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Lot of DW4 hate going around right now. Trade rumors on fire
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Lot of DW4 hate going around right now. Trade rumors on fire


Aug 28, 2021, 6:43 PM

Deshaun to the dolphins in a matter of days could happen. Seems like the public has already found him guilty of all accusations and wish he never plays another down in NFL. Will be a PR nightmare for Miami if they make this trade. But would probably make the playoffs this year behind DW4.

Whadda U do????????

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I jumped the gun on that Denver


Aug 28, 2021, 6:47 PM

Broncos hat I bought

I hope he gets to play for a team with at least an average OL

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I think a lot of people think the lawsuit is a $$ grab


Aug 28, 2021, 6:47 PM

then there is the political push to be mean



It really doesn't look like a serious lawsuit


While the subject of the behavior and actions are deplorable if you are pedophile or rapist.



The optics are distorted ....

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Re: I think a lot of people think the lawsuit is a $$ grab


Aug 28, 2021, 8:38 PM

Anyone with a functional brain should able to identify the lawsuit as cash grab; only the extremely niave would think otherwise-

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If DW signs anywhere this year, that's a powerful indication


Aug 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

that he's innocent, and that private conversations between player, lawyers, and team managment have revealed what cannot be revealed to the general public or discussed in the media. No team would touch him if there was a chance he was a serial rapist, not after all of this publicity. If he doesn't play, however, it doesn't mean he's guilty, it could very well just mean everything is still in limbo, and teams are waiting for legal, public resolution one way or the other. If I'm DW, I do exactly what my lawyers tell me to do, and that's probably "keep your mouth shut".

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Innocent of what? He was absolutely paying for handjobs from


Aug 29, 2021, 2:57 PM

internet skeezers...I don't think he sexually assaulted anyone, but he definitely exposed himself and paid for sexual gratification from dozens of women and if he was smart, he would have just paid them all 100k and been done with it

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"Innocent of what?"


Aug 29, 2021, 5:39 PM

Sexual assault and sexual harassment, you know, the things he's been accused of. If you see my post below, or numerous posts of mine over the last few months on this issue, you'll see that it's my opinion that these women are prostitutes fronting as massage therapists trying to extort money out of DW. I could be wrong, but surely everybody accepts that as a given by this point. Right or wrong, I suspect he just did what a lot of other young professional athletes are doing.

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Re: "Innocent of what?"


Sep 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

He has not been charged with any crimes. In a civil case, there is not a verdict of "guilty" or "innocent" only that the jury finds in favor of the defendant/plaintiff. In a criminal case, a unanimous jury must find "beyond a reasonable doubt". In a civil case, the jury finds based on a preponderance of the evidence and the jury does not have to be unanimous. Unless criminal charges are filed - depending on what the Houston Police Department finds - he will never be "guilty" or "innocent" from the current legal actions.

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By that standard buying a woman dinner at


Sep 23, 2021, 8:29 PM [ in reply to Innocent of what? He was absolutely paying for handjobs from ]

Applebee’s with an Oreo shake would be solicitation, but if ya play with poo you end up stanky

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Re: Lot of DW4 hate going around right now. Trade rumors on fire


Aug 28, 2021, 7:43 PM

Unless the Texans are willing to reduce their asking price I don’t think that any trade will occur.

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I am still hoping my Saints sign him


Aug 28, 2021, 7:58 PM

I am going to believe that this is a money grab, until we know better. And DW4 is the ideal replacement for DB9. Jameis Winston is likely guilty of worse stuff than that and a turnover machine. Who Dat!

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GoTiguhs!!


I have no idea, but I speculate most likely scenario is ...


Aug 28, 2021, 8:15 PM

all of these women are prostitues fronting as "massage therapists" (isn't that almost a given?). DW is a single man taking advantage of his situation, probably referred to these women by teammates and other NFL players doing the same. The women, some of whom know each other, start talking, realize DW is a mutual client, and concoct this scheme, hire a sleazy lawyer, and here we are. I just don't buy into DW being a serial rapist, but if he is, he should pay accordingly.

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What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Aug 28, 2021, 8:26 PM

Dozens of women have accused him of sexual misconduct. You can’t blame people for believing that at least some of those women are telling the truth.

Given that, the guy obviously has some issues he needs to sort out and the public backlash is understandable.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Aug 28, 2021, 8:37 PM

One fact everyone should remember is that DW4 has declined to settle this quietly out of court. He insists he wants this to go to trial to prove himself innocent.
Why would he do this if he was guilty. He could walk away from this for 5-10 million and never look back.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Aug 29, 2021, 2:39 PM

so did charles manson. that didn't make him not guilty. when two dozen women accuse you of something and the best response is "well, they're all prostitutes trying to make money," that says more about you and your relationship to women than it does anything else.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Sep 23, 2021, 12:45 PM

I don't think you understand how things work for this current generation. Those Instagram "massage" therapist are call girls. If you see someone say they are an Instagram model....90% of the time they are selling themselves.

