Replies: 39
| visibility 4386
|
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
Rewatched the Duke game
4
Oct 1, 2023, 4:44 PM
|
|
I don’t know why I do this to myself.
Couple of major takeaways. .
1. TOs were big but was not the only reason we lost.
2. Duke offense just seemed to be faster and more athletic than our defense.
|
|
|
 |
Gridiron Giant [15405]
TigerPulse: 100%
50
Posts: 10792
Joined: 1999
|
I don't know why
3
Oct 1, 2023, 4:47 PM
|
|
you did that to yourself either.
j/k
|
|
|
|
 |
Heisman Winner [78587]
TigerPulse: 100%
62
Posts: 120227
Joined: 1998
|
Re: I don't know why
Oct 1, 2023, 5:08 PM
|
|
There's no sun up in the sky Stormy weather Since my girl and I ain't together Keeps raining all of the time
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
I know but I am more objective during the
6
6
Oct 1, 2023, 5:11 PM
[ in reply to I don't know why ] |
|
…rewatch.
Just really surprised me that Duke’s QB and both RBs seemed to be faster than anyone on our defense.
We have a very good defense but we need to recruit more speed on that side of the ball.
|
|
|
|
 |
Heisman Winner [79992]
TigerPulse: 100%
62
Posts: 29572
Joined: 2018
|
Our LB's admitted they weren't in shape.
6
6
Oct 1, 2023, 5:17 PM
|
|
I wouldn't have rewatched that for 100 bucks.
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
It was tough, man.
2
Oct 1, 2023, 6:41 PM
|
|
But usually I feel better after a rewatch. I didn’t this time.
|
|
|
|
 |
Game Changer [1697]
TigerPulse: 95%
31
|
|
|
|
 |
Clemson Conqueror [11515]
TigerPulse: 98%
46
Posts: 13996
Joined: 2021
|
Re: I know but I am more objective during the
Oct 1, 2023, 6:56 PM
[ in reply to I know but I am more objective during the ] |
|
Need to tackle better. Especially at LB.
Maybe there was too much ‘All American’ hype about Carter and Trotter before the season. Both of these guys are spectacular with their speed and instincts; that was the justification for their lofty pre-season accolades.
Hopefully they will become more consistent tacklers moving forward. If that happens, then their preseason AA status will be justified.
|
|
|
|
 |
Game Changer [1605]
TigerPulse: 100%
31
|
Re: I know but I am more objective during the
Oct 2, 2023, 12:10 PM
|
|
I can't watch it again!
|
|
|
|
 |
Legend [6832]
TigerPulse: 96%
41
|
Re: I know but I am more objective during the
Oct 2, 2023, 12:42 PM
[ in reply to Re: I know but I am more objective during the ] |
|
Trotter and carter do not look nfl ready. Looks like we need new conditioning guy if they not in shape.
|
|
|
|
 |
Paw Warrior [4804]
TigerPulse: 100%
37
|
Re: I know but I am more objective during the
Oct 2, 2023, 1:37 PM
[ in reply to I know but I am more objective during the ] |
|
I will say this, if those guy make the tackles most the runs are for minimal. Busted coverages will make things look different too. Carter is FAST but he busted a few assignments and it made him look slow, Trotter is not a burner so if he gets caught looking its going to be bad if a rb sneaks out on a wheel.
Speed in the second level is not lacking, that twitchy Edge guy though...outside XT theres no one. Parker is awesome but hes a grinder not going to just blow by guys with good technique. Parker is very much like Clelin Ferrel id like to see another Vic Beasley type come in to compliment next year.
|
|
|
|
 |
Paw Warrior [4804]
TigerPulse: 100%
37
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
3
Oct 1, 2023, 5:59 PM
|
|
I dont need to rewatch.
Tackling was awful and still has moments of w.t.f. now.
How many times did you note plays were blown up in the backfield but the defender missed or got muscled out of the way?
On offense 2 fumbles on their side of the field hurt. Not playing the best wrs on the team hurt, not having any balls to play for TDs hurt(this is my biggest gripe rn but i do believe its a matter of the coaching staff gelling at this point), and the killer was Cade not realizing he needed to slide later or dive for that first down on 4th.
The OL was good but they were bad in too many critical moments if that makes sense? I think the playcalling really put them in a bad spot on a few of those.
|
|
|
|
 |
Heisman Winner [85987]
TigerPulse: 100%
62
Posts: 38854
Joined: 2003
|
Our tackling (or lack of) was really bad in that game, too.
