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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Charlie Kirk was a D-bag. He obviously didn't deserve to be killed, but he was a D-bag. Both can be true.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Charlie Kirk was a D-bag. He obviously didn't deserve to be killed, but he was a D-bag. Both can be true.
Wrong, that is incorrect
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It's an opinion. It's neither correct nor incorrect.***
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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From my perspective he was. To each their own as far as opinions of him. To me he is a D-bag. Obviously tons of people love him though.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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From my perspective he was. To each their own as far as opinions of him. To me he is a D-bag. Obviously tons of people love him though.
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Also puzzling about this quote...
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Michelle Obama is DEI? DEI what? First lady? Did Barack hold tryouts to be his wife and show favoritism to minorities?
I'd surmise that what you're left with is that he's very annoyed that a black woman has any sort of platform.
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As evidenced by his close friendship and promotion of Candace Owens?***
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Re: As evidenced by his close friendship and promotion of Candace Owens?***
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According to Joe Biden, Candace Owens does not qualify as black.
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Re: As evidenced by his close friendship and promotion of Candace Owens?***
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You ain't black if you dont vote for him. He even used bad grammar to try and relate.
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Re: A lot of Black folks would agree.***
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Given her skin color, that would obviously be wrong.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Soo... do you have the clip where he says, "Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously."
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You're splitting hairs 8 ways here, but the "you" in "YOU do not have the
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brainpower..." is, at a minimum, 4 black women with various platforms, including a Harvard graduate. So no, the college dropout with a huge platform backed by billionaires didn't precisely say "Black women do not have...", but if that's the defense we're going with, then....good luck with that. Maybe a "You people" would have really brought it home.
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I mean to be fair I could say Trump, Hegseth, RFK jr, dont have the brainpower
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To run anything and Im not talking about all white guys
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Re: I mean to be fair I could say Trump, Hegseth, RFK jr, dont have the brainpower
Sep 15, 2025, 4:16 PM
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Clearly you are.
White men are stupid is what you just said.
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If you then say, "and they had to steal a minority's job to be taken seriously"
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it implies that the "minorities" possess something they (white guys) don't, which then makes them (minorities) suitable for their jobs, which in that case is "brainpower".
It's true Kirk isn't explicitly saying all black women, but that's his clear implication (he did the same thing with black pilots too)
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Re: You're splitting hairs 8 ways here, but the "you" in "YOU do not have the
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There's a very big difference in accusing 4 individuals of lacking intelligence and blanket accusing an entire segment of the population of lacking intelligence. Politicians with Harvard degrees are called dumb all the time.
You can think what he said was pretty dumb and still understand that he did not say what he was being accused of there.
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Re: You're splitting hairs 8 ways here, but the "you" in "YOU do not have the
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He was saying that they are products of affirmative action and really not intelligent. It is something he often said about minorities and their jobs. He was his way of ragging on affirmative action. I am not sure if he even have any thought about intelligence.
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I was thinking the same.
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Charlie picked out the braindead, who happen to be black. He did what he should have did. Didn’t generalize. He specified.
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You clearly dont have the brain processing power to
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understand grammar.
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Are those statements the same?....
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I assume in the first statement, people are interpreting that as meaning black women in general or all black women.
That's not remotely the same as naming 3 specific women who happen to be black...right?
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4, but who's counting.
Sep 15, 2025, 4:09 PM
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Although what little I've seen of Joy Reid, she's awful, so.
But yes, that "you" in his statement is doing some HEAVY lifting in keeping his toes just behind the line of disparaging an entire race/sex. It's also a stretch to claim that telling specific people that they're DEI hires who took the slot of a white person (notice he didn't include any other race) isn't racist af, just on a more micro level.
I mean, Sheila Jackson Lee was elected. How is that DEI? Did she take a white man's rightful slot?
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I have seen both positives and negatives from "DEI hires".
Sep 15, 2025, 4:23 PM
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In medicine, for example, medical schools will accept sub par African American students. Obviously, that does not mean that every African American student is a "DEI hire". Many of these who are struggle significantly to pass boards, etc as you would expect and eventually get "pushed through" after repeating a few times. But, many of these also are willing to go to areas and serve certain communities that your typical headstrong white guy wouldn't want to deal with.
The flip side is the potential substandard care that may be received. But, substandard care could also be received from a genius as well.
