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Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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and Brent V. Got to try to duplicate them as much as possible.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 8:28 PM
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Riley can be that guy but Dabo is going to have to let Riley clean house, recruit his players for the system he runs call his own plays. I think that’s coming
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agree 100% with this and......
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Oct 22, 2023, 8:40 PM
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if Riley wants a WR from the portal........he should get one, or two.............or three.
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Re: agree 100% with this and......
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Oct 25, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Or a complete O.L because ours is junk.
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Hes not sticking around long enough for that.
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Oct 23, 2023, 12:29 AM
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And his decision to leave might not even involve a better job, or any job at all. Watch him at work (during games on the sidelines). As others have pointed out, he hates it here.
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Re: Hes not sticking around long enough for that.
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Oct 25, 2023, 6:57 AM
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I predict he’s gone after this year and Chad and Jeff Scott are back as Co OCs
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Re: Hes not sticking around long enough for that.
Oct 25, 2023, 11:31 AM
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Not sure about that. Too much "mailbox money" in jeopardy for both of them.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 23, 2023, 7:08 AM
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Riley was the ‘22 Assistant of the year. Exactly, he should walk in , say , “ Run my system, I want these assistants, or it’s time to move on, this ain’t gonna work. “
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 25, 2023, 10:41 AM
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It was said that Coach Venables after being at Clemson one season approached Dabo and said he didn't come to Clemson to coach a bunch of choir boys thereafter the defense excelled under Venables leadership.
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Oct 25, 2023, 11:29 AM
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 8:33 PM
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Yes, and not necessarily in that order.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 22, 2023, 8:38 PM
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Love to have Morris as QB coach working with Riley - these 2 could get this moribund offense moving again. Dabo's "offense" is what Morria brought with him.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 22, 2023, 8:43 PM
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Everyone complained when Morris was the OC and QB coach. They were ecstatic when Dabo hired Streeter to come in to coach the QB room.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 8:49 PM
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Everyone?
No way. There was a lot of questioning regarding Streeter.
What you saw/felt was blind hope because Clemson loves Clemson people until they see that more is needed.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 25, 2023, 8:49 AM
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Yes. See Tommy West. Supposed to be a Danny clone
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 25, 2023, 11:16 AM
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Tommy West was never supposed to win. He was brought in by Bobby Robinson (the worst hire ever made at Clemson) to appease the Danny Ford contingent. Worked out just as planned and got that vocal group off BR's back.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 25, 2023, 7:22 AM
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Then you have a short memory. Morris' last year, his offense was horrible and the fans were ready to run him out of town on the next train. Luckily he took his family and a case of Red Bull Bubble Gum to SMU before the bowl game against Oklahoma where Jeff & Tony ran the offense and even old Cole Stoudt was able to blow the Sooners out of the stadium. Last time, Clemson was more than ready for Morris to take his bubble gum chewing aspirin somewhere else. So be careful what you ask for.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 23, 2023, 7:13 AM
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Losing VENABLES biggest blow, , by far, to the program. Dang look at his passing game at OU. But anyway, Fantastic recruiter, could tell Dabo to back off if necessary , and aggressive. Sure he had off days ( Pitt’16, SC ‘18, OSU in ‘20 ) but who doesn’t. Wish he could have taken over for Dabo .
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 8:50 PM
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I'm gonna say BV and Dan Brooks. Maybe Brooks and Morris can be 2A and 2B. Reid is pretty good too.
Wish Hobby would have stuck around longer.
I suspect Terry Don Phillips had something to do with getting some of those guys hired. Particularly BV, being from the Big 12 and all.
I had high hopes for Caldwell but our OL never impressed me much while he was here.
It is a head scratcher how we can now have the most talented line we have had (according to recruiting rankings) in a long time but they are so ineffective on the field.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 8:59 PM
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We need to fire Grisham & Austin. Recruiting just isn’t there. I’m not sure Chad would come back in that capacity. Maybe after Chandler leaves TCU??
1. Try to hire Chad as QB coach like the person above said. Give Riley full reign of the offense. Maybe he and Riley could get the offense running again. 2. Hire Jeff Scott as Wide Receivers coach and recruiting coordinator 3. Go outside the program for Offensive Line coach. 4. Give Spiller one more year and if he doesn’t succeed with on the field development & recruiting… then see if Tony Elliot is sitting at home waiting for a call by then (maybe). 5. Strength and Conditioning coach needs to be re-evaluated.