1
Oct 1, 2023, 6:27 PM
|
|
But, unlike yesterday, we had no offense, with all the turnovers, to overcome the poor tackling on defense.
|
|
|
|
 |
Standout [340]
TigerPulse: 74%
15
|
and yet we outgunned them by 50 yards,
2
Oct 1, 2023, 6:38 PM
|
|
almost doubled them up in First Downs, and
won TOP by 7 minutes.
Yeah, they kicked our jazzes all over the place.
The first question that I am going to ask God in the afterlife is why he made Naysayers: people who talk down about other people in order to raise their own status. It's clearly a skill, yet not one that I would ever want replicated if I could avoid it. The whole world would be significantly better off without this sort of crap.
Go pull for the U....
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
Where did I say they kicked our ##### all over the place?
2
Oct 1, 2023, 6:48 PM
|
|
Reading comprehension is your friend, friend.
|
|
|
|
 |
Standout [340]
TigerPulse: 74%
15
|
yeah, don't call me "friend" a-hole...
1
3
Oct 1, 2023, 8:27 PM
|
|
you can go play your manipulative games with someone else....
say Jester Keller for instance.
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
What is wrong with you?
Oct 2, 2023, 7:57 AM
|
|
You're going end up getting banned with all these childish posts, friend.
|
|
|
|
 |
Standout [340]
TigerPulse: 74%
15
|
LOL, can't help yourself can you?***
1
Oct 2, 2023, 8:27 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Freshman [-98]
TigerPulse: 71%
-1
|
Re: What is wrong with you?
Oct 2, 2023, 1:58 PM
[ in reply to What is wrong with you? ] |
|
BPT is a professional troll. Ole Mike isn't a noob tho.
|
|
|
|
 |
Game Changer [1801]
TigerPulse: 88%
31
|
|
|
|
 |
Ultimate Tiger [34077]
TigerPulse: 100%
56
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
1
Oct 1, 2023, 6:41 PM
|
|
You might consider therapy. Self harm is a warning sign, you know. 😉
|
|
|
|
 |
Freshman [-98]
TigerPulse: 71%
-1
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 1:53 PM
|
|
self harm is a warning sign for what? a relative's friend wants to know...
|
|
|
|
 |
All-In [10784]
TigerPulse: 100%
45
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 1, 2023, 6:42 PM
|
|
No.
TO’s don’t happen then we win that game by two scores.
Defense was not inspired, that s on the coaches. Duke played harder. They’re players are not more athletic than Clemson
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
2
Oct 1, 2023, 6:50 PM
|
|
I saw their QB run a 45 yard TD untouched.
I saw both RBs run away from just about everyone on our defense on several occasions.
I am not saying we have a bad defense. We don’t. But Duke sure looked faster that night on offense.
|
|
|
|
 |
Dynasty Maker [3382]
TigerPulse: 100%
34
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
1
Oct 1, 2023, 10:28 PM
|
|
Honestly it appeared that the Tigers took Duke lightly from a coaching and player perspective and it showed.
Did not have the urgency to start the game and by the time we got going Duke had gained confidence.
|
|
|
|
 |
CU Guru [1574]
TigerPulse: 95%
30
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 10:16 AM
[ in reply to Re: Rewatched the Duke game ] |
|
It couldn't be because Duke had a game plan that got our defenders out of position. Because again, Florida St.'s guys didn't look faster that our defenders.
|
|
|
|
 |
National Champion [7625]
TigerPulse: 100%
42
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
2
Oct 1, 2023, 6:43 PM
|
|
Seems like all Dabo's teams are a step slow to begin the season every year and get better and faster as the year progresses. Guess that is why we need cupcakes front loaded in the schedule or go ahead and have a couple of Exhibition Games like Dabo has been begging for incessantly for years!
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
That could be it.***
1
Oct 1, 2023, 6:51 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Clemson Conqueror [11515]
TigerPulse: 98%
46
Posts: 13996
Joined: 2021
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
2
Oct 1, 2023, 6:52 PM
|
|
Watched the Duke rerun to focus on one player; Blake Miller.
B. Miller was very poor in his pass blocking against Duke. IMO, for that game, he was the weak link in our OL. His poor play contributed significantly to our offense’s struggles.