I think it's a dangerous game, but I also understand the potential benefits of the game.
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Always be suspicious of short cut clips...
Sep 15, 2025, 6:36 PM
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He's referring to those ladies saying they owed their admittance in college to affirmative action. He's speaking to that.
Context is key here. THEY said they got in due to affirmative action.
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That's in the clip but he adds the "you don't have the brain power necessary"***
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Yeah, he's calling those 4 people not smart enough to get into college...
Sep 16, 2025, 8:58 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with him...for sure on M. Obama, but it's not racist and he's not calling all black women stupid.
And when you view the comments in the context that the women said they need affirmative action to get in...are they also saying they weren't smart enough/had right qualifications?
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No, they're not saying they aren't smart enough b/c they used affirmative action
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and that's the point. Kirk and many others think those who are "let in" because of affirmative action aren't "smart" and that the "slots" or "jobs" they take rightfully belong to white people. That's an incredibly racist and ignorant belief, especially coming from a white college dropout.
It's the bolded part that tells you what you need to know about what Kirk is really saying in that quote.
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This really illustrates how indoctrinated you are, considering over the course
Sep 16, 2025, 3:33 PM
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of years he repeatedly and explicitly stated that he believed in a meritocracy where the best person gets the job/spot. I see you have referenced the 'black pilot' quote several times, that is another instance where he plainly stated he believed in meritocracy, and giving people a job based on skin color would potentially end up undermining the people it is trying to help.
Some of you really need to re-evaluate where you get your news and information, even though I know you won't. The usual crew here keeps on whiffing at the plate, but y'all keep on swinging nonetheless lol. Again, it was clear to me during covid you guys would go along with whatever you were told, regardless of how ridiculous it was, but hopefully this is waking up others to that reality.
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Saying someone stole a "white person's job" is not arguing for meritocracy...
Sep 16, 2025, 4:32 PM
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no amount of projection offered by your argument can hide that fact.
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would love to see someone respond to this part. Theyre all
Sep 16, 2025, 7:03 PM
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glossing over it. He said the quiet part really fucking loud.
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I'd have to look up their specific circumstances...
Sep 16, 2025, 4:28 PM
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but in general it's been argued affirmative action helps alleviate due to the systemic racist elements found in testing, schools and society that don't give them the same equitable opportunities.
I'm not even arguing for affirmative action here. The issue is that Kirk automatically assumes because they used affirmative action, they 1)aren't smart or qualified (which is laughable to say about M.Obama and Jackson) and 2)that they "stole white people's spots/jobs" which is racist/ignorant
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Re: I'd have to look up their specific circumstances...
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They may be smart or qualified but that in no way means they are the smartest or most qualified which is why normal people hate DEI. DEI doesnt mean whoever gets the job is an incompetent moron, but it almost certainly means whoever got the job wasnt the best candidate and thats wrong on pretty much every level to normies.
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It's because of arguments like Kirk's that you believe that.***
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Re: It's because of arguments like Kirk's that you believe that.***
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I was of that opinion before Kirk was even born. I'm also against nepo and good old boy hires as they tend to also elevate people to roles they don't deserve. I've seen the results of all three scenarios over and over in my career enough to despise each of them. Just because Kirk came along in the last few years making arguments against DEI doesnt mean he somehow thought all of it up out of thin air. Hiring people based on their race or gender is just as racist/sexist as not hiring people based on their race or gender no matter how many times the intelligentsia tells us otherwise.
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If a company is hiring just based on race/gender they are misapplying DEI***
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In my experience, you're correct based on what people SAY DEI is...
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it's supposed to be about making sure, in the context of jobs, that everyone has access to the jobs and the process is set up so as not to exclude anyone based on race, gender, etc...
However, in my experience, DEI normally ends up with measures that are de facto quotas.
I would concede that some of the DEI initiative is well-intentioned...some of it. But it very often gets perverted.
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No doubt. I totally agree with that.
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I doubt you'll find a perfectly run program of any kind, and they should be evaluated constantly to find and fix those issues. But that doesn't make the programs themselves a mistake.
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Have you ever seen one that did not measure outcome...
Sep 16, 2025, 8:25 PM
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But only opportunity? I haven't.
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Well, he's technically correct...sort of...
