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How many of you who are critical of Trapp declaring for the

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 2:53 PM
 

NBA Draft and entering the transfer portal even realize that he was a senior this past season?

I am shocked to read these comments here about him "jumping ship" and questioning his true loyalty to Clemson and Coach Brownell.

Again, he's a SENIOR. He will have a Clemson degree. The only reason he has an option to play next year, should he choose to accept it, is if he wants a fifth year that all athletes who were eligible this past season have the option of taking.

Only on TigerNet, where we have our own pandemic of unreasonable and misinformed basketball fans, do we have a player and his coach being criticized for doing what any reasonable person in his situation would do.

I really hope my sarcasm meter is in need of repair, and all of these posts freaking out about Trapp "jumping ship" are satire.

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Re: How many of you who are critical of Trapp declaring for the

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 2:56 PM
 

Totally agree. Nothing wrong with what he’s doing. He is not abandoning his team.

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So than why

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:01 PM
 

doesn't he just play his "bonus" season at Clemson where they could use any warm body they can get right now? So quick to defend, but it's evident he doesn't want to play for Brownell, this has got nothing to do with being critical of the player from my view, but he's the one saying what he said and opting for greener pastures which he obviously doesn't believe is within the Clemson Basketball program right now.

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Re: So than why


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:05 PM
 

He’s used his 4 years of eligibility. Now he has an option for a “free year”. Could it be he’s interested in grad school at another school? I have no idea but remember these kids are still students.

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Re: So than why


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:07 PM
 

Do you honestly think that any of the sports players who transfer for a grad degree care about the degree?

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Re: So than why

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:20 PM
 

Yes. I’m one of them. Of course my eligibility had been used up. I’m just saying it’s possible. You might be right that it’s not the most likely.

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Did/do you have the same feelings when DW4 or TL left

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:09 PM
 

with one year remaining? Heck Trevor could have had two more years. The young man has a opportunity only to make a lot of money at the next level. Would you have stayed at Clemson?

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Re: Did/do you have the same feelings when DW4 or TL left

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:11 PM
 

Trapp does not have the opportunity to make any money at the next level.

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Re: Did/do you have the same feelings when DW4 or TL left

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:28 PM
 

Sure he does. There’s more professional ball than just the NBA.

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He doesn't shoot well enough to play in the NBA IMO...

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:03 PM
 

particularly FT's, and he's not big enough or a strong enough presence inside to overcome that deficiency.

I suspect he'll be back for another season.




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If he doesn't make it to the NBA it sounds to me..

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:05 PM
 

that entering the transfer portal sets him up to play for another college team, not Clemson. Of course he could change his mind, but seems like he is setting the stage to play elsewhere. If he plays college ball next year, I think it should be at Clemson.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:07 PM
 

Bottom line is we just aren't that set up either way. Sure he can go, but the program as of now is in shyart shape. That's today though. We may build it up next week with transfers. That will work. We are a mess today though.

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Regardless, we need to light it up on the transfer portal

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:08 PM
 

or we are in deep do do next year.

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Agreed.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:28 PM
 

But Trapp wasn't ever part of next year's plan.

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Re: Agreed.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:19 PM
 

That’s irrelevant. We’re not talking about whether or not we are sticking to a plan. We are talking about an individual player’s decision and preference not to come back even though he has the choice to do so, and we all clearly know he is not on his way to an NBA career.

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Trapp is doing what any intelligent college basketball player

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:10 PM
 

in 2021 would do. He is keeping all of his options on the table while he figures it out.

It’s amazing that anyone who is a true Clemson basketball fan would try to spin this as a negative. Don’t worry though, I don’t think you are a fan.

Also, has it occurred to you that he might not have the option to return to Clemson and be guaranteed his starting role?

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Right...You are the only true Clemson basketball fan.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:20 PM
 

I don't even want Clemson Basketball connected to you. You're a fool.

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Re: Right...You are the only true Clemson basketball fan.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:24 PM
 



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I like that your defense mechanism is gifs.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:33 PM
 

Reminds me of my 8 year old nieces.

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Gifs are a lot nicer than the name-calling you often resort to.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:59 PM
 

I’ve tried having discussions with you and you either ignore my points entirely, make up stuff I didn’t say, or call me a name.

If you want to discuss basketball, let’s. But if you just want to criticize our program, please don’t bother.

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Re: Trapp is doing what any intelligent college basketball player


Posted: Apr 1, 2021, 9:39 AM
 

Trapp is the fourth player in a week that had the opportunity to play for Clemson next year and instead chose to leave the team. Are you really too stupid to recognize that is a trend?

