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Varsity [104]
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For those of you that hate the portal...
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:05 PM
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...and panned FSU for using it, and praised Dabo for not using it...
Did you see the Georgia transfer players scoring all those points on us today?
Are you watching Miami's transfer QB shellacking Florida in the Swamp?
Just wondering...
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Hall of Famer [8171]
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Cam Ward putting on a clinic for Miami on the road at Florida.***
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:08 PM
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Absolutely
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:09 PM
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And Mertz looks like Cade for UF.
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Valley Legend [13066]
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Re: Absolutely
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:24 PM
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Go pull for Miami!
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Varsity [104]
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What's that you say, Coot?******
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: What's that you say, Coot?******
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:57 PM
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Bluffton quit wasting your typing skills on here and go talk to Dabo. No one on this board can do anything about it.
I know you think you are having a “hold my beer” moment. Enjoy this loss. Fake USC is using it to, so what. Georgia was loaded without the portal. You recruit top 5 you will be a top tier team. We are currently in the 10-15 range. Recruiting needs improvement.
Hey get back with us after you meet with Dabo. Again no one here can change a thing but decrease their giving so you are beating a dead horse.
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Ultimate Tiger [33828]
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I think hes UTenn but I could be wrong
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:26 PM
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They whipped up on Chattanooga
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Varsity [104]
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Dynasty Maker [3347]
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Re: Absolutely
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:28 PM
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You know Mertz was a transfer and Florida has a highly touted QB sitting on the bench. Comparing apples to oranges. Ward was very good last year. He will be good this year. UF was a 4 or 5 win team last year and there offense was stagnant just like ours.
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Gridiron Giant [15432]
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Re: For those of you that hate the portal...
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:11 PM
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The kool-Aid drinkers only hate it because Dabo said so. The three military academies and Dabo's Clemson are the only schools in the country that avoid it.
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Starter [252]
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Re: For those of you that hate the portal...
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:23 PM
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Military Academies haven't won anything since Lincoln was president
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Valley Legend [12359]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:34 PM
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Not true. The military academies won when FDR was president. So there you are.
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Solid Orange [1389]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:45 PM
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I do laugh that the only time the military academies won was when the young men without connections to senators had to go fight in the war.
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Varsity [139]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:20 PM
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You're absolutely right. I would be sick of people trash talking and laughing at me, because that's what they're doing. At this point I'm worried about App State. Hard times have set in.
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Orange Blooded [2198]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:36 PM
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Next week we will score under 27 and win by 7-10 points. We will go under 315 total yards. Take that to Vegas!
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Fan [31]
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Re: For those of you that hate the portal...
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:20 PM
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announcer today said 32% starters in college football are transfers. We are a 68% team
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Playmaker [374]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:24 PM
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I read a stat that said 9 of the 32 first round picks in this year's NFL Draft were transfer portal players at one time.
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Valley Legend [12359]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:35 PM
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But 23 were not.
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Paw Master [17487]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:39 PM
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That’s 33% who are. We’re missing out. Think if the Atlanta Falcons refusing to use free agency. That’s Dabo. Period. Last three national champions had between 12-15% of their roster as transfers. Those with lower numbers have had increasingly worse season records. See Clemson last three years. Less wins and more losses every year. Just facts. Evolve or die. We’re dying.
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Asst Coach [833]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:24 PM
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Why don’t you anti up to help out our NIL. We don’t have the money to compete with top dogs on NIL. It’s going to take more than 10 a year .
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Associate AD [1044]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:32 PM
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My goodness bro this is complete BS. I can’t believe people actually post and believe this ridiculous nonsense.
We have a s*it load of money and anybody who thinks different is insane. How did we build that state of the art facility? How is Dabo the 2nd highest paid coach in the country? How can we afford a 2 mill a year OC? How can we afford a top 5-10 coaching staff? Bc WE HAVE MONEY.
Dabo refuses to use it to recruit. He’s even said so out his own mouth. He uses it to retain not acquire and that’s the problem.
So you’re telling me GT can go get a former 5 star QB from Texas A&M in Haynes King but we don’t have the money to go to the portal? NC St went and got Grayson McCall. VT went and got Kyron Drones. Miami went and got Cam Ward and the list goes on and on.
So you’re telling me GT and NC St have more NIL money than Clemson? GTFOH with that nonsense. We have plenty of money… we just have a stubborn old man in charge of it refusing to use it to acquire talent.