That's why it seems he did it over and over again because he was basically just paying for sex. But in this Me Too... I am a victim... era they saw a chance to make some money.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Sep 23, 2021, 5:31 PM [ in reply to Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun? ]

Bill Cosby thought his innocence would save him too. I don't know how these young people with huge amounts of money can avoid the scumbags coming out of the woodwork to cash in on them. That whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing has gone out the window in the modern media's mob-justice system. I admire DW4 for defending himself, but I am not sure it is the right course of action.

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True Believer "me too" movement?


Aug 28, 2021, 8:52 PM [ in reply to What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun? ]

Cause women never lie, are never spiteful, and none are to some extent crazy-

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Of course women lie.


Aug 29, 2021, 3:11 PM

Do you honestly believe that this many women are lying?

Men lie too. Why couldn’t Deshaun be lying?

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Your naivete knows no bounds****


Sep 23, 2021, 5:20 AM



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So you think that dozens of women have conspired to frame


Sep 23, 2021, 5:55 PM

an unfortunate man who was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time, on dozens of different occasions?

And the only thing he is guilty of is being a successful pro football player who likes massages and trusted these women to give him a massage?

And I’m the naive one? LOL!

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Dozens of women congregated by ONE SLEAZE-BALL LAWYER.***


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If it was one of your precious basketball players


Aug 28, 2021, 8:57 PM [ in reply to What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun? ]

you’d have a different opinion.

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There's something in these hills.


No, I wouldn’t.


Aug 29, 2021, 3:10 PM

If you think all of these women are lying, and have orchestrated a massive scheme to defraud him when he’s innocent, I don’t know what to tell you other than the fact that your homerism is clouding your judgment.

We all want him to be innocent, but that seems highly unlikely.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Aug 28, 2021, 9:08 PM [ in reply to What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun? ]

Just google Deshaun Watson and start reading the social media tweets. There’s not a single one in support for him. Everything has been hope he never plays again type stuff. I never insinuated the public reaction was a shock. I just posted an unbiased update of the Deshaun Watson situation.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Aug 29, 2021, 1:01 PM

Do you think any of the people tweeting watch or care about football?

I'm guessing it's just "me too" piling on from the usual suspects.

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Re: What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun?


Aug 29, 2021, 2:53 PM [ in reply to What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun? ]

If DeShaun turns out to be completely innocent what issues does he have?

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I hope he is innocent.


Aug 29, 2021, 3:14 PM

But I think that’s highly unlikely based on what we know so far.

At minimum, he’s admitted to having consensual sex with women when they are in a vulnerable position in their place of employment. He seems to have scheduled massages with the intention of doing so. Don’t you think that says that he has some issues to sort out?

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Re: I hope he is innocent.


Aug 29, 2021, 6:09 PM

All depends on the true intent of the first contact. If she was a “Craigslist” type masseuse, then the dirty was expected before the first contact was made. I know at least one of the woman flew to meet Deshaun. I’m sorry but you don’t pay a masseuse off Craigslist or whatever to fly to you without the dirty being involved.

I honestly believe the intentions were known upfront. Some of the claims are bad but some go with the business. One complained that he got naked in the room for the message. Well I guess I’m guilty as well because when I went on my honey moon my wife and I got a couples massage and it was nothing covering us on the table. Not even a towel.

So to answer your question yes I believe it is possible for Deshaun to truly be innocent.

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Re: I hope he is innocent.


Aug 29, 2021, 6:09 PM [ in reply to I hope he is innocent. ]

All depends on the true intent of the first contact. If she was a “Craigslist” type masseuse, then the dirty was expected before the first contact was made. I know at least one of the woman flew to meet Deshaun. I’m sorry but you don’t pay a masseuse off Craigslist or whatever to fly to you without the dirty being involved.

I honestly believe the intentions were known upfront. Some of the claims are bad but some go with the business. One complained that he got naked in the room for the message. Well I guess I’m guilty as well because when I went on my honey moon my wife and I got a couples massage and it was nothing covering us on the table. Not even a towel.

So to answer your question yes I believe it is possible for Deshaun to truly be innocent.

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facts...If you relate the facts of the case, you are hatin'***


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It is a sticky situation***


Sep 24, 2021, 8:15 AM [ in reply to What are some examples of this “hate” for Deshaun? ]



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he built this himself ..i cant say


Aug 28, 2021, 8:55 PM

if the claims are true or not..but he was clearly paying massage therapists for extra curricula stuff at the very least...a guy of his stature loaded with cash not a bad looking dude..im just dumb founded as to why he just didnt hook up with someone to do it for free..paying people to do it is what opened the can of worms

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Re: he built this himself ..i cant say


Aug 29, 2021, 6:11 PM

Probably because if anything he asked for what they say he did, it’s hard to find a woman at the club that is willing to go to those measures.

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Re: Lot of DW4 hate going around right now. Trade rumors on fire


Aug 29, 2021, 1:02 PM

We should seize the property from the bourgeoisie

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innocent until proven guilty imo.***


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