Sep 16, 2025, 6:59 PM
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it's implied that if they needed affirmative action to get in, then they got in because of their race. It then follows that that "spot" would have otherwise been filled by a white student or possibly an Asian student.
The only thing truly racist in this discussion is Affirmative Action!
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Yeah, no. The idea it's "stealing" a white person's "spot" is clearly racist
Sep 16, 2025, 7:41 PM
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Forcing equal opportunities is what the women implied by their needing affirmative action.
They didn't say they "earned" something or were owed something due to their race. The only one making that argument was Kirk.
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Affirmative action means that race is used as a criteria...
Sep 16, 2025, 8:24 PM
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Admittance. I don't see you can skin it any other way...of they need affirmative action to get in them they got in because of their race. Otherwise, they wouldn't have needed it.
What Kirk said is not racist as it follows a logical conclusion.
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It's not the ONLY criteria and the spots they "take" are not de facto for whites
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Saying what Kirk and you are arguing here is making the EXACT argument you're ascribing to Affirmative Action. That these spots are "white spots" not based on earning the spot, simply they are reserved already simply based on a person being "white".
That's not logical. That's racist.
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read the SCOTUS case and the Harvard piece...
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Affirmative Action for college admissions used race as a factor...clearly it's not the only factor for admission.
But logic says if someone claims that they wouldn't have been admitted without affirmative action...what does that really mean?
Effectively, it couldn't/shouldn't mean that they took a spot from another minority, because that minority would have been counted towards the quota. Right? Now...Harvard had revised their policy prior to the SCOTUS ruling to not have actual quotas and the SCOTUS confirmed their system didn't have quotas any more...but doesn't the same principle apply? If they wouldn't have been admitted without AA, then presumably race was their deciding factor that put their applications above others and the other couldn't have been a minority. If you think I'm wrong on that...explain how?
And again...I'm not making the statement from a racist perspective...I'm making it from a systemic perspective on how variables work.
I've never said I don't like AA because blacks take a spot from whites. I would say that race just shouldn't be a factor in admission...not because someone else is "owed" a spot BECAUSE of their race.
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"not the only factor for admission" is the key takeaway there.
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Even using your logic as stated, they wouldn't be taking the spot of a white person because if there's a quota, then white students already have their own quota in the school and are judged within that. And the whole Harvard SCOTUS case was based on the argument that asian-american students were being discriminated against because they should have been, by their judgment, a higher percentage of the students enrolled. In other words, it was from the perspective of asian students' spots being taken away that affirmative action was removed, not whites. Kirk and your arguments are objectively wrong.
My guess on the women's meaning in regards to Affirmative Action is that without the program, they were at a disadvantage due to the racism found within society at every level that prevents them from equality of opportunity. A balancing of the scales, not a tipping of one in their favor.
Their success in college and outside of it clearly points to them having the "brainpower" to be taken seriously, again proving Kirk's argument ridiculous.
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Because one of the core principles of Affirmative Action is recruitment
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Affirmative Action isn't just "lowering the standards" as you're asserting. It's making an institution welcoming to diverse populations so the best and brightest of different backgrounds want to attend your institution.
You're kidding yourself if you somehow think Charlie Kirk was brighter or more intelligent than Kenanji Brown-Jackson or Michelle Obama.
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You are doing yourself no favors with that last sentence.***
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It's the problem with being an actual racist
Sep 16, 2025, 8:52 PM
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In no way do I think Flow is that. I've always had good conversations with him
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He and I are clearly on different sides of this issue, and I do think that last sentence isn't great, but I respect him and his opinions on this. He isn't like some of the others on here whom I try not to engage with on these types of topics. He's one of the good guys on here.
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He's not. He just does a better job of hiding it at first
Sep 16, 2025, 9:35 PM
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but when you really press him on race and especially transgender issues, it slips out.
An actual good guy would easily say, "Charlie Kirk clearly crossed the line with racism. With that being said, we should have an honest conversation about affirmative action and its unintended impacts on ______. While well meaning and good in the ways it seeks to increase diverse populations through non-discriminatory actions it _______"
But that's not what Flow has done here. He's argued affirmative action is only about letting in unqualified minorities over qualified whites. Then followed it up that somehow Kirk is smarter than a Supreme Court justice.
You're falling into a trap of because he's not as bad as Keowee he must be a good one. But he's not Lincoln Chaffee. Those Republicans are basically non-existent these days.
