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Senate hearing about (false) govt narrative - COVID vax safe & effective
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This article contains the 3 hour 10 minutes Senate hearing.
It is damning to the Biden Handlers Administration’s obfuscation of evidence about the COVID vax’s several ‘adverse events’ and of the govt’s intimidation of medical professionals who dared to speak their conscience instead of cow-towing to the government’s ’safe and effective’ narrative.
Thank heavens that the crimes of the Biden Handlers Administration are being exposed.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/covid-vaccine-safe-effective-narrative-collapses-camera/
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Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
May 22, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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That is a very big problem for me. He knew there were safe and effective alternate treatments available. Yet let the that fraud Fauci, crazy medicine lady Birx, nutjob Walensky, and the whole medical industrial complex drive fear #### during the scamdemic is a pretty big matzah ball to swallow. He had one chance at redemption for me and that was pulling that poison the minute he took office. But it is still made available and he has to own it. Letting that psy-op play out is a huge thorn in my side. Atleast he didn't mandate it but it should have never been allowed to be in the first place.
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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May 22, 2025, 12:41 PM
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When you say "scamdemic" does that mean you don't believe COVID exists, or was an issue? What do you mean by "scamdemic"?
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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May 22, 2025, 12:46 PM
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Is it even a remote possibility that the people who spent their lives learning, studying, researching, virology, immunology, public health, may have a better sense of the issue than you or random Twitter accounts? Or the legion of PhDs and MDs who all stand by the risk/benefit analysis of vaccines?
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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May 22, 2025, 1:17 PM
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No sir. Those people have all been hypnotized by the Lizard King.
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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May 22, 2025, 1:19 PM
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Before this place would hire me I had to swear a blood oath to moloch
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
May 22, 2025, 1:23 PM
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And that's why you are pro vaccine for children. I rest my case.
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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Sadly, far T many medical professionals have proven to be arrogant and lazy. Their mpressive medical training and experience, ironically, has encouraged within them the hubris of infallibility. This hubris encourages them to ‘rely in their professional intuition’ as opposed to putting forth the effort to actually read with a critically engaged mind whether CDC’s published COVID-19 death stats and the stats regarding the COVID vax safety.
Here are the whoppers from the CDC that would have gotten attentive medical professionals who had modest education in statistics prior to medical school to become skeptical of the CDC’s claims.
(1). COVID deaths by month, comparing 2020 vs 2021. NYT (to their credit) had reported that, as the flu season reached full steam in 2020 (their data range covered the entire calendar year, with Nov & Dec being the most noteworthy), that deaths from COVID-19 in NY City had soared. However, deaths from the flu had disappeared. A year later, the CDC provided a comparative chart for COVID deaths in mid / late Q1-2022 that showed deaths from COVID-19 in 2021 had declined vs COVID-19 deaths in 2020, whereas the flu death totals were ~ same as in previous years.
Guess what the CDC did? They excluded death stats from the months of Nov and Dec for both 2020 and 2021. By doing this, the CDC hid (by omission) the absurdity of flu deaths essentially disappearing in Nov and Dec 2020, As explained above, doing this concealed the fallaciously high COVID deaths -&- facetiously low flu deaths in the heart of flu season in both years. Thus, the CDC had to eliminate the embarrassingly absurd data from Nov & Dec in order to create what looked like a legitimate data set that showed the COVID vax as being effective.
I distinctly remember explaining to one of TNet’s bright and honest liberals spooneye® the lawyer) about how these data sets from the NYT showed a complete data set, whereas the CDC cherry picked the data points to create an ‘honest’ chart that exaggerated the dangers of COVID-19 and simultaneously inflated the benefits of the COVID shot. Even a brigh5 guy like Spooneye missed that clever CDC misrepresentation.
(2). COVID vax safety. CDC generated a chart that showed the safety of COVID vax. Their own data showed a spike in deaths within the first two weeks after the shot was given. Yet, the CDC, relying in their intuition rather than the ‘science,’ opined that the spike in deaths between Time 0 and Time 14 days as being due to COVID-19 itself. The CDC’s not-science intuition was that the vax itself, within the first 14 days after being administered, did not have time to create an effective antibody response; therefore, it was COVID-19 rather than the COVID-19 vax that was responsible for the deaths.
