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I think Thomas Jefferson may have said it best when he said...
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"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, or in philosophy as cause for withdrawing from a friend."
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Re: I think Thomas Jefferson may have said it best when he said...
Sep 12, 2025, 12:23 PM
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I guess it depends on the severity of the situation. Hitler comes to mind.
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You probably should stop being friends with the
Sep 12, 2025, 12:24 PM
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white supremacists and Nazis.
The country would be much better off.
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Mods, pls remove the coot trash***
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:33 PM
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Clemson Sports Icon [52200]
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Soooo...
Sep 12, 2025, 12:35 PM
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Do you think they read this board all the time and listen to you?
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This is pretty funny.
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:37 PM
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In a thread about civil political discourse, you want to ban someone for saying don't be friends with nazis.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52200]
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The point usually flies over bengal's head...
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:41 PM
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Faster than the over easy eggs get snatched up by Koreans on a cruise.
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Re: The point usually flies over bengal's head...
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Sep 12, 2025, 1:20 PM
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I’m on bengaline side with this one, what 09 posted certainly wasn’t civil.
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So ban him? C'mon
Sep 12, 2025, 1:21 PM
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09 is an absolute clown but not sure he's done anything ban worthy.
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Nope, he dissented with the OP, which is automatic
Sep 12, 2025, 1:23 PM
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grounds for removal!!!
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Re: Nope, he dissented with the OP, which is automatic
Sep 12, 2025, 1:25 PM
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“In a thread about civil discourse.” I’m simply saying that 09 certainly wasn’t being civil in his response.
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Gridiron Giant [15672]
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Re: So ban him? C'mon
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Sep 12, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Oh no. I skipped over that part. Don’t ban him. He’s good entertainment I’m just stating he certainly isn’t civil like the above poster implied.
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Re: Mods, pls remove the coot trash***
Sep 13, 2025, 11:38 PM
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Though I agree eith him on nothing, I support his right to say it.
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Re: You probably should stop being friends with the
Sep 13, 2025, 11:29 PM
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How many white supremacists and Nazis are there?
I know one guy who was an Aryan in prison. Other than that, I personally don't know of any.
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That's an interesting quote from Jefferson ...
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:26 PM
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... considering how his relationship with John Adams devolved.
I do agree with and appreciate the sentiment of the quote, though.
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Re: I think Thomas Jefferson may have said it best when he said...
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:30 PM
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Hey at least this whole thing has made it very obvious there are a lot of people out there that are completely on board with political assassinations. Thats probably something most folks didn't realize til the last couple of days.
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By "out there," you mean in general or on this board?***
Sep 12, 2025, 12:33 PM
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Re: By "out there," you mean in general or on this board?***
Sep 12, 2025, 1:12 PM
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In general.
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Why wouldn't they be?
Sep 12, 2025, 12:36 PM
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It's irrefutable that the 2nd Amendment leads to more school shootings.
To support the 2nd Amendment, you have to be ok with school shootings.
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So, the 2A is fairly new? Dumazfk***
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Interesting take.
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:40 PM
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Do you ascribe that reductive reasoning to everything someone may support?
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Within reason
Sep 12, 2025, 12:44 PM
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If you're going to say something unreasonable like we shouldn't have cars because people kill people in DUIs, that's a false equivalence. Because it ignores the utility that cars provide that guns do not.
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lol bro you went from "supporting 2A = endorsement of murdering kids" to
Sep 12, 2025, 12:45 PM
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"CAREFUL ABOUT FALSE EQUIVALENCY."
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What you're trying to argue is a straw man not a false equivalency
Sep 12, 2025, 1:03 PM
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but it's neither a straw man nor a false equivalency, because the statistics show that more guns = more school shootings.
So you have to value the 2nd amendment more than you value school shootings.
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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Statistics also show that more clemson national championships = more school
Sep 12, 2025, 1:04 PM
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shootings.
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Let me preface with saying
Sep 12, 2025, 1:07 PM
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I am both a believer in the second amendment and also in favor of gun reform. I can understand and hold both views.
With that said, I can think of other subjects that may have an equivalent lack of "utility value" that still cause some amount of damage.
Alcohol, recreational Vehicles such as 4 wheelers/dirt bikes, elective cosmetic surgery, contact sports, etc.
And yes, I know that in most of those cases there is an intrinsic difference that only those taking on those activities put themselves at risk. But that is certainly not true for alcohol.