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:09 PM
 

DUH ;>p

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Re: How many of you who are critical of Trapp declaring for the

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:25 PM
 

I think it is funny (ina sad way) that folks want more "talent" and then also bemoan when a player opts for the NBA draft.

The more "talent" the sooner a player opts for the NBA.

My thing is this, as a graduate, you can do anything one dang-well pleases. That is a Clemson man!

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Re: How many of you who are critical of Trapp declaring for the

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 3:43 PM
 

Sounds like a guy that doesn’t like Clemson or brownell

https://twitter.com/ctrapp_0/status/1377326853694820354?s=21

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 4:38 PM
 

THE MORONS AND IDIOTS AND DWEEBS ON THIS BOARD KNOW NO BOUNDS.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 7:10 PM
 

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:07 PM
 

Why does he not come back his 6th year for Clemson if don’t make NBA like Washington is for Lady Tigers Choosing to play for another team other than Clemson What does that say

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:09 PM
 

Judge your stance here is unbelievably ridiculous even for you. Can you not see the vast difference in how many people love to come back and play extra seasons in our football program and for Dabo compared to the complete opposite reaction by basketball players who have the same option?
Come on man.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:17 PM
 

Judge can not face reality with Brownell for some reason We have to believe we can win it all and that can not be done with Brad I’m tired of looking at us shoot a 3 and then there are 4 of the other team rebounding and we have no one in sight Cliff Ellis had a great high low inside game but I’ve never seen an inside game with Brad Basketball always has and always will be won or lost as football in the trenches inside with physical play

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 7:00 PM
 


Judge your stance here is unbelievably ridiculous even for you. Can you not see the vast difference in how many people love to come back and play extra seasons in our football program and for Dabo compared to the complete opposite reaction by basketball players who have the same option?
Come on man.



Do you seriously not realize that there are a million other factors to consider with trapp potentially transferring?

He has defended brownell a lot. If he doesn’t go overseas, he has the chance to play a year of basketball anywhere in the country.

Also not to mention that his minutes might decline next year. We have 3 guards coming back (as of now) that are significantly better offensively than he is.

Nobody thought he was coming back next year. This is fake outrage to blame on brownell. Grow up.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 7:10 PM
 

I'm not saying Trapp is making a bad decision. I'm saying his decision is an additional data point in reflecting on the status of our program.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:13 PM
 



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Exactly...Yet Judge Keller say "all is right"


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:35 PM
 

"Nothing to see here". LMAO!

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This is one of your most ridiculous takes so far.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:12 PM
 

Please tally up the Clemson football players who have returned for an extra year, as well as those who have left school early despite having eligibility remaining.

I’ll wait.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:52 PM
 

Judge, I get what you are trying to say but your arguement is flawed. Trapp is not leaving for millions of dollars, he is leaving for UNCG (or the like, just using Newman's school). Nobody blames Trevor for leaving early because he is leaving for major cash, not another school. I'm not saying you are wrong but you are making the wrong arguement. You should be sticking to that he may be wanting to go to a school that specializes in what he is wanting to get another degree in. Fallacies only weaken an arguement. Stick to what's actually relevant and people may take you a bit more seriously.

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You’re missing the point.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:04 PM
 

The guy/gal above was portraying anyone who leaves the basketball team with eligibility left, regardless of the reason, as abandoning the team.

To point out how ridiculous that is, I asked about football players leaving early. The reason why doesn’t matter in the case of his/her blanket statement.

In case you haven’t noticed, the entire argument about Trapp is ridiculous, and intended solely to criticize the program. Many of these people acting like Trapp leaving is a huge loss were the same ones who bashed him for the last four years.

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Re: You’re missing the point.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:10 PM
 

I agree with the last part about people being critical of Trapp. However, he showed some b#$#z, excuse me..."resolve", in the tournament and was obviously a leader, even if not overly talented. Just suggesting that you stick to the right argument, even if others don't. In another post, you argued back and forth forever before you even realized he had also entered the portal.

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I knew he entered the portal.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:17 PM
 

To me, it doesn’t matter whether we are talking about declaring for the draft, entering the portal, or going overseas to play basketball. He has done his four years, will have a Clemson degree, and is in no way “bailing on the team” to go elsewhere.

I appreciate all that he has done for Clemson and wish him the best regardless of what he decides.