Any physician worth his salt, had he paid attention to the data and not lazily accepted what the government non-science authorities had recommended to the AMA, would have questioned the safety of a vaccine that had been FDA ‘approved’ only under a legal immunity clause of the EUA (Emergency Use Inly) loophole. Such a BS ‘intuition’ conclusion by the CDC regarding excusing the spike in deaths within the first 14 days after administration of getting the shot (there was a ~ Gaussian curve of deaths in the first 14 days, with the death totals peaking AFTER day-2) should have, at the least, aroused suspicion in an attentive physician who put forth the effort to learn more about the biggest threat to American health since the Spanish flu pandemic of ~100 years prior.
The Senate hearing has exposed the FDA’s and CDC’s fraud, and also exposed hundreds of thousands intellectually lazy physicians. To this day, the (steadily decreasing) numbers of still-defending the EUA approved COVID vax plus COVID boosters continue to expose themselves.
BTW, my formal education required enough statistics training (nothing extensive as with a professional statistician, but the level of statistics training that is associated with a STEM or Finance / Economics education) to recognize these easy-to-identify cherry-picked data frauds from the CDC. Also, I am not a medical professional, nor am I in the field of pharmaceuticals.
Tell us. What was your undergrad degree? That might explain your lack of familiarity with basic statistics. If your undergrad degree was in a math heavy major, then your excuse must be laziness.
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Glad our resident medical expert chimed in.***
May 22, 2025, 7:35 PM
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Re: He's a literal MD you moron.***
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And the Dr who sent me home from the ER with a “stomach bug” right before my appendix perforated (on way back out to truck) was a MD.
My family Dr was rabidly pro vax. He now admits he was wrong. He blames the vax for giving one of our friends (we all went to school together) Myocarditis.
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Re: He's a literal MD you moron.***
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And it also bugs My family doctor that our other friend, who began using Ivermectin early on to treat Covid, never lost a patient after he started using it. As My Dr said, “It may be a coincidence, but it’s a Hell of a coincidence.”.
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Re: He's a literal MD you moron.***
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CharlestonTiger15® really believes, because of his numerous studies in which statistics were not a part, he was magically infused with an understanding of statistics.
^^^^that^^^^ is the epitome of hubris.
Because he does not understand more than the very basics of statistics other than mean and median, he is not equipped to understand a statistical discussion regarding how a ‘statistically derived conclusion’ can be manipulated by specious use of cherry picked data points.
He is either:
(1). Too lazy (incurious) to recognize and subsequently attempt to acquire the basic understandings of the subject matter
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(2). Still too proud to admit to recognizing the gradually rising tide of information that the COVID vax was purposely misrepresented by those same ‘health authorities’ (such as the AMA, FDA, CDC, etc) upon which he relies to do his thinking for him.
(*). Depending upon others to do his thinking for him, it will not be before those health agencies (those that he reads and from which he takes every word as gospel) finally admit to being wrong back in 2021 through 2024 about the safety and efficacy of the COVID vax + COVID boosters that he will MTA (Make The Adjustment). At that time, he will ‘preserve’ his reputation by stating that ‘well, we know more now than we did back then’ to excuse his current state of intellectual sloth.
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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I double majored in Public Health and Philosophy and took extra chemistry, physics, organic, anatomy, etc as those were med school prerequisites. Then I went to medical school, did 5 years of residency, and a year of fellowship. I’m literally reading a journal right now, this month’s edition of SOARD.
Tmail me your address and I’ll send you the textbooks I read in med school, then once you’ve read those I’d be happy to have a conversation about vaccine science with you, and you can tell me more about how lazy and arrogant I’m being for not buying into vaccine conspiracies spread by disgraced grifting physicians who are fleecing the gullible.
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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Where’s the math?
I betcha that your Physics class was the non-calculus based one.
Organic chemistry is great, but not math centric.
Even in FR chemistry, there were meaningful distinctions between the math-heavy Chemistry 112 and the math-light Chemistry 102.
