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How in the eeffff is Penn St ranked at 6-3
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How in the eeffff is Penn St ranked at 6-3


Nov 7, 2021, 2:37 PM

And we aren’t? They literally have one of the worst losses this season and they even stayed ranked after that. ###

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They beat two ranked teams. I suspect that helps.***

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Nov 7, 2021, 2:40 PM



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Nov 7, 2021, 2:43 PM

During the game yesterday they flaunted that Purdue (as an unranked team) has beaten more top 5 teams than anyone else in college football. They missed the irony that those top 5 teams were not really top 5 teams - merely overrated because they are in the big ten.

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You have to take each team on it's own merits.


Nov 7, 2021, 3:10 PM

It doesn't matter the conference. It's silly to buy into conference hype, good or bad.

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I hate buying into conference strength and all that garbage


Nov 7, 2021, 3:22 PM

but it's probably fair to say the Big 10 is the strongest they've ever been this year.

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Nov 7, 2021, 3:33 PM

No, more competitive yes!

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17 times they have done it.

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Nov 7, 2021, 7:39 PM

5 more than any other team.

I guess they are lucky to play over ranked teams a lot.

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Nov 7, 2021, 2:56 PM

Coaches and media are doing all they can to keep Clemson out of the rankings or as low as possible for next year. They have waited for this opportunity for a long time.

Let's go Tigers finish strong and prove them wrong!!!

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Nov 7, 2021, 3:27 PM

Do you think Clemson has earned a ranking? I don't. They have yet to put together a convincing win. Before anyone throws out the old standby of .. "Coot !!" . Nope, just a realistic supporter who doesn't believe in propping up bad football regardless of who it is. Penn State is ten times the team Clemson is right now.

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Nov 7, 2021, 3:41 PM

I am convinced that Clemson has won 6 games.
They lost to a really good Pitt team. ( could have won)
They lost to a Good NC State team ( should have won)
Lost to the # 1 team because of a pic 6 … could have won.
I think Clemson could beat anybody in the country right now!
Rankings are stupid!!!

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Nov 7, 2021, 7:31 PM

Any team can beat any other team. That's football. The difference is some do beat teams when they get the chance. You just ran through a list of coulda woulda shoulda. That is why Clemson is not ranked. Clemson is not terrible but top 25? Not right now.

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Re: How in the eeffff is Penn St ranked at 6-3


Nov 7, 2021, 8:03 PM

Not with our offense.

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Nov 7, 2021, 10:10 PM

I don’t disagree, but we could also lose to any team in the top 60 with our offense.

It is really crazy but I do feel that way.

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Nov 7, 2021, 6:20 PM

I don’t disagree, but we could also lose to any team in the top 60 with our offense.

It is really crazy but I do feel that way.

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Nov 7, 2021, 4:37 PM

Yes. It is bothersome the Tigers can't pick up a 1st down at end of game to finish it off. (Imagine Ford would be first to tell you that's bad football too. His teams would always pick up that last 1st down to run the clock out). My dad used to call it "give up" ball during the TB era -turning the ball over to the other team for one last shot to beat you.

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Always? Guess you don't remember 1980,


Nov 7, 2021, 7:39 PM

1984, 1985. Danny's teams were tough. Guess what? So is this one. Can't imagine any Ford team losing the guys this team has to injury and performing any better

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Nov 7, 2021, 3:01 PM

While Clemson isn't great this year, we are nevertheless better than Penn State.

Both Clemson and Penn State have done enough to eke into the Top 25 (IMO).

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Nov 7, 2021, 3:02 PM

We only got 3 points for the AP top 25 this week. That occur with 3 votes for 25th, with 1 vote for 25th and 1 for 24th, or with just one vote at 23rd. I know that we are down this year but I am still surprised that we don't get more respect than that.

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Nov 7, 2021, 3:02 PM

At least the SEC has the top-ranked undefeated team, and highest-ranked one-loss, two-loss, and three-loss teams. So all is right with the world.

Thank GOODNESS for Purdue!

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Nov 7, 2021, 4:22 PM

Quick comparisons:
Strength of Record: Clemson 19 Penn St 25 (this is my preferred metric and why we should be ranked)
Strength of Schedule: Clemson 7 Penn St 13
I believe SOR looks at schedule and record, which is what really matters. We won and lost the games we should have.

FPI: Clemson 8 Penn St 13
Who knows what this means so let's just ignore it.

Game Control: Penn St 4 Clemson 25
AVG Win Percentage: Penn St 14 Clemson 56
This is the "EYE" test.

Efficiencies
Overall: Penn St 14 Clemson 29
Offense: Penn St 45 Clemson 83
Defense: Penn St 7 Clemson 8
Special Teams: Clemson 26 Penn St 60
And this is why they pass the "EYE" test.

Their best wins are Wisconsin 6-3 and Auburn 6-3 and to me are propped up by their conference affiliation.
Their worst loss is Illinois 4-5.
Unfortunately, we do not have a best win (only team over .500 is Syracuse 5-4 oh and SC State 5-4), but we also do not have a worst loss. The teams that beat us are ranked higher than us, but quality losses only benefit the SEC.
Honestly, this is probably why they are ranked higher than us.

Too bad the ACC can't use the "we are cannibalizing ourselves" line like the SEC and Big Ten do.

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Re: How in the eeffff is Penn St ranked at 6-3


Nov 7, 2021, 8:08 PM

Who cares?

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Because they are "we are" ...


Nov 7, 2021, 8:42 PM

we are what ?
drunk ?
broke ?
liberal ?

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