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Game Day Hero [4151]
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Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:10 PM
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with the culture and religious non sense and just focus on football.
There is nothing wrong with being religious, but everybody is not into that to the level that he is.
I think it may be hurting our recruiting.
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Game Changer [1629]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:19 PM
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You are just now coming to this opinion? He’s not changing at this point.
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Ultimate Tiger [35201]
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Dabo had been saying the same thing for 14
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Yrs.It isn't going to change.
You hear it 20 times a week because he is asked the same questions 20 times a week.
The real key is to stop asking questions.
1 press conference per week would dramatically reduce what he is saying.
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Ultimate Tiger [34642]
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Re: Dabo had been saying the same thing for 14
Oct 22, 2025, 1:26 PM
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Which is how many years it has been tiresome BS
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Ultimate Tiger [35201]
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Turn the channel. Find some other thing to listen
Oct 23, 2025, 12:52 PM
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To.
It's not that complicated.
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Valley Legend [12452]
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You should call his office and let him know.
Oct 22, 2025, 12:20 PM
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LOL
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Heisman Winner [83829]
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I'm 100% convinced you are the first poster to ever
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:40 PM
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think this.
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National Champion [7320]
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He isn't religious.
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:41 PM
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He's a believer.
And the space between those two things is where you'll find the reasons Swinney does not separate his theology from his ethic.
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Rival Killer [3058]
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Re: He isn't religious.
Oct 22, 2025, 1:36 PM
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Dabo is a member of NewSpring Church, and has frequently discussed his Christian faith, so yes, he is religious. NewSpring is non-denominational, but it holds core Christian beliefs and adheres to a Baptist faith tradition.
That's religion. Christianity is a religion.
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National Champion [7320]
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That's true.
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Oct 22, 2025, 3:20 PM
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What I'm distinguishing between, though, is belief, which is for lack of better definition a personal conviction or acceptance that something is true, and religion, which is an organized belief system.
Christians don't believe in Christianity. They believe in Christ. Dabo is the latter.
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Team Captain [474]
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Re: That's true.
Oct 22, 2025, 5:34 PM
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You think that sounds really profound, but it really isn't. "Christians don't believe in Christianity, they believe in Christ." That is total nonsense. Christianity is a religion entirely made up of Christians, and is centered around the teachings of Jesus Christ, so...I would say Christians -- and I am one -- believe in Christianity.
This sort of faux-theology is very popular in mega churches.
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National Champion [7320]
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Eh. Close but not quite.
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Oct 22, 2025, 5:55 PM
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Swinney submits to the teachings of Jesus (what we all call "Christianity") but he believes in the person of Jesus.
And, like the belief/religion distinction, it is one that must be made.
And there's nothing profound about any of it. Simple, sure. Counterintuitive, possibly. But not profound.
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Dynasty Maker [3491]
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Yeah, it can be a bit of a false dichotomy, depending on how it's put ...
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if someone merely means to point out that the ultimate object in faith is in the Lord Christ himself, and not in the organized practice or structure of Christianity, per se, then that's a fine and true and worthwhile distinction. (and, I believe this is what A1 is getting at, if I understand him correctly)
However, rhetorically, this can be pushed too far. Sure, we are saved by Christ, not by "Christianity" as such . . . but that doesn't mean that a genuine Christ-oriented faith results in a "non-religious" person . . . or a person who is "not religious." That's a false dichotomy that assumes that a religious person is necessarily one who doesn't believe in Christ sincerely, and only practices a the religion outwardly/externally. But the external/religious practice, and the genuine article of faith, are not mutually exclusive. Some may substitute religion for true faith, but this doesn't mean the two never go together.
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National Champion [7320]
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I went there a while (WHILE) back.
Oct 22, 2025, 5:57 PM
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And much like you and I, it certainly had its flaws.
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Game Day Hero [4151]
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Re: He isn't religious.
Oct 22, 2025, 4:01 PM
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Thats a load of bull.