Nothing in the coursework that you summarized indicated classes that required anything other than token work in statistics.
That is why I consider your comments about understandings of vaccine safety information from the government, which falsely offer conclusions that are not supported by their own data, as being made by a person full of hubris but empty as far as an understanding of the math behind the subject matter.
Educated people who have educational background which require some modest levels of stats work recognize things that your educational background didn’t provide to you. That is obvious from your inability to defend the merits of your argument. All you’ve got is to say ‘I’m a physician; therefore I know about medical research … because someone else has done my thinking for me.’
Physicians indeed are magnificently educated in the large variety of applying standard medicines and medical procedures that have been recommended (or mandated) to them by the official medical authorities. But those medical oractiti9ners who do no5 have backgrounds in math-centric undergrad studies, they are typically unable or uncomfortable in making arguments in which stats are involved. The arrogant ones among that subset defer to the ‘I’m a doctor so I know everything better than non-doctors’ argument to escape their deficiencies.
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Not going to take him up on the textbook offer?
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May 23, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Why don't YOU tell us what your actual expertise is, because you've proven to be one of the dumbest people on this board. You just use more words to show it.
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Re: Trump commissioned Operation Warp Speed & approved vax safe & effective***
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Tmail me your address and I’ll send you the textbooks I read in med school, then once you’ve read those I’d be happy to have a conversation about vaccine science with you, and you can tell me more about how lazy and arrogant I’m being for not buying into vaccine conspiracies spread by disgraced grifting physicians who are fleecing the gullible.
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The nerve to accuse others of hubris***
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I'm not sure what historians will point to specifically...
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For the cause of the downfall of America, but surely the new idiotic widespread mistrust and conspiracies against the medical community will be one of the leading candidates.
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Re: I'm not sure what historians will point to specifically...
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The thing is though, these dingdong are just bluffing. The second they are hurt or sick or need surgery they come running and crying to hospitals and doctors. Look at SOLOS. They are just impossibly dug in on this stupid vaccine conspiracy crap because they made vaccines a liberal plot.
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Re: I'm not sure what historians will point to specifically...
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SOLOS doesn't even know what he believes in or why. He latches on to positions if certain people oppose them or if certain people support them. He's desperate to be the cool kid in a gaggle of idiots.
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Re: Lulz.
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Trump-45 naively believed what the (crooked) FDA had told him.
Same as with the crooked FBI, DoJ, and CIA that reported to him. He got bad advice as to who he should hire (thanks, Reince Preibus and later, Chris Christie) I.e., deep staters to whom Trump represented a huge threat to the corrupt federal government infrastructure that enriched the high level people who led their agencies.
Trump-47 had learned (the hard way) that he got purposely bad advice from most of his Trump-45 era cabinet. He’s cleaning house (but still hasn’t avoided unhelpful people who have their own [i.e., not America First] agendas).
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There's a lot of dumb in this post, but let's start with the first sentence.
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You believe the FDA told Trump that putting bleach or ultraviolet light in the human body would kill coronoavirus, and he was merely repeating this? You're firing in all directions after that first statement, but let's start there.
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you are an effing idiot for believing that
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The echo chamber took that chit out of context and, of course, have no critical thinking skills to understand that.
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So he didn't say sunlight and disinfectant would kill coronavirus?
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He also said it would be over by April.
You know, its OK to admit that Trump is FOS.
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How safe and effective is the measles vaccine?
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May 22, 2025, 12:50 PM
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All that you MAGA idiots wanna do is talk about the past to cover up how sheety this administration is. RFK Jr is spreading misinformation that is killing children; let's worry about stopping that.
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^^^insane cult^^^***
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You're finally right those anti-vax luddites like RFK are demented***
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Re: You're finally right those anti-vax luddites like RFK are demented***
May 22, 2025, 7:18 PM
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Dear geech72®,
Your porch light is on, but nobody’s home.
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Boom roasted!***
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Why did Trump have such a terrible vaccine created?***
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Re: Why did Trump have such a terrible vaccine created?***
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He’s in on the globalist plot to depopulate the world, it’s obvious really
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But he's in the white hat club to save the children from the devil!***
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Re: But he's in the white hat club to save the children from the devil!***
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You see, Trump KNEW the dangers, but he ALLOWED it to be released in order to EXPOSE the government plot. It’s all part of The Plan.
