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Topic: If our free market Health Care system is so awesome
Replies: 32   Last Post: May 4, 2021, 8:31 PM by: CUintulsa®
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If our free market Health Care system is so awesome


Posted: May 4, 2021, 12:49 PM
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how come other developed nations don't copy it? I always hear from Americans, that Canadians have a terrible health care system and have to wait months for simple procedures. If this were the case, why don't they move to a free market system where the profit motive heals people?

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 12:51 PM
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We do have an awesome system, easily the best in the world... for specialists, complicated cases, new and technical things, and the cutting edge of literally every field.

We don’t have good access to care or primary care coverage, and costs are really complicated. That’s it.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:01 PM
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then why don't they switch to our model?

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Why not have UHC for normal procedures

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:05 PM
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check ups wellness, kids, OB/GYN etc. and insurance be for the crazy stuff like cancer etc

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:08 PM
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Because they can’t afford it

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:08 PM
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Candian median household income is greater than ours, until you get into the 60% percentile range, then we pass them. So you are basically saying 60% of this country cannot afford its own healthcare system, which is not far off.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:44 PM
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I’m sorry, I’m trying to distill an enormously complicated topic to message board one liners.

I don’t mean that as individuals they can’t afford it, though your point about most Americans not being able to afford care is well taken, probably higher than 60%. Look at what our country spends as a % of GDP on healthcare. It’s miles above the closest country. Most countries either cannot or will not spend that much as a whole on healthcare.

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As a general statement, I suspect it would be very...

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:07 PM
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difficult to privatize a government run healthcare system. Where would one even start?

I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say our healthcare system is "awesome" or that insurance providers are awesome. I think there are a lot of aspects of our system that are better and there are some that need a lot of work. I don't think the only fix is to go to a single-payer system.

Also, the US is pretty unique when compared to Canada and other European countries. The shear size, differences in regional cultures, wide-range of socio-economic classes, and general federal system of government make it very difficult to compare the US to other countries.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:13 PM
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People don’t understand why we can’t be more like Norway when it has the population of SC and is 83% ethnic Norwegian.

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We have the most tech sector ingenuity in the world too.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:16 PM
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Why doesn't Canada copy that?

Because they can't.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:09 PM
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OF course, they can, you are being silly.

All they have to do is say, "Yo, Humana, we want you to take 20% off the top and come in and manage our healthcare system", Humana would be like, "Heck yeah, we'll profit off your sick people!!!"

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:47 PM
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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:18 PM
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That is a great analogy for why we can't get off our free market system. too many people getting rich off of it.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:56 PM
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I think we will soon find out if we like socialized medicine better. We’re moving that way. I know a millionaire who just went on Obamacare. Is that good or bad? I don’t know but I guess we will see.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:47 PM
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“Obamacare” isn’t a National plan, they are plans offered by usually private insurers that conform to particular standards of cost and coverage.

I am vehemently anti-single payer, as it would screw up my entire career, but ACA isn’t socialized medicine, not by a long shot.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:55 PM
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Charleston tiger 15 it sounds like you have some knowledge about insurance. Help me understand something. I’m just not understanding how Obamacare is not welfare insurance. The government is paying a stipend right? That means the govt is paying your way? I don’t understand how a millionaire can get a govt stipend for his insurance and not call it welfare. My questions are sincere. Not remotely trying to debate.

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The millionaire doesn't get a stipend...


Posted: May 4, 2021, 3:40 PM
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the stipend phases out with income. I you know a millionaire with Obamacare, they are choosing that due to some other issue of insurability. Just wait until he's old enough to go on Medicare.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 3:56 PM
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Nope has nothing to do with insurability. His “salary” from his corporation is within the Obamacare limits. His real net worth inside the company is millions.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 1:57 PM
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Because while you lefties will never get this, our country is about personal responsibility and freedom to choose. My healthcare works great for me. We use my wife’s plan. If we didn’t have that, we’d use the plan my company offers If we didn’t have that, we’d buy a private plan. If I needed emergency care, I’m guaranteed by law to get it anywhere at any time.

The US is listed as 17th in deaths per million from COVID, despite being 9th in cases per million. Ahead of us in deaths per million are the UK, Italy, Belgium, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Brazil, Peru, Poland, Bosnia, Hungary and others.

I’d say we’ve done pretty well...not to mention the fact that we’re leading the way out of this thing with vaccines and vaccination. We are innovators. Our system creates the best technology and procedures along with the best and brightest healthcare workers. Yes, many of them are foreigners who come to work here. People also do in fact come here to have serious procedures done. They stay in their country for the other free stuff.

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In what other system can you walk into an ER


Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:45 PM
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Not even being a citizen of the country, get treated, and walk out without paying anything?

Top that Canada

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Um... literally every other country and the kicker..

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:47 PM
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citizens do that in those other countries too.

Crazy I know

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 2:49 PM
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I hope this is satirical

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 3:06 PM
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You can do that anywhere.


A better question would be, where would you rather be if you have a serious health crises?

As for me, I had a major stroke at the age of 46, (absolutely no health issues beforehand, worked out daily, was an ideal weight, etc) and am glad I had the stroke in the U.S. just my personal preference.


And looking at rankings, the U.S. of A has more than its fair share of hospitals ranked in the top 100 worldwide. We often overlook that part when wanting to be more like Canada or some other country.

Also, I'd be willing to bet most people would rather have a serious health crises here versus most other nations with socialized Healthcare (well, if they're being honest)

Just my opinion.

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Most countries in Europe do, as does Canada


Posted: May 4, 2021, 3:13 PM
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a foreigner can break his/her leg skiing the Alps in France and you will get airlifted to a hospital, put into a cast, and it would barely cost you anything, save the bottle of pain killers.

The bottom line is they put the health of their people above profits. Profiting off sickness and disease is morally wrong in their culture.

It should be in ours too, but we have our priorities all out of whack in this country. Most people can't seem to get around the, "well that is just the way it is", argument, and not expect better.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 3:35 PM
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Only a fifth of US hospitals are for profit

https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals


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the stupid


Posted: May 4, 2021, 5:16 PM
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it burns.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 5:48 PM
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I know but there’s still hope for you.

Tbalm: “Healthcare shouldn’t be about profit.”

Me: “80% of the US hospitals aren’t for profit.”

Tbalm: “I don’t really have a logical reply so I’ll just try to be funny even though I’m only occasionally funny...and only on the football board.”

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 3:54 PM
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If Canada's FREE healthcare is better, why don't all of the illegals simply pass through the U.S. on their way to Canada?

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True. You can’t put a price on quality healthcare


Posted: May 4, 2021, 4:11 PM
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Does Canada not have any vegetables to harvest?

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 4:59 PM
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poor health is earned

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 5:31 PM
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I think we should get rid of Obamacare and go with the "terrific" plan that Trump said he was going to replace it with. Can someone give me a link to Trump's replacement plan.

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 6:08 PM
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axe mccain

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Who told you we have a free market h/c system? No one in his

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Posted: May 4, 2021, 8:31 PM
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right mind thinks that.

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