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Re: Nobody blames Trevor for leaving early

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:11 PM
 

Neither Trevor not Trapp is leaving Clemson early. They are both leaving as graduates. While it is not the norm, people can finish in 3 years, especially when they have been around for a few summer sessions.

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We should not be critical of Trapp for testing the waters.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 5:51 PM
 

He has not signed with an agent, so he could in theory come back if not selected in the draft. (I don't think he will be.)

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 7:58 PM
 

JK,

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. However, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Trapp’s decision is not necessarily and indictment on Clemson’s BB program, as some have suggested. On the other hand, his decision to leave because he is a SENIOR, as you suggested, does not totally hold water either.

Trapp is most likely going to play another year of college basketball at another school besides Clemson. It’s a fair question to ask why not Clemson for his final year? With COVID, he could’ve easily declared for the draft without an agent and returned to Clemson for a final year. He chose to go elsewhere and I’m curious as to why.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:03 PM
 

I think his minutes would go down next year. He’s a solid role player but very below average scorer. We don’t need more defense. We need more offense.

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Honestly this is the first I am hearing about this

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:08 PM
 

are you sure you are not confusing Clemson Men's Basketball with a team people care about?

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That’s a great point.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:14 PM
 

We need a red-headed stepchild board for Clemson basketball topics.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 8:30 PM
 

Oh Geez, His team needs him, and he’s leaving. he’s not going to be drafted and he’s basically thumbing his nose at his alma mater. The whole “declaring for the draft” thing is basically just a soft sell, he’s leaving Clemson and looking to play somewhere else. Quit being such a gullible ######

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You are so delusional...He will leave Clemson NO MATTER


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:17 PM
 

if he makes the NBA or not. What about that confuses you?

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:43 PM
 

I don't think people were taking issue with the NBA part. It was the transfer portal part that you were refusing to acknowledge when you were blindly arguing before you even realized he wasn't coming back, even if he didn't get drafted, that they took any issue with.

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First of all, Trapp was never expected back.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:08 PM
 

None of our seniors are. Most guys play their four years, get a degree, and are ready to move on.

Second, I have no problem with him entering the transfer portal or declaring for the draft. Neither are binding. He could end up returning to Clemson, but I doubt it.

Third, have you considered the fact that he might not fit into Clemson’s plans for next year?

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Re: First of all, Trapp was never expected back.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:20 PM
 

Point taken but the plan for next year seems to be changing daily. Will we even have the numbers to fill the squad with the recent departures and losses recruiting HS guys and transfers. What's the latest on the guys that were being discussed recently as possible transfer options?

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Stay tuned.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:29 PM
 

We will be in good shape with our roster when it’s all said and done.

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Re: Stay tuned.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:36 PM
 

I see Grady chose Kentucky. Wasn't aware of that and don't know if we were ever even considered. I just remembered his name from some posts on here. I hope you are correct. Any names to watch?

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Re: Stay tuned.


Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:44 PM
 

So now you’re not only a team insider who knows exactly what the plan to fill these holes is, but you are a mind reader who knows exactly what the targets are also going to do? Most be great to live in your world. I wonder how someone so important to a D1 basketball program has so much time for this board.

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I don’t blame him.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 9:49 PM
 

I’d jump ship, too.

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You have already done the fan equivalent.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2021, 10:08 PM
 

So I’m not surprised by your post.

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Posted: Apr 1, 2021, 6:11 AM
 

Ever Loyal.

I just call it like I see it.

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Posted: Apr 2, 2021, 2:13 PM
 

Don't know why he is declaring. He has no shot at the NBA. Although I have no issue if he wants to explore it. His best option would be to come back and get better and maybe play in Europe. That option may be limited this upcoming year with Covid and the issues in Europe.

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I'm not sure what all the commotion is about


Posted: Apr 2, 2021, 10:42 PM
 

if there is one area of the team that looks solid next year it is the backcourt with Dawes, Honor, Hemenway and Hunter returning. Add in the freshman PG from Columbia and a likely transfer in and we are pretty set there.

Clyde was a solid contributor for us but always had limitations. He battled for 4 years and has a degree. He's leaving on good terms with the coaches, team and program as a whole. It's quite likely he sees his role diminished here and would like to play a fifth year some place he could log starters minutes. I've always thought he was more of a good SoCon level player. And by good I mean 13-15 pts a game good. Something he'd never reach in the ACC.

Good luck to him and thanks for 4 years of hard work, being a good student and teammate, and contributing solid minutes on two NCAA tourney teams

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