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you really like socialists, huh***
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Populism man...
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Mar 13, 2024, 10:48 AM
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These dudes spent so much time dumping on Haley for being a "democrat" only to sport wood over an actual tree-hugging, socialist Democrat. I don't get it, except for the fact that they're populist drones devoid of principle or working brains.
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Tulsi Gabbard was another good example
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They liked her because she was hot and talked tough to other Dems, but they didn't bother to look up how her platform is almost exactly like Elizabeth Warren's.
With Trumpkins, it's not about actual policy. They view this game like it's a WWE Smackdown match.
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bingo***
Mar 13, 2024, 11:03 AM
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Both Tulsi and RFK Jr. blame the US for the Russian war in Ukraine
Mar 13, 2024, 11:23 AM
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and want the US to stop supporting Ukraine in their efforts to defend themselves.
That is one common theme they share.
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Re: Populism man...
Mar 13, 2024, 12:02 PM
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I never dumped on Haley.
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Re: you really like socialists, huh***
Mar 13, 2024, 12:06 PM
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Didn’t realize he was a socialist. I just agreed with most of what he said in the video.
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No you dont. You only want
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Mar 13, 2024, 10:49 AM
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Honest Don Trumplestiltsken to suckle.
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Why do so many Trumpers like this guy?
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Mar 13, 2024, 10:50 AM
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Because he's anti-vax?
Look at his platform. I promise you don't support it, and if you do, well, don't claim to be a conservative any more.
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He gives oxygen to conspiracies and anti establishment sentiment***
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Mar 13, 2024, 10:54 AM
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Re: Why do so many Trumpers like this guy?
Mar 13, 2024, 1:01 PM
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He's easily just as good as the other two options right now. Voting for him is not crazier than voting for Trump or Biden.
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Oh, I don't disagree
Mar 13, 2024, 1:18 PM
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But the Trumpers who support him are showing what we always knew: They don't know much about political ideology, and they certainly aren't conservatives.
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
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'Conservative' and 'Liberal' don't really seem to be exhibited by either party at this point.
Those ideologies have moved to Crazy and Bananas.
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Hold on, now... You're responding to "Mr. Conservative".***
Mar 13, 2024, 1:27 PM
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I've said this for quite some time...
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Mar 13, 2024, 2:09 PM
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The political boundaries now are not Republican/Democrat, but liberal/illiberal.
On the liberal side you have traditional limited-government conservatives, who now have more in common with the hippies of the 60s who were largely skeptical of government power, than they do with the populist elements of their own party.
On the illiberal side, you have Right Populists and Left Progressives, who both agree on the fundamental principle that government power is an efficient and effective tool for achieving political goals. They only disagree on what those goals are. Both would prefer a uniparty system (that they control) that is not beholden to debate, or even constitutional limitations, because it slows down their advancement.
On here, it is why I am much more sympatico with Balm and Birm, than I am with the populist horde. Policy disagreements aside, they are much more classically liberal than TNET MAGA "Republicans."
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Well, in your defense
Mar 13, 2024, 5:25 PM
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You never claimed to be a great judge of character.
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Re: Well, in your defense
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
Mar 13, 2024, 2:32 PM
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MAGA considers RReagan to be a Neocon RINO. These are the same people who once thought he was one of our greatest POTUS ever. Now they despise his policies.
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
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Mar 13, 2024, 2:52 PM
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Just because I prefer Trump over Biden doesn’t make me a Trumper or a hardcore conservative. I guess by today’s standards I’m a conservative. I used to be considered a liberal. I think Trump was a better president than Biden has been. I couldn’t care less of that makes you think I’m some bumbling idiot. I will never meet you and if I did chances are we would get along fine.
I read up on rfk and I agreed with most of his policies from his website. He’s against getting involved or starting foreign wars, Trump didn’t get us involved in foreign wars. I’m all for a clean environment but I disagree with how Biden has gone about it. I liked his view on veterans, higher education, and healthcare. I also liked his plans to fix the housing crisis. He also is way less divisive than Trump or Biden, which is a huge plus to me. Like I said, I thought Trump was a way better president than Biden. Especially when it comes to housing costs, border control, and no wars. That doesn’t make me some Maga trumper crazy. Biden is a #### candidate and i think trump is better. If we had better choices I’d love that.
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
Mar 13, 2024, 3:03 PM
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You believe that "status quo" (MAGA's position) is better than the Bipartisan Border bill. Yes, you're a crazy Trumper. Lol. Nice try.
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
Mar 14, 2024, 12:02 PM
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How did status quo happen?
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
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Hey, if you know where you stand on the issues and don't claim to be a hardcore conservative Trumper while also supporting RFK, that's good on you and I'm sorry for assuming.
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Re: Oh, I don't disagree
Mar 14, 2024, 12:09 PM
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I have many conservative views and beliefs. That being said I don’t attach myself to one party. Both sides have their merits and good ideas (except for the far left and far right). I did like a lot of rfk’s policy that I read on his website. Did I agree with all of it? No. I don’t agree with everything Trump says or does. I will be voting for him though. Like I’ve said, in my mind, he is just the better candidate. Even with all of his egotistical loud moments.
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
Mar 13, 2024, 10:53 AM
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doesnt have a shot
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
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doesnt have a shot
This comment is ironic in so many ways.