I'm just always interested when I see someone make such a black and white bold claim, as to whether they apply that logic elsewhere. I am, in general, a harm reductionist, and that often leads to pragmatic (at least to me) choices when trying to square freedoms, personal responsibilities, and the public good at large.
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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to be honest, I'm thankful for Classof09.
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Sep 12, 2025, 1:09 PM
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I was thinking that the left-leaners on this board had a monopoly on thoughtful, rational debate. But now it's clear we have our liberal version of ClemsonRangers.
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Re: to be honest, I'm thankful for Classof09.
Sep 12, 2025, 1:19 PM
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09 isn’t the only one..
There is at least one other that doesn’t care for thoughtful, rational debate. The one who posts gotcha type posts and memes on a constant basis. I forget his name.
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Formal logic is a black and white endeavor though
Sep 12, 2025, 1:22 PM
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the "right" or "wrong answer" when it comes to logic is clear one way or the other.
I think what you're doing is confusing opinions with logic. The logic is clear that to support the 2nd amendment you have to tolerate the death of children that come with it. That's irrefutable. It's clearly black and white. The more guns we have the more children that will die at the hands of them.
But what's not clear, or the gray you're alluding to is, whether or not we should ban guns. That's more of an opinion. Is there some utility that guns provide that outweighs the number of dead children? Maybe. I disagree but you're not inherently wrong as an opinion to say you're ok with dead children to have your gun. Then there is lots of gray of whether 500 kids is too many or 800 kids would the right number to challenge the balance.
The difference between those two positions is what often gets lost on here. Like Flow0440 is clearly a bigot. The logic is irrefutable with his anti-transgender rhetoric. Now the question is whether he's a bad person because he's a bigot. People like Catahoula tell me I'm wrong because of the logic, but I'm not. There is ample evidence of his bigotry. But I could be wrong about whether or not he's a bad person. That's an opinion. Too many people on here can't distinguish that nuance.
Now for your pragmatism debate. I would argue that any pragmatic person would see that the cost of guns far outweighs any utility. There something like nearly 50,000 deaths a year to gun violence. There were were like 15,000 alcohol related deaths, even though 178 million people drank last year. I think it's obvious that a more pragmatic person can discern between the utility that comes from drinking versus the utility that comes from gun ownership in this country.
So while alcohol use does come with deaths, it's much more arguably right than gun ownership.
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I think this is where we diverge
Sep 12, 2025, 1:32 PM
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"The logic is clear that to support the 2nd amendment you have to tolerate the death of children that come with it. That's irrefutable. It's clearly black and white. The more guns we have the more children that will die at the hands of them."
I believe this position *may* hold if you define supporting the second amendment as being in favor of absolutely no gun control (and certainly there are people who take that position). I don't equate those 2 positions.
But overall yes, from a purely logical standpoint we do "tolerate" bad outcomes that could be stopped by removing items or freedoms. I'd argue where you went astray is when you describe that as being "on board" with the bad outcomes.
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Mind you. You're arguing with a "free speech absolutist" who wants to ban
Sep 12, 2025, 1:34 PM
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hate speech. So...
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No, it doesn't need such an extremist position
Sep 12, 2025, 1:38 PM
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as no gun control vs full gun control. Because each gun in circulation incrementally increases the likelihood of a school shooting.
Your last paragraph is just a semantics argument though.
"I'm opposed to school shootings but I would rather have school shootings than give up my gun."
Does that really make someone look like a better person?
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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Your grasp of statistics is just as tenuous as your grasp in logic.
Sep 12, 2025, 1:40 PM
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But, your commitment to speaking things into existence remains ever firm.
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Why stop with the Second Amendment?
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There is a large body of evidence that mass shooters are often radicalized online. Clearly, if you support the First Amendment, you support mass shootings.
Then we have a Fourth Amendment problem. Due process is a huge speed bump to stopping mass shooters. We definitely need mass surveillance to track internet search histories and digital communications in real time, and mine this information for keywords that indicate planned mass shootings.
And don't forget about the Third Amendment. If we had live-in home resource officers assigned to every household, there's no way these people could plan attacks without being immediately caught.
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I mean in essence, this was one of Charlie Kirk's arguments in defending 2A.
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That some level of gun violence should be expected and even tolerated in such a society.
That's a big part of the sad irony surrounding his assassination.
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Re: Why wouldn't they be?
Sep 12, 2025, 12:51 PM
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How can you be a lawyer when you apparently failed logic?