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It's honestly absurd you would lie to an actual attorney
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about what Harvard argued in their case.
From Harvard's actual opposition filed with the Supreme Court.
Each year, Harvard receives more than 35,000 applications for its roughly 1,600-seat freshman class.
Pet.App.110. Most applicants have strong test scores and grades; to admit every applicant with a perfect
GPA, Harvard would need to expand its class fourfold and reject all other applicants, regardless of their other academic credentials, talents, or life experiences and perspectives.
Harvard has long devoted significant resources to race-neutral means to improve diversity. It provides one of the most generous financial aid programs in the country, requiring no loans and no contributions or only modest contributions from families earning $150,000
per year or less. Pet.App.113; C.A.J.A.1022:2-1023:8. It has extensive programs to encourage diverse students to apply and matriculate, including an Under graduate Minority Recruitment Program, which recruits African-American, Hispanic, Asian-American,
and other minority applicants.
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I have doubts you're actually an atty...or at least a good one...
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you can't even follow discussions on an internet message board.
I linked the Harvard piece which was written about the case. I did not claim Harvard admitted anything in their opposition AND they lost the SCOTUS case.
You do agree Harvard (and UNC) lost the SCOTUS case, right?
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/20-1199_hgdj.pdf
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This is the classic example of someone being too dumb
Sep 17, 2025, 9:17 AM
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To even realize how dumb they are.
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So, in your eyes, I'm a dumb racist...LOL...
Sep 17, 2025, 9:28 AM
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it's ok if you can't respond to assertions made, or admit Harvard was using race as a criteria of admissions and that's what AA means in terms of admissions, or that Harvard lost the case, or that the SCOTUS ruling confirms my point.
Better to just call someone a dumb racist and be done with it...LOL
And again...here I sit blaming myself for ever responding to one of your replies in the first place. No matter the subject, it always ends up right back here. I wonder if it's hit you that that only happens with you. hmm...
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You stated Harvard defined
Sep 17, 2025, 12:18 PM
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Then I posted quotes from their actual argument which shows you misrepresenting them.
Then you claimed you weren’t talking about their opposition (which is where they argued the case).
You just don’t even know enough to realize how foolish your argument sounds to knowledgeable people.
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I had a link to the dang article right below my statement dipsheet...
Sep 17, 2025, 12:50 PM
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seriously...you suck at this. Just give up and go read about gamecock football or something.
You just keep on and on and on and you're always missing the point and/or purposefully shifting it to something else. I've not seen you make a solid point or "win" an argument on here ever.
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LOL...I was thinking the same thing***
Sep 17, 2025, 12:50 PM
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Bruh... No on the last line
Sep 16, 2025, 10:22 PM
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And yes, from the evidence is have Charlie Kirk was smarter than these 4 women, but that really isn't the main point here.
Sorry. Charlie Kirk wasn't in the same stratosphere of intelligence as those women. All are Ivy League educated; Kirk made it one semester at Harper College before dropping out. Someone can claim affirmative action all they want, but you don't emerge from those universities successful if you aren't capable of slinging the big guns.
He was clever in debates against untrained opponents but he regularly got crushed by Dean Withers and others who were skilled at debate.
Sorry man. It's not even close.
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I disagree strongly...
Sep 17, 2025, 8:25 AM
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I have the feeling that you haven't heard him speak, in entirety, all that much.
The guy is pretty dang smart and very well educated on the subjects he speaks on. I think you haven't listened to him that much based on your comments about being college educated, as that's one of the key points he speaks on.
And I don't think he "regularly got crushed" by anyone. And I've watched most all of those debates.
Obviously we're in heavy opinion territory here as there no great way to "prove" any of this. But I'm confident that you are wrong...because Class09 agrees with you 
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I have. I'm not calling the man stupid.
Sep 17, 2025, 8:32 AM
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I do think Kirk was intelligent and well read. His bigoted comments and religious fallacies point to some problems and limits in intelligence, though.
I saw plenty where Kirk was the superior debater, but on an even platform against a similar opponent (again, like Withers), he often got mopped all over the floor.
But to think he's in the same realm as Michelle Obama is pretty ludicrous. You said based on the evidence you've seen that he's smarter than her, and this is where I ask for that evidence. And clips of him debating someone other than her won't count as evidence.
