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I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be
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I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 6:26 AM
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"monstrous."

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/re-they-will-36263313#36263313

And I'm glad I did, because Ohio State is now responsible for, according to this outlet, two of the five least-watched championship games in the last quarter century:

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2025/01/cfp-national-championship-ratings-ohio-state-notre-dame-among-least-watched/


Maybe Clemson/Dabo Swinney will make it back next year and give everyone in the flyover states a reason to tune back in. I'm sure ESPN would be grateful.

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CFP needs Clemson to be back and win it all next year!***

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Jan 23, 2025, 6:43 AM
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That is maybe the only win-win scenario for ESPN.

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:00 AM
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Clemson/Swinney draws eyeballs in a way that snoozer programs like OhSt/Ryan Day can't imagine.

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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:02 AM
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Yeah it was just a few weeks ago Kirk Herbstreit said Ohio State and Notre Dame got the best ratings. Not true Kirk Magoo!

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Who?

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:12 AM
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Kirk has been self medicating with massive..

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:52 AM [ in reply to Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be ]
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doses of monthly Estrogen injections for a few years now on the advice of his life coach/spiritual advisor Caitlyn Marie Jenner (formerly Bruce Jenner)...and sadly
the Estrogen loading regimen has had a deleterious effect on his brain chemistry and decision making i.e. Critical Bomani Theory incident:despite being married for nearly 30 years, KH decides homosexual liaisons with a co-worker on and off the Bristol campus with sports commentator and admitted racist, Bomani Jones is a good idea. Hopefully his transformer guru Kaitlyn Jenner can guide Herbie through these dark times.

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I did not understand most of your post.

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:13 AM
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But I did appreciate the use of the word "deleterious."

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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:15 AM
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Interesting. I am surprised for sure. I wonder if it’s more due to E$PN being in less homes as they said or if it really has more to do with a loss of interest from fans due to all the nonsense going on. I know I didn’t watch one minute of it.

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I believe the ESPN slide is part of it.

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:19 AM
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I also believe interest is waning as the narrative has soured with the portal/NIL.

And I also believe that Ohio State/Notre Dame was a snoozer matchup. No great storylines, no real doubt as to who was going to win.

Nevermind that Ohio State is the brand equivalent of a Nilla wafer.

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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:27 AM [ in reply to Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be ]
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I think college football is less appealing now than a few years ago. There are fewer of the David vs Goliath storylines or characters you want to cheer for and it’s more like rich, bloated, spoiled celebrities tussling with each other.

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Agreed.

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Jan 23, 2023, 11:48 AM
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Beyond the gridiron, it's even spilled over into the booth.

People can't relate to guys like Herbstreit (for lack of a better, more recent example) who make about $15M/year and yet haggle with the very fans that drive the ratings that pay their salaries.

You get talked down to enough times, you start tuning them out. See also MSNBC in the political arena. FOX, too. CNN, too. WaPo ... NYT ... it's a long list.

I can barely hang on with Clemson, only because of the way Coach Swinney stuck with his convictions even as the spineless mob clamored for him to blindly jump on the NIL/Portal bandwagon.

Otherwise, I'd be out fishing. The fish may not always bite, but, they also don't ask me for more money every time I flip one into the boat.

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Where's the empathy for Herbie? C'mon ...

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Jan 23, 2025, 8:02 AM
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he views himself as an icon. He opens his heart, he's open to any ideas, specifically those that embrace change and hold diversity above all. Herbstreit is headstrong will not be deterred by logic or rational thought.

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Re: Where's the empathy for Herbie? C'mon ...

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Jan 27, 2023, 8:10 PM
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When it started out it was cute, but the dog thing has got to stop. It’s like they need another narrative other than the game to draw viewers. Kinda like the NFL and Taylor Swift. I tuned in to watch the game, not all of these lame side shows.

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Took a stroll through scenic Haywood Mall yesterday

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:16 AM
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and observed to my wife that I could go the rest of my life without seeing two faces/sideshows on billboards/online/TV ads/during football games (not that I watch NFL):

Patrick flippin' Mahomes
and
Taylor Swift.

And Travis Kelce/Kelce brothers.

Actually the whole Kansas City Chiefs Swift/Kelce love fest.

She said "Well, you're old. They're not selling to you."

Touche.

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The Trumpster inauguration took a lot of viewers...

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:47 AM
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I for one didnt watch one play.

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Eh. Maybe.