Nobody will ever convince me that GT and NC St can do it but we can’t. There is no way in this world they have money for that and we don’t.
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All-TigerNet [5666]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:40 PM
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Nailed it.
Big $$$ ain’t happy. The fall is real. Zero reason for it. Trying to play modern game with one hand tied behind your back. Self inflicted which is a shame. Didn’t have to be this way.
Less is more…stop painting yourself into corners that make it difficult to change direction
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Paw Master [17487]
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Paw Warrior [4830]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:45 PM
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And if we DON’T have the $ just say so and we can go back to being a college football team and play Old Dominion, Army, Lehigh,etc.
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Varsity [132]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:48 PM
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You do know that the University or the Coach can’t pay NIL, correct? Why don’t you and the rest of the people on here whose entire world is falling apart over a football team all go in together and pay all the best high school recruits big money to come to Clemson and play. There is nothing the University or Dabo can do to stop you.
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Associate AD [1044]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:54 PM
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Dude just shut up. Good lord the people that say the whole… oh you’re losing your mind never a football team… no not at all…
It’s a hobby you moron. Nobody here is suffering bc we lost a football game but some take it more serious than others and that’s ok. It hurts to lose but does that mean life is bad? Absolutely not but does that mean we have to be happy about the fall from the top we’re experiencing? H*ll no we don’t.
If you don’t like seeing people talk about Clemson football then this isn’t the place for you.
I guarantee you’re the type that without googling… you couldn’t name 5 players on the team. I can’t stand people that say stupid s*it like you just did.
Not a single person here is saying anything about losing their mind over a football game. But a lot of us give money to this school and we expect to win or at the very least be competitive. That’s how I know you have no clue about this game.
If it doesn’t mean a whole lot to you then hey that’s cool but to others it means a helluva lot and you don’t get to decide where Clemson football ranks on peoples priority list just bc it ranks low for you. So keep your bs to yourself
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Varsity [132]
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Re: For those of you that hate the portal...
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:17 PM
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Cry me a river you #####! I’ve been a fan of Clemson football since Charlie Pell was the coach. If I remember correctly, there wasn’t a problem paying players during his tenure or Danny Fords either. I also remember exactly where I was when the breaking news that Danny Ford was out. I lived through Ken Hatfield, Tommy West, Bowden and Dabo. I know what it’s like to lose and win.
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Associate AD [1044]
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:29 PM
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The fact you felt the need to state your fan credentials tells me all I need to know.
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Paw Warrior [4607]
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:35 PM
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Naming all the old coaches does not mean you are true fan coot.
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Varsity [132]
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:53 PM
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Awe, I know I hurt your feelings when you start calling people the coot word you pu$$y!
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: That's B.S.
Aug 31, 2024, 7:01 PM
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From what I have understood that they use most of the funds to retain what they have.
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Varsity [104]
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Which is part of why Dabo whiffed...
Aug 31, 2024, 7:52 PM
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on the three OL guys gee trued to get in the spring.
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Varsity [104]
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Standout [235]
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I dont think this is NIL
Aug 31, 2024, 7:49 PM
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I did not read the article. Just a quick scan. I don’t think this is NIL collective dollars. This is fundraising dollars from 2005 to 2022. So, what IPTAY has raised annually. This can be captured because these are non profit organizations that have to report. I don’t think collectives have to report. So do we really know what we are up against?
Anyway,if we use this list as a base line we came in at 28 million a year. 13 schools ahead of us, 9 of which are now Big 10 and SEC schools raised more per year. Those 9 also get roughly 20 million more a year in TV dollars. South Carolina was right behind us at 27 million a year, they get 20 million more in TV dollars to.
I think some of us are questioning if we can financially keep up with the “Jones” year after year. I am proud of my school. And I know the Clemson family tries to support. But some of us believe we are in a “arms race” we are concerned we can’t win. I think Dabo is very tuned into this. I think that is why we are doing what we are doing. We are trying a different approach and I believe appeal/ recruit using a loyalty/ traditional grass roots theme to sign athletes that are not looking for a pay day. It may totally crash and burn. I don’t think it has. Seems we are about right where we should be if looking at dollars spent. Also I think he is biding time with this approach/ hoping some type of rules will be installed that levels the playing field (salary cap) or conference realignment. I believe he knows once he goes down the transfer path, he can’t use this approach in the future. So again, just trying to tread water for a few years.