I've stayed out of this thread because I don't really think it matters much any more nitpicking the things Kirk said, but I'll say this: If a person insinuates that an intelligent woman got where she is because of the color of her skin, that's a racist statement. Period. And if that person is willing to go there in any case, he's likely a racist person.
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That's the point. HE DIDN'T SAY THAT....THEY DID...
Sep 17, 2025, 8:48 AM
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He didn't say they got in because of AA...these 4 black women said they did and he was commenting on that. So we're clear...did you understand that part when you made your comments (honest question)?
I 100% agree that thinking a black person got into or rose to some position just because they're black is racist...and any system that promotes someone BECAUSE of the color of their skin is equally racist.
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I'm operating off this quote
Sep 17, 2025, 8:59 AM
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"If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action? If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us... You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."
I'll stick with just Obama. First, he's taking her quotes out of context. I know which speech he's referring to. She said in that speech that she was afraid people assumed exactly the kind of things Kirk assumed while she was a student, but then she learned over time that she actually did belong among the Harvard elite.
Now let's pretend Obama said she only got in due to affirmative action. In that case, Kirk would have a point IF he had just stopped there. But the "brain processing power" and "had to go steal a white person's slot" is where he ##### it up. And I won't get into the first sentence about customer service.
So, all in all, that's a racist quote. Full stop.
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I'll have to see if I can find it again...
Sep 17, 2025, 9:13 AM
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but I don't believe that's what he's responding to. I remember looking it up at the time, but I'm not able to find it quickly now (on phone in plane . I "think" the 4 women mentioned came out in favor of AA and said they wouldn't have made it in the schools they went to without it.
I'll concede your point on this quote (except for maybe Joy Reid).
"You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."
See above on discussion on "slot"...which is only valid if they say they wouldn't have gotten in with AA. It not that the slot belonged to a white person (that would be ridiculous).
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"it's not that the slot belonged to a white person"
Sep 17, 2025, 4:49 PM
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That's exactly what Kirk is saying.
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Ring me when you post something worth reading....
Sep 15, 2025, 8:47 PM
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I very much believe what I posted, else I wouldn't have posted it. And I'm correct too!
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No. You're looking at the sky and saying, "it's not orange"
Sep 15, 2025, 9:04 PM
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When everyone being honest with themselves is thinking, "the sky is obviously blue."
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So he specifically names 4 women and yet...
Sep 15, 2025, 11:48 PM
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You think he was talking about all black women? Plus he was talking about those specific women saying they needed affirmative action to get into school.
Admit you don't know what you're talking about and then crawl away in all your wrongness.
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The thing is you don't even believe it
Sep 16, 2025, 8:02 PM
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so why would I believe it?
You think you're outsmarting racism accusations, but it's just highlighting that you're racist. It's not a good look.
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You're really bad at this***
Sep 17, 2025, 8:56 AM
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I'm confused on what's going on here.
Sep 15, 2025, 4:04 PM
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I'm not a JD Vance fan, but I also didn't hear Charlie Kirk say anything racist.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Not sure why he included Michelle Obama or SJL on his list but when Biden specifically says hes only gonna nominate a black woman to be his VP or for the SC he is making a pretty transparently racist/sexist statement. If anyone on the right ever freely admitted they were only gonna consider white men for a nomination I'd say the same thing.
And the odds are pretty slim that out of every candidate for either position the best, most qualified, most competent option is going to automatically be someone from a group that comprises about 6% of the population. Could it be? Sure, but its mathematically unlikely, which means ultimately you end up with people who are perceived to be DEI hires, especially when they sound like intellectual lightweight once in those roles.
Biden could have avoided this perception by keeping his plans to himself ahead of time but was so desperate for positive media coverage he let everyone know in advance about his racist plans which immediately, and unfairly, undermined confidence in his own selections.
If someone didnt have an issue with the biased and racist decision making process to fill these roles they shouldn't then get upset at people who notice and call out those same biased and racist decisions.
But I do agree that if Kirk had actually said all black women (instead of listing specific ones) that would have been impossible to defend. However he didn't so there you go.
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How about try to go three fkn posts without lying.
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Worthless.
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Is that the standard here?
Sep 15, 2025, 4:28 PM
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You post daily that Democrats shot Trump, when it was in fact a registered Republican. Clean up your own house before calling people liars, liar.
