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CU Guru [1595]
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Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:01 PM
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Feel like he deserved it more than Hunter.
Hunter is an incredible athlete don’t mistake me but what Jeanty has done this year, playing for Boise St nonetheless, is incredible.
Take Hunter off Colorado and they still probably finish the same.
Take Jeanty off Boise and there’s no way they’re a playoff team.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:05 PM
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I totally agree. Jeanty is a bad man with the football
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CU Guru [1595]
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:07 PM
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The dude is 132 yards away from breaking the all time single season rushing record. At Boise State. All while leading his team to the #3 seed in the CFP.
Seems like it shouldn’t really be a conversation honestly.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:20 PM
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Heisman isn’t the same award anymore. Used to go to the best player in college football. Now it goes to the one with the most hype. Hunter wasn’t the best at either position, receiver or defensive back stats wise. He could just play both and the Coach Prime hype machine did the rest.
In my opinion, Jeanty should have won it. But I also thought Lawrence and Watson should have as well.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 14, 2024, 9:22 PM
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Completely agree.
Colorado did everything they could to inflate Hunters stats to assure he wrapped up the Heisman and even put together essentially a PR team to campaign for it.
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National Champion [7996]
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Hunter was a baller, difference maker.a better argument
Dec 15, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Would be Hunter was a really good player but Jeanty was another level. When you act like Hunter was a fraud your argument loses credibility. The kid played on both sides of the ball and was the best player on the field in both phases. That’s pretty cool. And from what I’ve gathered he’s a great kid with really admirable character. Glad for him. He had me convinced when he said if he could do anything professionally he’d rather be a pro bass fisherman.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:24 PM
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I would have given to Jeanty, but they were both deserving.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:24 PM
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I agree, Jeanty definitely deserved it more. He’s way more important to his team than hunter is. Hunter isn’t even top three in either of the positions he plays. “Snaps aren’t stat”
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:25 PM
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He is a top 5 wr and top 20 db
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 14, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Hunter was literally one of the best WRs and best DBs in the ncaa. Like 2 players in 1. Jeanty did have an amazing year tho. He would have won almost any other season.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:31 PM
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You take Hunter off of that team and they are just about the same team.
Take Jeanty off of Boise and are they still the #3 seed in the playoffs?
Like I said, I won’t argue Hunter being incredibly talented. But Jeanty is about to break a nearly 40 year old record.
The award is supposed to go to the most deserving player and I find it hard to argue that Jeanty isn’t the most deserving player in CFB.
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Why would you assume they're the same team without him?
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:56 PM
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Losing one of the best cover corners in the country and one of your top WRs would be a pretty big blow IMO.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 10:18 PM
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Has anybody in 40 years had 4 ints and 14 receiving TDs? The kid is top 7 in pass deflections and 2nd in recieving TDs. That is not heard of. Jeanty is an amazing offensive player. Hunter is an amazing offensive player. Hunter is also an amazing defensive player. Take Hunter off Colorado and they are not 9-3. Not saying Jeanty isn't amazing. Both players have had years not seen in my lifetime.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 14, 2024, 10:32 PM
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There are a lot of guys who have athletic enough tobolsy both ways and excel. Mist of them just don't have coaches dumb enough to do it.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
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Dec 14, 2024, 10:41 PM
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There are not a lot of guys that could be a top 20 DB and top 5 WR. This is just idiotic of you to say dude.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 15, 2024, 7:37 AM
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You're on drugs if you think Colorado doesn't still go 9-3 without Hunter. They have a top 5 QB. Hunter missed games and Sheduer never missed a beat. If your team has a top tier QB you always stand a chance.
So many athletes can do what Hunter did, but they aren't given that opportunity by their head coaches. You have 5 star Athletes that play both ways, you think they'd magically just suck or become mediocre at one side of the ball?
Jeanty single handedly carried a team into the playoffs and almost beat the #1 team in the nation dang near by himself. Who did Hunter stress like that by himself?