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Because this isn't failed logic
Sep 12, 2025, 12:57 PM
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it's actual logic and that's why I graduated in the top 10% of my law school class.
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Re: Because this isn't failed logic
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Is that you Todd Ellis. Are you kidding me? Be sure to stock up on Makers for tomorrow night.
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Re: I genuinely do not believe you.***
Sep 12, 2025, 2:28 PM
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I’d think someone who finished in the top 10% of his class would be a very successful attorney, you know way too busy to post on tnet literally all day long during the work week. But, what do I know.
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110% chance his email signature is
Sep 12, 2025, 2:36 PM
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"Dr. Class Onine, esq."
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That's the harsh reality
Sep 12, 2025, 1:07 PM
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but you're wanting to really turn this into a semantics argument.
"I'm not ok with drunk driving, I just tolerate drunk driving so I can drink beer."
Either way we have to own the negative results of our beliefs.
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No, it's completely following your logic.
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You say I support school shootings because I own guns. You're saying that despite me being a responsible gun owner, I support someone else using them for illegality.
By that logic, because I also own beer and bourbon and consume it, that means I'm okay with someone else using alcohol to commit illegal actions even though I don't drive drunk (well, except in a golf cart).
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There is no world in which this guy is an attorney because any decent
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law professor would have run this guy out of the classroom in 1L.
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Re: There is no world in which this guy is an attorney because any decent
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He’s a narcissist tho. The only one on this board that clearly thinks he knows all. He knows what you’re thinking before you say it. And he’s never wrong.
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He tried to write a thread for me the other night.***
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Re: He tried to write a thread for me the other night.***
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I seen that lol
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It's a shame you didn't take that as an opportunity to learn
Sep 12, 2025, 1:30 PM
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why you were wrong.
You would have definitely been on the lower end of the curve 1L year with the misapplication of logic there.
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Next you're going to tell us you were editor of the Law Review.
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And clerked for Souter.
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I actually got a district clerkships without even doing journal
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Sure you did.***
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Your insecurity is showing***
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I'm sure that's what it is.***
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Yeah, I was agreeing with you
Sep 12, 2025, 1:24 PM
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the fact you didn't realize that explains a lot.
You would rather have school shootings than not have your gun, yes or no?
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lol***
Sep 12, 2025, 1:25 PM
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spare parts bud.***
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Re: Yeah, I was agreeing with you
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You would rather have school shootings than not have your gun, yes or no?
If in some magical world you could guarantee that another school shooting would NEVER happen if I surrendered my guns, then yes, I'd gladly give them up to save kids' lives.
But that's a fairy tale world.
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But it's not a fairy tale world
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The UK hasn't had a school shooting since the 1990s.
But even then, the fact you wouldn't be willing to give up your guns to only have 1 or 2 school shootings a year instead of 39 that we had last year tells a lot about you as a person.
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You can't prove that would be the result here.
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America has had guns since 1776. Yet, school shootings didn't really start taking off until the 21st century.
What prevented them all those years before?
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Nor, if he actually understood statistics, could show a comparable ratio between
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gun proliferation and school shootings prior to columbine, and afterwards.
He's trying to speak into existence that more guns equals more school shootings even though, factually, it fails on its face, with a backdoor justification that "logically" more guns increases the likelihood of school shootings because "it's obvious." A Calcutta gypsy couldn't beg the question more.
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Are you honestly trying to argue that
Sep 12, 2025, 2:09 PM
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fewer guns wouldn't result in fewer school shootings?
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I'm not arguing anything.
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I'm pointing out how fundamentally stupid your arguments are. That's not an insult. They are, objectively, stupidly drawn.
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"I'm not arguing anything"
Sep 12, 2025, 2:18 PM
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"I'm just arguing you're wrong but I can't explain why you're wrong!"
"BUT YOU'RE WRONG"
I've honestly read better arguments from pro se litigants than what's come from you in the last 48 hours.
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LOL. OH NO! A BURN SO SICK IMMA HAVE TO ENJOIN YOU FROM GOING
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FURTHER!!!
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PLEASE MAKE IT ESTOPPEL!!!!***
Sep 12, 2025, 2:22 PM
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No, it's the product itself
Sep 12, 2025, 2:29 PM
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the more the product exists the more likely it is to be used.
You know this right?
I'm assuming you're just trying to straw man your way out of it. But just in case this is a good faith question.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52200]
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So let's say in one dude who wants to commit a mass shooting
Sep 12, 2025, 2:35 PM
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He goes into a store and there are 20 guns for sale. He buys one and commits the crime.