(We all know that CK2 simply didn’t look ready to win games against good FB teams when playing Duke.)
Good news, though. From what I could gather from FSU and Syracuse games, B.Miller played very well. Right up ther with Marcus Tate and Will Putnam.
Of course, we all witnessed meaningful improvement in CK2’s play from Duke vs FSU vs Syracuse. Not a finished product by a long shot, but good enough for us to beat teams that we should beat (Wake, NCSU, GA Tech). If he keeps improving at the same rate as he did between Duke game to Syracuse game, we have a puncher’s chance at winning the rest of the games on our schedule.
|
|
|
|
 |
Ring of Honor [23757]
TigerPulse: 100%
53
Posts: 15275
Joined: 1995
|
Yeah, I completely agree.***
1
Oct 1, 2023, 7:48 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
CU Medallion [20802]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 18731
Joined: 2012
|
I dont know why you do either***
1
Oct 1, 2023, 6:56 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Game Day Hero [4342]
TigerPulse: 100%
36
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 8:21 AM
|
|
I'm not sure why....it's of no relevance now....water under the bridge.
|
|
|
|
 |
CU Guru [1574]
TigerPulse: 95%
30
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 10:02 AM
|
|
Well then Duke must be one of the fastest teams on the planet, because Florida St. certainly didn't look faster ans more athletic than our defense.
|
|
|
|
 |
Tiger Titan [50729]
TigerPulse: 79%
58
Posts: 37005
Joined: 2003
|
Duke seemed as fast if not faster than us.
Oct 2, 2023, 10:08 AM
|
|
That's something I never thought I would say when talking about football.
|
|
|
|
 |
Clemson Icon [27753]
TigerPulse: 100%
54
Posts: 32032
Joined: 2003
|
Game stats
Oct 2, 2023, 12:07 PM
|
|
Are for losers. Only one stat counts in college football. I bet you are clever enough to figure out which one really counts!
DUKE had the best stat in this game.... by a considerable margin.
We might get a chance to redeem ourselves if Duke can make it to the big game in Charlotte. How great would that be.
|
|
|
|
 |
Top TigerNet [32927]
TigerPulse: 100%
55
Posts: 18464
Joined: 2008
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 12:09 PM
|
|
It was more of our LB's and Safeties taking bad/incorrect angles than speed, IMO.
|
|
|
|
 |
All-TigerNet [5643]
TigerPulse: 100%
39
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 12:10 PM
|
|
Ive rewatched it too, and yes, I have the same opinion as you the D was not ready on game 1.
|
|
|
|
 |
Orange Blooded [2160]
TigerPulse: 99%
32
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 12:26 PM
|
|
1. TO's were huge. Did you pay attention to where they happened? 3 trips inside the 10 with no points.
2. Duke was very athletic, they are a good team. Elko has that program on the upswing. They should have beat ND but they collapsed on the last drive ... prevent defense ...
3. Bottom Line - we beat ourselves, mistakes, ball control, no real run game to speak of.
Now what I would like to know is what happens a halftime, our 3d quarter play has been pretty flat all around...
|
|
|
|
 |
Paw Warrior [4902]
TigerPulse: 98%
37
|
Re: Rewatched the Duke game
Oct 2, 2023, 12:39 PM
|
|
|
I attached the stats for the game.
We won every important stat there is, except Turnover Margin. And it was by only 1:
Those turnovers WERE the reason we lost that game. The domino effect of a turnover, like ones that occur inside the 10 yard line, is tremendous.
If we do not fumble on at least 1 or maybe both, we score. Either 3 or a TD. But rather, we got nothing. Those points could’ve completely changed that game.
I will say that there weren’t as many explosive plays happening. Even though the offense was driving the field every time.
|
|
|
|
 |
National Champion [8074]
TigerPulse: 100%
42
|
NOOOOOOO
Oct 2, 2023, 1:41 PM
|
|
Was it easier to view knowing what was going to happen ???
And yes, this year Duke is a good enough team to challenge for ACC crown. They played a great game with ND, right up until they did the proverbial loser move of going 3 down lineman after pressuring Hartman into bad decisions during the 2nd half.
I think our Tigers win the game without the 14 point swing that completely changed the game. We score and the game flow completely changes, the confidence on our side is high and on their side is hindered.
Either way it matters not, the outplayed our Tigers and deserved the W.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 39
| visibility 4386
|
|
|