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Why?***
Mar 13, 2024, 10:57 AM
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Clearly Mr. Drum Major hates guns, and is an environmental nut.***
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
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I watched the video, I can see the appeal. The problem, and this is not unique to him, is that the ills in this country are pretty obvious to diagnose, but the cures are harder to identify, and the cures we can point out are often bitter pills to swallow. He’s spot on about a lot. Wealth in every country on earth is siphoned off of the working poor and middle class, and transferred to the stock markets and bond holders. If you can afford to participate, congratulations. If you can’t, tough luck, try not being poor. This is not a new human societal ill though, the benefactors just don’t wear crowns or have titles anymore. The federal government is bloated and spending is completely out of control. Allowing endless corporate consolidation and public trading of every industry has us in an auger into the ground.
Fixing the problems that ail us isn’t going to be easy, and requires borrowing ideas from across the political spectrum. This is why moderate viewpoints and compromise are so valuable. Cut government spending. End corporate bailouts. Regulate corporate mergers. Cut taxes. End corporate financing of politics. Restore media regulations about balanced presentation of facts. Create and enforce ethical standards for public servants. Create term limits or some other way to mitigate corruption in Congress.
Politicians and campaigns that divide along social wedge issues make the problem worse, they create an environment where people with differing ideas see each other as their enemy, and the type of compromise and shared common interest our problems require becomes impossible.
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
Mar 13, 2024, 12:06 PM
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Totally agreed. I haven’t studied up much on RFKs policy views and his promises if he was elected. This video pushed me to check him out some more.
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
Mar 13, 2024, 1:44 PM
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Left wing trash can't comprehend someone on the right actually agreeing with someone on an issue, but not necessarily agreeing with them on other issues. The freedom to agree with your ideological opposites on occasion isn't something that's allowed on the left which is why the are all forced to pretend men can get pregnant, should be able to change in women's dressing rooms, etc. Can't agree with the enemy no matter how stupid your parties positions. Keep grabbing those ankles morons.
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that's rich coming from a MAGAt
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Mar 13, 2024, 1:51 PM
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you do know that Trump personally quashes any bipartisan legislation that might take an issue away from him...especially if it neuters his xenophobic appeals to uneducated rednecks.
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"Uneducated rednecks" says it all... "Yea, let's support the cartels!"- Idiot.***
Mar 13, 2024, 1:57 PM
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Re: "Uneducated rednecks" says it all... "Yea, let's support the cartels!"- Idiot.***
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Mar 13, 2024, 2:16 PM
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Mockingly sarcastic.***
Mar 13, 2024, 2:58 PM
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Re: "Uneducated rednecks" says it all... "Yea, let's support the cartels!"- Idiot.***
Mar 13, 2024, 2:59 PM
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So people who don’t have a 4 year degree are poorly educated? Honestly, over half of kids with bachelor’s degrees are people who got fooled into getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for a worthless degree. They keep making up new degrees to get more suckers in to pay. I have an associates in mechatronics and am doing great. I have buddies who graduated from college that work at amusement parks.
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that's the OrangeMan's words. ask him
Mar 13, 2024, 3:00 PM
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or better yet, sign up for a course at Trump U.
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Re: that's the OrangeMan's words. ask him
Mar 13, 2024, 3:29 PM
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Lol. True he did say that. I guess college graduates and non college graduates would’ve been better to say. Trump sometimes says things that makes me cringe.
Still light years better than Biden.
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
Mar 13, 2024, 4:58 PM
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It’s a good video and I agree with most of it. I also realize 90% of the problems he mentions are a direct result of the leftist, woke agenda of the last decade+. The grievance culture the left has created and reinforced teaches people they deserve what others have because they have been cheated. This is a huge distraction from living and working for too many. For example, the POTUS going on national television talking about CEOs and how much they make – that is ridiculous and makes zero difference to the average citizen in the USA. Equity is a backwards concept the left wants to replace merit.
The left invented and runs social media and are consumers more than the right. SM is one of the root causes of mental disorders today. More women are on social media and more leftist women are nut cases. The left’s infatuation with social justice, no peace no justice, defund the police etc. has had nothing but negative consequences for everyone, but more so on the poor living in urban areas. Their jobs are leaving where they live because of theft and safety concerns, but it’s their own fault.
The inability of the left to identify problems and fix them is an ongoing problem. The left cannot address violent black crime rates of 5x-7x whites unless they admit it exists. They cannot admit it because they are all a bunch of weenies looking for their safe space and can’t risk being thought of as racist.
In fact, they are all racist by promoting programs that continue to keep the black community dependent on government. This is the biggest offense against blacks since slavery. Black freedom and prosperity was making gains until the full effect of the ‘war on poverty’ took its toll – thanks democrats, but you have your voting block to keep you in power.
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Haha Trumps whole campaign is about grievance.***
Mar 13, 2024, 6:32 PM
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that is not even close to reality
Mar 13, 2024, 7:52 PM
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The grievance culture is ubiquitous on the left. Race, gender, social status, the transportation system, the school system, etc.
Trump may be a broken record on the election, but if you can't tell the difference, the you are exactly the problem.
The left has an entire 40% of the populous messed up. Trump is only messed up himself.
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Re: I really wish RFK stood a chance
Mar 14, 2024, 4:54 PM
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Isn't he now getting Aron Rogers to run as VP? LOL. I'll boo that guy every time I see him on television from here on our. Of course with his career nearing its end, he'll probably end up as a talking head on OAN.
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