Then there's another dude who wants to do the same thing. He goes into a different store and there are 10 guns. He leaves because he doesn't feel there are enough of them to get the job done.
Is that your logic?
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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Cata, you forgot to frame it in a leading way by saying,
Sep 12, 2025, 2:38 PM
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"You know that's obvious, right?" and then reframe what he said in way that in no way reflects what was actually said.
Oh and then mention that you were accepted to several Tier 1 law schools but wanted to go to a T3 to help them out.
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It's sad that you can't realize that this is so sad.***
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Sep 12, 2025, 2:40 PM
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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he's an attorney you know.
Sep 12, 2025, 2:42 PM
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They're doctors.
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Is this a good faith question?
Sep 12, 2025, 2:44 PM
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The argument is a disgruntled kid who has 10 guns in his house is more likely to be able to access a gun to commit a school shooting than the kid with zero guns in his house.
The kid without a gun has to find a way to get a gun.
Or even changing it up, a kid lives in a neighborhood with 20 homes. Each home has a gun. That's 20 houses he can potentially break into to steal that gun. That's 20 potential points of failure that failed to adequately lock up their weapon.
Compared to the kid living in a neighborhood with 10 guns in homes. Each home has a gun. That's 10 houses he can potentially break into to steal that gun. That's only 10 points of failure.
Statistically, one is more likely to obtain a gun than the other.
Obviously in your scenario, a kid can just walk into a gun store and buy one makes it absurdly easily to commit a school shooting.
You're arguing against things we simply know as true.
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Calcutta beggar bro.***
Sep 12, 2025, 2:48 PM
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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This is where he backdoors his argument.
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Sep 12, 2025, 3:05 PM
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Because it is "obvious" that "more guns" leads to more shootings (argument A) because fewer guns would mean school shootings wouldn't happen (argument B). So it doesn't really matter what the actual data is because if B is true, then A has to be true, and you're not stupid enough to deny B, are you?
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Why don't you tell me why you think it increased
Sep 12, 2025, 3:21 PM
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if you think the obvious answer isn't correct.
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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If you lost the ability to use the word obvious, you'd make a fortune with
Sep 12, 2025, 3:22 PM
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white face paint and a striped shirt.
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You can never prove something will happen
Sep 12, 2025, 2:04 PM
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what kind of standard is that?
As for your question, even though it isn't in good faith, it should be obvious.
There were 190 million plus guns in the 1990s and only 10 million in 1890.
Kids in school in 1890 - 12 million and in 1990 - 42 million.
So guns went up 19x while the school population went up 3.5x...
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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Alberto Gonzalez would even be shocked at how you're torturing the basics of
Sep 12, 2025, 2:07 PM
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logic and stats.
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Curious what your class rank was in law school?***
Sep 12, 2025, 2:10 PM
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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Trust me.
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Sep 12, 2025, 2:14 PM
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I'm stronger than the average male, and my checking account is very impressive.
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I get the vibe he was more of a Charleston Law School guy
Sep 12, 2025, 2:55 PM
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but maybe he got into Carolina.
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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He's talking about you, fella.***
Sep 12, 2025, 3:06 PM
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lol no, he was talking about you
Sep 12, 2025, 3:21 PM
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but that highlights you missing the obvious.
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This is going to be really embarrassing for you.***
Sep 12, 2025, 3:22 PM
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So there were still guns and schools
Sep 12, 2025, 2:27 PM
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When didn't school shootings happen more often?
In fact, it was far easier to get a gun many decades ago than it is now.
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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He's demonstrating the same lack of intellectual curiosity that motivates
Sep 12, 2025, 2:31 PM
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racists to blame crime on one's skin color.
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That's not actually accurate
Sep 12, 2025, 2:35 PM
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in the 1980/1990s there was an explosion of 100 million new guns during that 20 year stretch.
Then you add in the rise in semi-automatic weapons especially handguns like the Glock and the AR-15 during that stretch is what's led to our school shooting problem.
It got much easier to access a weapon in that stretch.
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It was much easier to purchase one without any restrictions. That's my point.***
Sep 12, 2025, 2:39 PM
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You think kids in the 1930s and 50s just had the money
Sep 12, 2025, 2:51 PM
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to walk into a gun store and buy them?
You think kids these days can do the same on the black market?
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Why wouldn't they? Or their parents?