I am frustrated too, paying for play has really shaken up the game. It’s allowed the bigger schools to flex using dollars. It’s allowed some big schools that were off the map to get back into the conversation. It’s going to take some time for the system to normalize. There will eventually be some rules to help the competition aspect. Just have to keep doing our best to keep our head above water. Hopefully we can preserve what makes Clemson special though. We don’t want to scrafice long term success and what makes us special for a short term gain.
Not raising the white flag. Just raising a concern. Looking for bright spots after today. I do think our offensive line played better. So Matt Luke seems to be effective. It got a way from us more at the end. But I did like what I saw in general. I thought the the Dline also looked good. So Eason did good. Georgia, ahead of us on this list , just has more players. At least 2 More running backs, 3 wideouts, a better Safety ( awesome play making that pick) and a better QB. But when you have 20 million more potentially in the coffers, it makes sense that they will have an advantage in difference makers.
Hopefully we see more improvement next week.
Go Tigers!
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Game Changer [1649]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:40 PM
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I don’t hate the portal because Dabo doesn’t want to use it. I’m just a realist. The humorous thing to me is that some of you fans think if you “b@%#h and moan enough about it, Dabo is going to do what you want him to do. There is no reason to think that Dabo is going to change his philosophy about the transfer portal. So the question you have to answer is whether or not you still want Dabo to be the Clemson coach. If so, let it go! If not, recruit others to join you in confronting the Board of Trustees In demanding his replacement. What you’re doing now is whining because “gravity always makes things fall down.” It’s reality! Deal with it! But before getting Dabo fired (which isn’t going to happen, by the way), decide who you’re going to hire to replace him. Go Tigers!
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Paw Master [17487]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:44 PM
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If he doesn’t change the no. Hit the road. I helped get Hatfield, West, and Bowden removed. I led booster meetings and withdrew support. I’m there again. No dollars until Dabo evolves. I was hated by many every time. But it was what was best for Clemson.
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Varsity [104]
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:46 PM
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Unrealistic attempt to connect the dots. I personally want Dabo to adapt to use the portal effectively. I want him to stop being loyal to starters that aren't producing on the field because he's stubborn.
I'm tired of him valuing personal loyalty over performance.
Today was a disaster. A complete embarrassment. I don't want any repeats. Unfortunately, confidence in that is not high.
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Associate AD [1044]
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It’s nobody here’s job to find the replacement. We’re not paid to do that.
Last I checked… this is a message board in which the purpose is to… you guessed it… post your feelings and thoughts and whines and cries about Clemson football…
Don’t like what you’re reading? Then get off the board… nobody is forcing you to read it. If you disagree that’s fine but don’t get mad bc others want to voice their frustrations with other fans of the team they love.
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Associate AD [1044]
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It’s nobody here’s job to find the replacement. We’re not paid to do that.
Last I checked… this is a message board in which the purpose is to… you guessed it… post your feelings and thoughts and whines and cries about Clemson football…
Don’t like what you’re reading? Then get off the board… nobody is forcing you to read it. If you disagree that’s fine but don’t get mad bc others want to voice their frustrations with other fans of the team they love.
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: For those of you that hate the portal...
Aug 31, 2024, 7:05 PM
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Post it one more time no one caught the drivel you are spewing on the first or the 2nd posts.
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Associate AD [1044]
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:31 PM
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Yet you took the time to respond. That says more about you than anything else.
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Hall of Famer [9014]
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I hate the portal and i hate nil. Its ruined the game imo. That said,
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If Clemson wants to stay relevant, we are going to have to, begrudgingly, embrace it. Immediately.
Now, all that said - there is far, FAR too much talent on this roster to look as inept as we have not just today but for the past several years. And i lay that squarely at the feet of the coaching staff.
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Paw Master [17487]
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Re: I hate the portal and i hate nil. Its ruined the game imo. That said,
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:46 PM
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It’s coaching or lack thereof. Goodwin should never be a coordinator. Grisham. Stoudt. Many nepotism hires and promotions that never should have happened. When we won it all, we hired the best coaches money could buy. Dabo’s been hiring the best friends he can find. It shows.
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Hall of Famer [9014]
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I agree man, completely.***
Aug 31, 2024, 6:48 PM
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Paw Warrior [4607]
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Re: For those of you that hate the portal...
Aug 31, 2024, 7:39 PM
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I hate the portal for fear of having these conversations.
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