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Re: Is that the standard here?
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Why respond to him. We were doing so well. He lives for responses.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Now he's dead. So you don't have to worry about him saying things you don't like anymore.
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Why post this?***
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Re: Why post this?***
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Because of all the 'yeah but' reactions (like this one) on this site. Why bring up anything Kirk says at this point? He's been silenced. You'll never have to hear another word from him.
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Because his legacy is very much currently the major national story right now?***
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Re: Because his legacy is very much currently the major national story right now?***
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I thought the major national story was him being shot in the neck and bleeding out on stage.
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Who he was and what he stood for is why that's a national story...
Sep 15, 2025, 4:49 PM
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And why the Colorado school shooting that happened the same day, and the hundreds of other shootings that happened that day across the country aren't the national story, currently.
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Re: Who he was and what he stood for is why that's a national story...
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Because Chalie Kirk was known and duentonpolitics as.well. Charlie Kirk was a leader in the culture war. It is like asking why if some random high basketball player was assassinated that it wouldn't get the same press as if Michael Jordan was assassinated.
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in other words, "legacy"***
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Re: Why post this?***
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He might be more powerful in death. There will be others trying to make a buck like he did going after certain groups. There is a lot a money to be made.
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Re: Why post this?***
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Making money by going after certain groups seems to be the name of the game for media as a whole, at this point.
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Re: Why post this?***
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Definitely. It is all it is. That is where the money is. The fear and divisiveness is what sells.
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Re: Why post this?***
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Hopefully, they take all this talk seriously and dismantle the worst aspects of TPUSA, like the McCarthy-esque Professor Watchlist and Education Watchlist of people he disagreed with and decided to harass. All news stories now are about open debates on college campuses with no mention of the evil shyt they were doing on the internet. It never got much press, but the people he targeted have been harassed and received death threats for years. But it was all free speech, right *ssholes?
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How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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by an entire political party? How about because Trump has promised to bestow the Congressional Medal of Freedom on him? Or maybe because half a country wants to declare war on the other half because they believe him to be an upstanding Christian, who also openly espoused discrimination against minorities, women, and oppressed groups?
That's why people are still talking about him.
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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You think half the country wants to be involved in a civil war because of this? I haven't even seen one riot because of this. I have however, seen some of his vigils interrupted.
You think an ENTIRE political party thinks he's a martyr?
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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There are just a bunch of people talking about it to get people angry and fired up. Jesse Waters was just talking about civil war last week.
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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We aren't out of the woods yet. Timothy McVeigh waited two years for his revenge over Waco. Many right-wing mass murderers have waited for an anniversary or some other significant date.
There hasn't been as much random violence on minorities as there was in the first year of Trump's first term. I credit that to the fact that a lot of the perpetrators (Proud Boys AND Oath Keepers) started the year in prison or knew somebody who did.
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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Bigger problem. I'm afraid Trump is ordering the murder of those people on small boats (incapable of reaching the US, morons) to test how far the military will go in obeying illegal orders. When does he decide to try killing some US citizens? Anybody who thinks I'm fear-mongering can eat a fresh turd when he follows through.
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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He is sinking those boats for possibly running drugs. Nothing else.
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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Neither was capable of reaching the US. The military cannot be used for law enforcement. And most importantly, we don’t execute people for suspicion in this country anymore. Totally opposite of what America is supposed to be.
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Re: How about because he's been raised to the level of Martyr For The Cause
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by an entire political party? How about because Trump has promised to bestow the Congressional Medal of Freedom on him? Or maybe because half a country wants to declare war on the other half because they believe him to be an upstanding Christian, who also openly espoused discrimination against minorities, women, and oppressed groups?
That's why people are still talking about him.
I think the declaring of war is not by conservatives but more from your side
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Re: Why post this?***
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Because of all the 'yeah but' reactions (like this one) on this site. Why bring up anything Kirk says at this point? He's been silenced. You'll never have to hear another word from him.
Well, i think that deserves a big TU. Here ya go!
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To be fair, he didn't say "black women(as in all)"
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, he named four specific black women.
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Re: To be fair, he didn't say "black women(as in all)"
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Why just 4 black women? Why them anyway?
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He shouldn't have said what he said. I don't know if Kirk had access to the IQ results of any of these women? I doubt it.
