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Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
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Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:08 AM
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I don't care if he is 4'5" - Want to get back to seeing our RB's able to take it to the house on any given play. Just the threat will open up the offense. Wonder if Trevor Etienne is in the market for transfer portal.
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:17 AM
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We can if we just stop timing them after 35 yds...
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Well, Shipley runs in the 4:4's so there is that.
What's the matter you upset because you cant gripe and complain about DJ anymore?
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:23 AM
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I was simply making a joke to lighten the mood.
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:38 AM
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Sorry, no way is Shipley 4.4. Maybe in high school. But not able Shipley - runs tough as nails - he is Thunder - I miss Lightning. Etienne was Thunder and Lightning in one.
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 11:32 AM
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It’s not the 40 time that’s the most important, it’s the first 2 steps (acceleration). Those first 2 are what really pop through the line or make defenders miss their angle. Sometimes that shows on the 40 time, but not always.
Tavien Feaster comes to mind as someone who didn’t have a quick burst but fast track time.
Etienne, while fast top speed, was even quicker in his acceleration. Sammy’s burst was elite too.
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10 yard split****
Dec 10, 2022, 6:10 AM
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 12:39 PM
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Shipley is fast, and he might have even run 4.4 in street clothes but I've seen him caught from behind too many times to say he's 4.4 in pads. He is fast enough to bust big yardage plays but if there's a guy with similar speed anywhere close he gets run down. That's not saying he's a bad back, he's a great back and I love his power and no quit running style but he's not in the league of CJ or Etienne.
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 10, 2022, 10:11 AM
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Will Shipley does not run that, and anyone stating so has not watched him run the ball this season.
Will is shifty and has his positives, but breakaway speed is not one of them
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May be another year or two.
Dec 9, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Are Shipley and Mafah NFL talents? If not, could be 2 more years.
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 9, 2022, 10:24 AM
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Spiller was NFL talent, but probably not any more. He's gotta be mid 30s by now. In his day though he was 4.4 fast.
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 9, 2022, 10:26 AM
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Dude was a sub 4.4
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 9, 2022, 10:39 AM
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No he wasn't. Ellington actually ran a 4.61 at the Combine, which I'll agree was a bad time, but he was not a guy who was even close to running in the 4.3's.
https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=10186
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I always said running with pads vs without are 2 different
Dec 9, 2022, 11:01 AM
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things. Sure Ford was faster than Spiller on the track; but on the field with pads, Spiller carried the pads better and was faster.
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I just assumed he responded to the wrong post
Dec 9, 2022, 12:13 PM
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but understood what he meant, I think. No worries. quozzel knows far more about this stuff than I do.
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 9, 2022, 10:42 AM
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He pulled his hamstring on the run. Just watching them both, Shipley doesn't have the speed Ellington had.
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he was talking about spiller not ellington.
Dec 9, 2022, 11:12 AM
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Spiller was faster on the field than on a clocked 40 time. He was the fastest on the field i've ever seen. I think it was the adrenaline that made him sub 4.4
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you just proved i was right...so yeah***
Dec 9, 2022, 11:40 AM
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Re: you just proved i was right...so yeah***
Dec 10, 2022, 10:09 AM
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How does CJ running a 4.27 40 yard dash prove your point that he was faster on the field than during 40s? Are you suggesting he ran a sub 4.2 40 on the field? I agree CJ was the most electric player I've ever seen. He was truly lightning (as was Ford who was virtually identical in speed). But I think he was fast in both scenarios.
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 10, 2022, 10:44 AM
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Ellington ran a 4.49 stopwatch but ran a 4.51 at Pro Day. He definitely had poor time at Combine, he was faster than 4.6, and he could hit the hole with power and house it with speed.
I just don't think he ever got the praise he deserved at Clemson because he had Spiller in front of him for couple yrs.
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 10, 2022, 10:39 AM
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Correct! CJ was probably our fastest RB ever. The RB that was much faster than he ever got credit for was Andre Ellington.
Jacoby Ford was the fastest player I can confirm I have seen in person. I think Youngblood, Woolford and Chansi Stuckey were some of the fastest players I can recall.
Interesting sidenote: Chansi is WR coach at ND.
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Re: May be another year or two.
Dec 10, 2022, 5:14 PM
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Shipley does not have the size and strength to make in the nfl. Just my opinion. He’s great out of the backfield has a pass catch (great improvement this year), but he still gets blown up on pass protection.
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:26 AM
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Dude, guys like Travis Etienne and CJ Spiller do not just fall off of trees. There's a reason both of them were first-round draft picks at a position that doesn't usually produce first-round draft picks because the half-life of a RB in the NFL is so durn short.
Honestly, the guy Shipley most reminds me of is Andre Ellington, maybe even a little more physical. He's a complete back who's good in pass-pro, catches extremely well out of the backfield, slashes it north-south between the tackles, and sees the cutback lane extremely well and knows how to use blockers to set him up. And while he can hurt you with his speed, exactly like Ellington he looks like more of a sub-4.5 guy than a sub-4.4 guy, which are...rare. And Mafah reminds me of any number of guys I've seen come out of Alabama, or Nick Chubb at Georgia.
We've got two really, really good RB's who are going to be playing Sundays. Ask 99% of teams in America if they'd take a stronger version of Ellington and a guy like Nick Chubb, they'd absolutely take it.
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Re: Can we get a RB with 4.35-4.45 speed please
Dec 9, 2022, 10:30 AM
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Ellington was fast and more of a one cut guy. Don't remember him getting run down once he got free. Love Shipley, but lacks Ellington's home run ability.
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