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:48 AM
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Some of the diehard poli wonks were probably still following the coverage. But I doubt they'd have been watching football anyway. Especially not a generic matchup like OhSt/ND.

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I watched below deck***

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Jan 23, 2025, 8:16 AM [ in reply to The Trumpster inauguration took a lot of viewers... ]
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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:50 AM
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Quote: [Several factors contributed to the relatively low figure, which was still the top non-NFL sports audience since last year’s Super Bowl. The game took place on Inauguration Day, which almost certainly resulted in greater cable news viewing than is typical. The fact that the game aired as late as Inauguration Day in the first place is another factor, as the expanded 12-team playoff pushed the season a week further into January.

The matchup pit the teams ranked fifth and sixth at the end of the regular season, a departure from title games that had previously consisted of top four — or in the BCS era, the top two — teams. Notre Dame was not expected to keep pace with the Buckeyes, and while they kept the score respectable, the game largely followed expectations.

Perhaps most importantly, ESPN is now said to be in just 65 million homes, a figure that makes it highly difficult to reach the kind of audiences that were once commonplace for the national title game. ]


I thought it would be higher because ND would bring in more non hardcore people. But looking at the historical numbers and I guess the results are inline. Ratings were up 28% last year so the step back is not that dramatic.

My point? No point. Just a lot going on.

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Right.

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Jan 23, 2025, 7:53 AM
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All reasons why (except for the inauguration - I disagree with that one) I questioned whether the thing would drive ratings the way the folks in Bristol hoped and prayed it would. But didn't.

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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 8:27 AM
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I know that my son in law and daughter use a streaming service and they could not get the game. Sometime they can get ESPN and sometimes they can't so people dropping cable, direct and dish certainly affect ratings. Bottom line, the game was not a great one and it was still the most watched game of the year which means big bucks.

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I bet ratings plummeted at halftime.

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:18 AM
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I heard it was pretty much a blowout by then. A buddy said he shut it down and went to bed at the half.

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But you have steadfast in your assertion that the game is more popular than ever


Jan 23, 2025, 12:01 PM [ in reply to Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be ]
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Wrong.

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Yeah the reception on live events can be hit or miss when...


Jan 24, 2025, 3:24 AM [ in reply to Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be ]
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you're piggy backing off a neighbor or just out right pirating
the programming-

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People have been CANNING ESPN for a decade now,

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Jan 23, 2025, 8:51 AM
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that includes streaming. If they ever want to get BACK to those old numbers, they're gonna have to ABC it !!

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Re: People have been CANNING ESPN for a decade now,

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Jan 23, 2025, 10:18 AM
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That is part of the problem. The other part is people are losing interest in college football and are starting to watch pro football.

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I still enjoy College Gameday.

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:19 AM [ in reply to People have been CANNING ESPN for a decade now, ]
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And only College Gameday. And the odd basketball game.

Otherwise, ESPN's a relic.

I don't know that people are tuning out college football to watch NFL. I'm the opposite. Although the more college football starts to look like NFL football, the more I find myself wanting to read a book instead. Or go fishing. Or both.

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There is, of course, no evidence to be found of this, but I have it on good

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:20 AM
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fifth hand authority that Greg Sankey threatened the entire SEC fanbase that if they watched it, their season tickets for next year and beyond would all be cancelled. And, we all know now football crazy the south is, hence the low tv viewership.

:)

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Re: There is, of course, no evidence to be found of this, but I have it on good

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:49 AM
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There is something to that. Some of the gamecock & SEC fans I know, don't believe there is college FB outside the SEC. If there is not a SEC team involved it is not worth watching.

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There isn't a lot of *interesting* football outside of the SEC.


Jan 23, 2025, 1:43 PM
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That's how I'd frame it.

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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 9:43 AM
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My question is could they have also shown it on ABC? With ESPN losing cable viewers, showing it on ABC would seem to make more sense to Disney.

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Re: I questioned a pundit who claimed Buckeye/Domer ratings would be

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Jan 23, 2025, 10:43 AM
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A lot of people have gotten turned off by the lawlessness of the sport.

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I don't know what you might mean by lawlessness.


Jan 23, 2025, 1:45 PM
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If you mean the tampering coaches say is going on with the portal, I'm less turned off by the idea of it* as I am by all the coaches whining about it* without naming names/outing other coaches, because they're probably doing it too.

Foxes guarding the hen house stuff.

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