Sep 12, 2025, 3:01 PM
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Fewer restrictions and easier access. The volume and ability was there to do so much more. So why didn't it happen?
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Re: You can't prove that would be the result here.
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I’m old enough to remember guns in the trucks of teenagers on school property. So, I’m trying to figure out why shootings on campuses weren’t as widespread and common then as they are now.
Gotta be something other than just blaming a gun.
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Tiger Titan [51057]
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Clemson National Championships have gone up during this same period.
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Sep 12, 2025, 2:34 PM
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So you know it's obvious right that Dabo is murdering school children. Yes or no, would you rather have natties, or keep school kids safe?
I sincerely can't believe how you want to murder toddlers.
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Jesus Christ
Sep 12, 2025, 1:02 PM
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Does your computer unlock achievements for you like an XBox when you set records for stupid posts?
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congrats, you just won the dumbest take of the day award***
Sep 12, 2025, 2:32 PM
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I mean, ok, so if you are in favor of college football
Sep 12, 2025, 3:00 PM
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you are also in favor of cardiac arrest from chest trauma or paralysis from neck injuries
Am I doing it right?
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Yep, you are correct
Sep 12, 2025, 3:59 PM
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I would rather a couple kids get paralyzed so I can enjoy watching football on Saturdays.
is that really that controversial to admit that?
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smh
Sep 12, 2025, 4:10 PM
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you can be for something and not necessarily be for untoward possible poor outcomes of that activity, possibly say you accept that those things may happen, but you are not a proponent
sorry but your logic is flawed
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No, you can't
Sep 12, 2025, 4:15 PM
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It would be like saying your wife doesn't want to hurt you when she cheats on you.
She knows cheating on you will hurt you. So if she does it, she's not an innocent party to hurting you.
But that lack of logic is really how Republican ideology has operated for the past 40+ years.
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Re: No, you can't
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Sep 12, 2025, 4:26 PM
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your intellectual smugness is misplaced.
that initial choice is an inherently wrong choice with a very high risk of a poor outcome.
apples and oranges
and you think lack of logic is only on one side of the aisle.
you bore me
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But he's a doctor!!!!***
Sep 12, 2025, 4:35 PM
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Yeah it's unfortunately how quickly you guys get bored of the truth
Sep 12, 2025, 4:36 PM
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and the rest of us suffer for it.
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Re: By this logic, every 2A person is on board with school shootings.***
Sep 12, 2025, 1:15 PM
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I would say that anyone who cheers after hearing about a school shooting would be fairly considered to be supportive of school shootings. That would be the logical equivalent to what I said based on your example. No idea what youre trying to say though.
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Apathy!=cheering***
Sep 12, 2025, 1:22 PM
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Problem with that is the people who want to pretend being a POS is politics.
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Sep 12, 2025, 12:31 PM
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It's never differences in tax policy that influences who I am friends with.
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Ding Ding
Sep 12, 2025, 12:37 PM
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You have a different outlook on fiscal policy? Come on over, have a beer and lets chat.
You think people in my family have less of a right to freedoms and are the enemy? No thanks, no need to maintain a friendship.
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Re: I think Thomas Jefferson may have said it best when he said...
Sep 12, 2025, 12:35 PM
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I always admired Jefferson because he never sent a snarky tweet.
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but he literally wrote fake attack adds against Adams
Sep 12, 2025, 12:56 PM
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Meh.
Sep 12, 2025, 12:39 PM
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I can tolerate bad policy ideas. It's an education issue. But if a "friend" regularly spews racism and bigotry, they're just bad people with black hearts. I have no desire to associate with those people. These people are also a chore to be around in general. Buncha whiners.
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Re: I think Thomas Jefferson may have said it best when he said...
Sep 12, 2025, 12:49 PM
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Or shoot them in the neck with a rifle
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That's more of an Andrew Jackson thing.***
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Re: That's more of an Andrew Jackson thing.***
Sep 12, 2025, 12:52 PM
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No doubt
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he just put his friendship with John Adams on ice for a few
Sep 12, 2025, 12:55 PM
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decades becuase of politics
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Re: he just put his friendship with John Adams on ice for a few
Sep 12, 2025, 2:10 PM
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It was John Adams - cut the man some slack
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It's better to put his cousin on ice.
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You sure that wasnt peewee Herman or Archie bunker?***
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Re: I think Thomas Jefferson may have said it best when he said...
Sep 13, 2025, 11:28 PM
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Jefferson was full of crap. He went to war against several of those "friends".
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