretend to be anything you want, and nobody can doubt or question you without being immediately career-ruined.
Plus, who doesn't want the option to go in the woman's bathroom? MUCH cleaner and better smelling in there. They put rose petals by the sink.
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What womens bathrooms have you been in?
Jan 5, 2022, 4:03 PM
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Women are complete slobs.
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I'm ok with this
Jan 5, 2022, 7:17 AM
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No clear advantage for this person
Unlike sports
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Ummmm he’s a dude...
Jan 5, 2022, 7:28 AM
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now you done did it***
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I'm fine with this person dressing however they feel and
Jan 5, 2022, 8:26 AM
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playing Jeopardy. I'm impressed by their performance on the game and their impressive knowledge base.
I'm not impressed with this person now being deemed the "highest winning female". That's just the Jeopardy PR team running their finger up their cracks and giving the previous holder of that record a big dirty Hitler.
Why can't there be a middle ground where a man can dress as a women if that's their thing, and we as a society let them go about their days in peace, but we still (quite logically) legally classify them as a man (or vice versa). Somehow we've crossed into crazy-ville by suggesting that this now demeans this person to do so. Again we AREN'T talking about the super-rare chromosomal-from-birth crossed-over individuals. We are talking about people whose claim to be the opposite sex stems from nothing more than their desire to be that way.
Obviously I'm not faced with this proclivity, so perhaps I haven't reached full empathy, but I do know that if I decided to start shopping at Lane Bryant tomorrow (I'm a big guy) and going throughout my day dressed as a woman, I wouldn't feel that it was society's obligation to recognize me as anything other than a man masquerading as a woman.
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Re: I'm fine with this person dressing however they feel and
Jan 5, 2022, 8:29 AM
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Why is Jeopardy even making this distinction?
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That's probably an even better question.***
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As a man, you have to tip your hat to the women for making
Jan 5, 2022, 8:59 AM
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a great pickup here via the portal.
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pigs?***
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You and the good Dr hit the nail on the head.
Jan 5, 2022, 9:09 AM
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Compassion and understanding for the small percentage that were born that way or whatever? You'll find it here.
Respect for all of them, no matter how they got to where they are? You'll find it here.
Likely some didn't have a choice in the matter? SURE. Likely many are simply making a choice? YEP.
For those in the larger majority that get there later in life likely due to their mentals, I find it weird.
We as a society have to find more empathy for this stuff and others, but I'm not so sure the way there is to hype it all up and parade it around all the time.
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I look at it like this...
Jan 5, 2022, 9:35 AM
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I have good friends that are University of South Carolina graduates and/or fans. If I can work around THAT, then I can certainly work around most anything else when it comes to dealing with humanity.
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So...ok with both #### fans and non-fans of ####?***
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I simplified the entire equation long ago:
Jan 5, 2022, 9:46 AM
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You're either with me, or you're against me.
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Being very familiar with your employer
Jan 5, 2022, 9:44 AM
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I’m guessing you won’t be seeing Amy in the break room any time soon.
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LOLUTZ.
Jan 5, 2022, 9:50 AM
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They're actually slowly progressing to meet the demands of hiring in this modern age, believe it or not. I mean, you no longer have to have a copy of the Bible on your person at all times while on company property now.
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RH TIG WORKS AT WESTSIDE HIGH SCHOOL***
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I don't remember Westside High School ever being one of the
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fake names we used as a front for the sweatshop using kids to sew up Big Baller brand athletic shoes, but LaVar was always in charge of that part so maybe I just missed that one.
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Speaking of Lavar, you ever think
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Big Dave has some Lavar in him? Asking figuratively of course.
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I know a lot of folks got all excited about having Big Dave
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around the program, minor celebrity that he was. Personally, I'm not too keen on any parent rising to star status around the Clemson football program. Never thought that was a healthy thing, and I'm almost certain that has been at least a small part of the mental aspect of DJs play this year. Of course, I could be wrong, but the sun could also rise in the west tomorrow morning.
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Re: So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
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Most of the trans folks I dealt with back in the day, I think we’re quite sincere. I do think the wiring in their brains was off.
They had to cross dress for a couple of years and have 18 months of psychological evaluations along with hormone therapy before we treated a complex malfunction with a knife.
I’m not sure history will judge that to be proper treatment using surgery to treat a non surgical problem.
Hopefully someone smarter will develop a better solution.
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Re: So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
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That’s my understanding as well, that people have to have diagnosed gender dysphoria and cross dress for some period of time before they can get hormones prescribed
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Re: So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
Jan 5, 2022, 9:51 AM
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I don't have the stats, so I may be wrong. It seems like there are more men to women than women to men. Do you think that is true, or just my perception? If so, why do you think that is the case?
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Re: So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
Jan 5, 2022, 10:51 AM
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At the present, the numbers are roughly equal, although in the past there were definitely more male to female trans individuals. I suspect society becoming more tolerant towards trans individuals has led to things being close to 50/50 now.
Gender dysmorphia can be acknowledged, but it is dishonest to act as if there are no differences in the 2 sexes or to act as if one's sex is fluid. The perception of one's sex may be fluid, but it is not.
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As you all know I can get bent out of shape about
Jan 5, 2022, 11:03 AM
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a lot of things. Most are dumb. But I have learned that the Trans and Gay situation is something that I just dont want to argue about. I will let someone else do that on their time. I just really dont care we are all humans and need to respect each other. Most respect is out the window with these conversations.
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oddly enough, you chose a pretty respectful conversation to
Jan 5, 2022, 3:38 PM
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announce this in.
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Re: So the trans person on Jeopardy is now being hailed as the
Jan 5, 2022, 4:26 PM
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And probably a brave hero who should inspire us for their bravery s how it was framed. I was just thinking about Bruce. On the other hand, I am just being mean right there. I did watch an ESPN 30 for 30 on Jenner and it made me respect him/her more. That said,it still feels like we give these peeps undue credit for nothing. Celtic was cooler and he was just some dude..
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