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Re: But he's in the white hat club to save the children from the devil!***
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Operation Bigly, I believe it was called. I feel I have said too much.
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LOL. Mr. Kory isn't even a doctor. Jesus, how dumb are maga?***
May 22, 2025, 7:15 PM
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Re: LOL. Mr. Kory isn't even a doctor. Jesus, how dumb are maga?***
May 22, 2025, 7:31 PM
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Be kind.
PBT can’t help it.
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Re: LOL. Mr. Kory isn't even a doctor. Jesus, how dumb are maga?***
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Mr. Kory understands statistics.
Sadly, it has become obvious that hundreds of thousand medical professionals are neither well enough educated in statistics nor are intellectual y curious enough about the biggest pandemic in a century to look beyond the propaganda that the federal government influenced AMA has spoon fed them.
Now that the big lie about the COVID vax is being exposed and medical researchers and pharma industry whistleblowers feel safe to reveal what they know about the criminality of their employers, at least some from among the set of the previously intellectually incurious medical professionals are privately recognizing that they were duped into pushing dangerous vaccines on their patients. Then, there still remain the ‘I will never admit that I was wrong about the COVID vax’ crowd. One of them has posted on this very thread.
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Re: But he's in the white hat club to save the children from the devil!***
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Cognitive dissonance. I would have it as well if I took that jab.
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Cow towing
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We are living in a unique time when
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it has become very difficult to find ground truth through the forest of misinfo, disinfo, and lies propagated by various groups with different motivations.
Who do you believe? Who do you trust?
I know one thing for sure - I do not trust any left-wing democrat who is emotionally invested in their pet issues. They have turned into the equivalent of religious zealots or jihadists, where irrational thinking has replaced common sense.
There are plenty of nutjobs on the right as well, but there is a fundamental difference - these people are not aligned against freedom and do not occupy positions at the top of the republican party.
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You mean like tariffs?
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The DJIA was almost back to where it was on 1/2/2025.
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MAGA hates freedom.
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Hence why they tried to stop a free and fair election, and are currently seeking retribution for free speech they disagree with.
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Re: Senate hearing about (false) govt narrative - COVID vax safe & effective
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The FDA will not require the vaccines to have warning labels that they can cause heart conditions for kids who get the vaccine. This has been a known issue literally since the vaccines were widely introduced to everyone except left wing trash who were as clueless as usual. Im sure this warning label will trigger the little snowflakes. Must be difficult being clueless every single time.
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Clemson Conqueror [11629]
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Re: Senate hearing about (false) govt narrative - COVID vax safe & effective
May 23, 2025, 11:53 AM
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Yet, even in the TNet board with posters in this thread, we have at least one physician who refuses to get his mind around the vax safety catastrophe.
Too unskilled in the area of data analysis to make a reasoned judgment; too full of hubris to admit it.
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Oculus Spirit [40061]
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Re: Senate hearing about (false) govt narrative - COVID vax safe & effective
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May 23, 2025, 12:17 PM
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You don’t know shit about dick amigo, just know I’m dying laughing reading the crap you post here.
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Clemson Conqueror [11629]
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Re: Senate hearing about (false) govt narrative - COVID vax safe & effective
May 23, 2025, 12:54 PM
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You opened yourself to the criticism.
Now, you’ve been exposed as someone who believes that there is transference from your extensive knowledge about one subject to a different subject in which you are deficient from the education & experience facets.
Thus, your only defense, as per your MO, is to make valid attacks.
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Tiger Titan [48903]
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You didn't expose him on sh!t
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May 23, 2025, 1:01 PM
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You have been spouting conspiracy nonsense and pretending you actually know what you're talking about.
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Clemson Conqueror [11629]
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Re: You didn't expose him on sh!t
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May 23, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Go get your shine box.
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Clemson Icon [27291]
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Re: You didn't expose him on sh!t
May 24, 2025, 7:40 AM
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Weird dude.
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