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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 3:43 PM
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made it to their conference championship game.
#unbelievable
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Legend [6832]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 3:47 PM
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Probably Clemson.
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Orange Elite [5161]
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But since 99% of TNetters think with 3% of their brains
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Dec 3, 2024, 3:48 PM
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100% of the time*, this poast will with 75% certainty ruffle 100% of the 99%'s feathers.
(*credit Todd Snider)
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: But since 99% of TNetters think with 3% of their brains
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Dec 3, 2024, 7:59 PM
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Lol....so true 😁👍
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 3:49 PM
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I am pretty sure Navy is playing Texas in the SEC championship game, fool.
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Paw Master [17590]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:02 PM
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That part. Air Force too. SMH.
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Campus Hero [14074]
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Lost their rivalry game to a team that did***
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Dec 3, 2024, 4:15 PM
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Starter [258]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
Dec 3, 2024, 4:21 PM
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Relative to 7.6% of college football teams that could use the portal and did in 2024 that made it to their conference championship game.
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Paw Master [17590]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 4:56 PM
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That’s bogus when 4/134 were the only ones that didn’t. That’s means anyone not a service academy or Clemson made their conference championship.
Here’s a bigger stat: 100% of the playoff teams since 2020 have used the portal. In fact, upwards of 15+% of their starters came from the portal. Those with 0%, no CFP or championships. #believable
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Starter [258]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
Dec 3, 2024, 5:09 PM
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I’m not sure what is bogus. 131 of 134 FBS schools could use the portal (minus service academies). 130 of those 131 did use the portal in 2024. 10 of those 130 are playing for a conference championship this weekend equating to approximately 7.6%.
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Varsity [104]
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It's an Appeal to Outliers
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:22 PM
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Logical fallacies are 100% bogus.
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Starter [258]
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Re: It's an Appeal to Outliers
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:37 PM
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Logic requires an argument using premises to justify a conclusion. My statement only provides factual univariate statistics.
Now if I said “The transfer portal is useless. Only 7.6% of FBS schools that could and did use it made their conference championship games”, then you can claim it as a fallacy.
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Varsity [104]
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Bogus.
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:12 PM
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You're trying to claim a univariate statistic in a multivariate situation.
That's the poster boy for "outlier".
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Starter [258]
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Re: Bogus.
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:43 PM
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Sure, it is multivariate in the sense that conditioned on the 130 teams that did use the portal and could out of 134 teams, only 10 made their conference championships. Claiming it as bogus is odd since it is a statistic no different than saying that Clemson’s home winning percentage this year is 71.4%.
As for being an outlier, you need a distribution. What distribution are you assuming?
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Varsity [104]
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Illogic includes taking a single data point
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:47 PM
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Then claiming that 100% of it is valid in a multivariate setting. That's EXACTLY what the original thread starter did.
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Re: Illogic includes taking a single data point
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Dec 3, 2024, 7:05 PM
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Apologies if I am slow, but I’m trying to understand what you are saying. To my knowledge, for logic to exist, you must make a claim leading to a conclusion. This is just a conditioned statistic. While the original post from FM is biased given the sample size of schools that met the conditions is 1, it is only a funny statistic that made no claims for a conclusion based on the statistic.
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I dont think you know the definition of logical fallacy
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:39 PM
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“A logical fallacy is an error in reasoning that uses irrelevant points or invalid arguments without evidence to support them”
Both relevant points and valid arguments were used.
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TigerNet Champion [120989]
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I'll use that in a sentence
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:09 PM
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cutigerbob® was passed out on the couch drunk, again, so Francis Marion®, was presented a logical phallicy he could exploit.
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Varsity [104]
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Appeal to Outliers are not valid.
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:14 PM
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Ergo, neither is your argument.
Clemson is the only school that can use the TP that doesn't. That's a single data point. It's the very definition of (outlier).
In math terms, it only has a confidence interval of 0.08. That's nowhere close to valid.
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Game Changer [1795]
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Varsity [104]
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Nope. You don't get to decide.
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:42 PM
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Your arrogance and control freakish was is unwarranted.
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
Dec 3, 2024, 4:55 PM
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Not unbelievable at all. It not all about kids that couldn't cut it where they were, it is about kids that cut it where they are.
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Paw Master [17590]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:01 PM
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Where’s Air Force? Not in. Where’s Navy? Not in. That’s 50% of the non portal using teams. Clemson was gifted a spot. Can I use your logic to pay bills? Pay 50% and claim 100? Sounds like Biden math.
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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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Service academies cant use the portal
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:11 PM
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the same way all of the other schools can. Feel free to throw them in if you’d like to create content.
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Varsity [104]
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Re: Service academies cant use the portal
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:45 PM
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Which is why Clemson is a single data point, 1/131. Again, that is the poster boy for Appeal to Outliers. 100% of one data point is still an outlier, as is anything claimed that is based on it.
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So Clemson cant be used as evidence for either side of the Portal discussion?***
Dec 3, 2024, 7:59 PM
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Orange Elite [5161]
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Varsity [104]
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100% of that claim is an Appeal To Outliers
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Dec 3, 2024, 5:21 PM
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Logical fallacy.
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:25 PM
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You stat guys are giving me a headache. When I retired, I thought I had left all that Lean Six Sigma stuff behind for good.
Now my headache is back…
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Varsity [104]
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It's a side benefit of the
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Dec 3, 2024, 6:49 PM
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Grad school statistics courses that I took at a fine university in the SC Upstate. 😁😁
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Ring of Honor [23710]
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Size matters.
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Dec 3, 2024, 7:26 PM
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And your sample size is really really small. I wonder what else that correlates to in the size department.
I love it when non-math people try to math. It's like watching the Special Mathematic Olympics. 
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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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I dont know
Dec 3, 2024, 7:58 PM
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what?
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Rival Killer [2867]
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Re: 100% of college football teams that could use the portal but didnt in 2024
Dec 3, 2024, 8:08 PM
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Seriously this is what’s on your mind after us not ever beating Shane Beamer at DV? Don’t get me wrong, I’m thrilled we get a shot at the pitiful ACC, but the portal is hurting us and portal players helped the stupid coots beat us. And poor kids seeing our multimillionaire coach taking his stand against the portal and $ for them is hurting our recruiting. And that’s what many of them see. I know first hand.
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