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 15, 2024, 10:19 AM
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I think Jeanty is more important to his team but I do not think Colorado is 9-3 without Hunter. He was a top 5 wr. That isn't just filled with the next guy up like u are trying to assume.
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National Champion [7996]
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But Jeanty played in a non power 4 conference.
Dec 15, 2024, 10:24 AM
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That’s why he didnt get it. Do that in a power 4 with like talent and defensive coaches on the other side and you more than likely don’t acquire all these yards. And if you do, then you win the Heisman. This is the obvious issue.
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:37 PM
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I feel like you could take many elite wr’s and have the play cb for Colorado and they would have similar stats
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 14, 2024, 10:20 PM
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Yup that's why it happens every season right? Maybe you are right tho.
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National Champion [7728]
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Re: Colorado Loses A Couple More Games Without Hunter***
Dec 14, 2024, 9:25 PM
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everything about Colorado is contrived, just a hype train and
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:48 PM
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no one will be talking about Colorado in 5 years
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I still feel sorry for Trevor.
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:53 PM
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That canceled game at FSU and positive “Covid” test cost him the Heisman
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CU Guru [1508]
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Hunter is THE BEST college football player
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:55 PM
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I’ve ever seen. I don’t understand how you guys who’ve watched the games can refute that. Is dude from Boise better than Ricky Williams, Eddie George, or Reggie bush? Nah. And they only played offense.
Glad Hunter won.
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Orange Phenom [14587]
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I think it's mostly because he plays for Colorado
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Dec 14, 2024, 9:58 PM
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and alot of people here don't like Deion or Colorado.
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Re: Hunter is THE BEST college football player
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Dec 14, 2024, 10:43 PM
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People are crazy hating on Hunter. Acting like almost any player could play both ways. That's idiotic. The dude is amazing. He would be a 1st round draft pick at either position.
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Re: Hunter is THE BEST college football player
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Dec 15, 2024, 7:38 AM
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Dudes no where near the best college football player you've ever seen you're just sucking down the hype koolaid
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Its not an MVP award***
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Dec 14, 2024, 10:28 PM
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Paw Warrior [4795]
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Re: Its not an MVP award***
Dec 15, 2024, 7:42 AM
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It's a popularity award now that's influenced by social media much more than people would like to admit.
Idk how you can ignore it being given as an mvp award when more often than not QBs win it, they are almost never the best total football player in the country, but they are usually the most valuable. A precedence has been set by 20+ years of giving out the award as if it were an MVP.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 15, 2024, 4:45 AM
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Hunter is clearly the best player and deserved the award. Jean5y is great too.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 15, 2024, 6:02 AM
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I can remember when awarding the Heisman was prime time news, now it a passing stat. Has always been given too early butt really showed its stupidity when #4 was snubbed and went on to win the Natty. #16 snub wasn't quite as bad because of the covid crap when the whole world went into a tail-spin.
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Re: Feel bad for Ashton Jeanty
Dec 15, 2024, 6:33 AM
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He needs to transfer to a P4 team. It’s just not the same in the MWC
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Plus Jeanty is about to break records.
Dec 15, 2024, 8:14 AM
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but how many more games?
Love the running back and he will do well in the league but he will fall in the pack with other ‘good’ backs.
On the other hand Hunter will be a shutdown corner with a good team.
He is very deserving of the 2024 Heisman!
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Re: Plus Jeanty is about to break records.
Dec 15, 2024, 9:17 AM
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He won't be a corner in the NFL. They will want him at wr, and that position gets paid more as well.
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I think he's a better corner than WR
Dec 15, 2024, 9:32 AM
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It will be interesting to see what NFL teams decide to do with him.
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Re: Plus Jeanty is about to break records.
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If an NFL team wants to take advantage of his two-way ability, I think it'd be easier to be a full-time CB and get sprinkled in at WR.
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