It doesn't matter what he said. Louis Farrakhan has said terrible things about Jews and whites. Al Sharpton has never apologized for promoting the Tawana Brawley rape hoax and has made a living as a race hustler.
However, I would never celebrate or be happy if either man was harmed or killed.We are sick as a society.I'm glad I'm an old fart.
The WSJ reported that 93% of boomers think political violence is never acceptable. Gen Z-only 56% feel that way.
Kirk said a lot of inflammatory things, but we are a very sick society when we have people happy that he is dead
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Interesting, 56% of Gen Z men voted for Trump...
Sep 15, 2025, 7:33 PM
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weird coincidence.
56% opposed to violence and 56% voted for Trump-makes sense to me
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Incels, racists, and fake Christians voted for Trump. That got him to 49%. That's a lot of people headed straight to hell.
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Incels, racists, and fake Christians voted for Trump. That got him to 49%. That's a lot of people headed straight to hell.
You say you go to church but claim that people who voted for Trump are going to hell. That is a rude and totally stupid comment.
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Re: Interesting, 56% of Gen Z men voted for Trump...
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A great many of them are. When you ally with true evil, you forsake grace.
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Re: Interesting, 56% of Gen Z men voted for Trump...
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A great many of them are. When you ally with true evil, you forsake grace.
I am sure your views will not be the deciding factor as our Lord will make that decision.
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Your sick liberals. You have been brainwashed because you are ignorant.
These wealthy liberals just use you for their votes. Tell them how terrible the rich are for not paying enough taxes. How the liberal politicians will solve all of their problems. Let's create a fake race problem and let's take to the streets.
You are being used and abused and you are too ignorant to realize it.
Meanwhile conservatives are happy, working hard and enjoying life. We live in great areas with low crime. Until liberals move in and start killing and robbing us.
Quit being used and abused by the wealthy, open your eyes and see the truth.
TRUTH: You don't see conservatives moving to liberal infested areas. You do see liberals moving to conservative areas. TRUTH.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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I think you are projecting. So much hate you have. You have been brainwashed by the media. It is sad.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:09 PM
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I think you are projecting. So much hate you have. You have been brainwashed by the media. It is sad.
Look at post by liberal above who says all Trump voters are going to hell-that is as hateful as you can get
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:13 PM
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Maybe that person as well. Newman is still full of hate though. He is brainwashed.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
Sep 15, 2025, 10:16 PM
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Maybe that person as well. Newman is still full of hate though. He is brainwashed.
Then so is AustinPounders, will you agree and not with a maybe
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:19 PM
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Definitely. He is full of hate.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:22 PM
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Definitely. He is full of hate.
Thank you
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Fake Christians like you are ridiculous. Read someday the words of Jesus. Then try to reconcile ALL of those words with your MAGA heresy. ALL of it, not just the parts you like.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
Sep 15, 2025, 10:33 PM
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Why do you say I'm full of hate? I'm pretty sure you are using a little physiology here.
I've always respected your views on here because you seemed level headed even though we are on opposite sides of the political spectrum. I have zero hate and try to engage in honest dialog even if I disagree.
The hate is coming from people defending the killer of a good Christian man.
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Sep 15, 2025, 10:36 PM
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Sorry. Psychology.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
Sep 15, 2025, 10:38 PM
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You are full of hate when it comes to liberals. It is misguided and what you believe of liberals to be isn't factual. The vast majority and just regular people.
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Re: "Until liberals move in and start killing and robbing us." - Newnan
Sep 15, 2025, 10:54 PM
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Because you are a liberal so you are evil.
"Why do you say I'm full of hate?"
-Newnan
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Re: "Until liberals move in and start killing and robbing us." - Newnan
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
Sep 15, 2025, 11:08 PM
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It’s not ALL. But it is most.
Out Lord will be making that decision, not you.
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Sep 15, 2025, 11:15 PM
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It’s promising that you worry about it. Be better and renounce your false gods.
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Also, Vance is never beating the "weirdo" charges.
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The performative and cringe "hosting" of Kirk's show today was embarrassing and his reading of the ###### with his forced emotion just came off like he was a big weirdo.
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Re: "But he never even said those things!"
Sep 16, 2025, 6:50 PM
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His reference was tó specific individuals, not a race.
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