As for defense, I’m just not sure at the moment. I think our defense is good but I just miss that fire BV had.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 9:24 PM
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Ever since Batson had his heart issues, it seems the strength and conditioning has taken a big step back. Especially on both lines, they don’t have that “look” they had just a few years ago, and not all of them were five stars.
Dabo needs to take a trip down 85 and throw a Brinks truck at Cochran at UGA; for the right price, he’d come.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 23, 2023, 1:06 AM
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Reminded me of: Joe Rogan, as a UFC commentator, "Chuck (liddell) with that 'look' in his eye".
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 23, 2023, 6:51 AM
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The Ice Man was scary in his prime.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 25, 2023, 7:25 AM
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DFORD81.....totally agree. I have been saying this for years now, actually ever since Joey had his heart surgery. Things changed physically and it is obvious to the objective eye.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 25, 2023, 2:04 PM
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I hate it for Joey because he is a great man, besides being an excellent coach, but what made him great was how hands-on he was, and the work he had done on his heart, he simply can’t be the same coach that he was.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:32 AM
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OLine recruiting is fine in my opinion (Top 300 talent per recruiting services). It’s a failure of that talent to materialize on the field that is the problem. It certainly looks like a development/coaching issue.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
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Oct 22, 2023, 11:04 PM
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Morris started out ok until other teams figured him out, then it got predictable like watching spenceball. Not a fan.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 22, 2023, 11:35 PM
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100% agree. Morris’s system could beat average to poor teams.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 23, 2023, 6:49 AM
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And then throw all the dazzle, dazzle and trickery that failed when you were running it down their throat. That crap cost us a W down at roach one year I remember.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 25, 2023, 7:28 AM
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1portroyalty........Amen. The late term Morris offense was worse than what we have now. You could call every play before it happened. Wen use to do it for fun during games. Morris became so conservative and predictable towards the end that we would be able to call 10, 15, 20 plays correctly in a row before they were run. Horrible.
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WERE not "was" G D it!!****
Oct 23, 2023, 12:58 AM
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Chad Morris is an analyst at Clemson.
Oct 23, 2023, 6:58 AM
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Nm
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Also, I'm pretty sure he left Chad alone and llet him run the offesnse.***
Oct 23, 2023, 7:15 AM
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 23, 2023, 7:30 AM
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So the theory put forth by a few and now many that Dabo’s whole theory of ‘next man up” coaching has been wrong on general principle has ample evidence to be considered. I remember in interview statements from years back when asked about staff and if Dabo knew what he would do if Morris or Venables left that he said “absolutely, we have a plan and everything is in place.” It does seem, at the very least, that promoting from within is a temporary solution-one to get through a season or hold a spot for awhile while decisons are made and offers considered. Perhaps Dabo inadvertently and in error began dismantling the program he assembled almost immediately. Its kind of understandable how he thought he was on the right path. The program seemed to cruise when Morris left, but now that seems to be attributed to a run of talent and chemistry. I would say “luck” as well because FSU imploded after Winston, UGA shed Richt retooled with Smart, The Ol’ Ball Sac left the poultry in a terrible lurch, Over rated Goofball was getting headaches on the sideline up in Ohio, and the only real competition was Nick Saban at Bama’ who was having troubles adjusting to mobile QB’s and getting his staff sold off, but luck is always there-teams just have to put themselves in a position to take advantage of it. Will Dabo reflect and realize that once you get a racing machine built you have to keep it running with high quality proven parts? I hope so. The Clemson Brand is now strong enough IMO to attract top coaching talent from around the country with absolute lyrics no ties to us. I do believe someone can look at this program and say “I want to bring back what Dabo had when he first brought everyone together.”
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Oh yeah Chad Morris would could never beat SCAR
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Oct 25, 2023, 6:55 AM
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And would always call a trick play whenever we had momentum against them
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 25, 2023, 12:05 PM
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Chad Morris was too prone to excitement, such as throwing long bombs on 3rd and 4. Game killing drives like what happened against Carolina last year. Instead of letting our running backs get the needed three yards, we would launch a low percentage throw which didn’t work. Also, the darn FUMBLES.
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Re: Best two hires Dabo ever made was Chad Morris
Oct 25, 2023, 12:05 PM
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Chad Morris was too prone to excitement, such as throwing long bombs on 3rd and 4. Game killing drives like what happened against Carolina last year. Instead of letting our running backs get the needed three yards, we would launch a low percentage throw which didn’t work. Also, the darn FUMBLES.
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