He goes to the same church sits in the same pew in the same clothes on the same day every week.
He’s religious.
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National Champion [7320]
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He does?
Oct 22, 2025, 5:59 PM
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That's good to know. And yes, it does make him religious. But I think the OP was about his *religion* not his habit/ritual.
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Game Day Hero [4151]
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Re: He does?
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Oct 22, 2025, 6:05 PM
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It's about the way is in your face about it.
You are the one that responded that he wasn't religious.
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National Champion [7320]
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You're right.
Oct 22, 2025, 6:13 PM
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If he's in your face about the fact that he goes to church and sits in the same pew every week then yes, that's pretty off-putting. Highly religious people tend to be that way in my experience with them.
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110%er [4023]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:45 PM
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You are the problem!
Thank God for Dabo!
You think his Faith is hurting recruiting? It is what drew many many players to Clemson.
He does not force His beliefs on anybody but He does get to have them!
So just win games so that drunk degenerate gambling addicts and spoiled rotten do nothing fans can feel good about themselves! That's a great recruiting pitch!
but hey sometimes you get what you ask for!!!
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Tiger Spirit [9929]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:52 PM
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You need a drink.
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110%er [4023]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:11 PM
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No sir I do not need a drink!
Alcohol steals kills and destroys Lives. I do not need that.
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Tiger Spirit [9929]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:13 PM
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Your ranting and raving all over the message board says otherwise. Maybe grab a joint instead.
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Associate AD [1024]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:35 PM
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or 2 joints...just ask Sublime
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110%er [4023]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 4:50 PM
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I will pray for you! You really need help!
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Game Day Hero [4151]
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1st Rounder [607]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:30 PM
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Jesus doesn’t approve of mean old men…
Just a thought 🤔
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Orange Blooded [2140]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:57 PM
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Jesus doesn't approve of a whole lot of things his supposed "followers" are doing.
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Rival Killer [3058]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:31 PM
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So, if you're not religious, you are a "drunk degenerate gambling addict" or "spoiled rotten do nothing fan".
Got it.
(eye roll)
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1st Rounder [629]
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I love the his beliefs and idea on culture.....after all it is what really
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:49 PM
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matters.....but also, we need to win football games.
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Tiger Spirit [9929]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 12:53 PM
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Culture and religion are certainly not the problem. Those were central to Dabo's style and message during the best stretch in the history of Clemson football.
Coaching, talent, and modern roster management are the problem.
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Standout [213]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:04 PM
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Nah. Thats why we and the players and parents love him.
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Game Changer [2031]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:13 PM
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What he has achieved (historic) he would never have achieved without "the culture and religious nonsense".
The problem isn't that people aren't into it. The problem is it doesn't mix simply with NIL and revenue sharing. We've tried to just add the one to other but it isn't working.
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1st Rounder [629]
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"culture and religious nonsense" uhhhh..you must not get out much. Its the
Oct 22, 2025, 3:53 PM
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fabric of the United States. I'll take good culture and christian beliefs all day, everyday over "bad behavior athletes" ....I want my kids cheering and watching these young men be productive in society and good neighbors to all.
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National Champion [7320]
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Portal/NIL/rev sharing no more compete with his Christian ethic
Oct 22, 2025, 6:01 PM
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than being a day trader or hedge fund manager. Good business is good business. And I believe Swinney is probably a pretty good businessman.
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Rival Killer [2913]
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Yeah, and let's just graduate about 25%, who gives a sh!t***
Oct 22, 2025, 1:11 PM
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Re: Yeah, and let's just graduate about 25%, who gives a sh!t***
Oct 22, 2025, 1:19 PM
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Since when is religion nonsense Einstein ?
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Re: Yeah, and let's just graduate about 25%, who gives a sh!t***
Oct 22, 2025, 1:36 PM
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Always when blind faith is required.
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Re: Yeah, and let's just graduate about 25%, who gives a sh!t***
Oct 22, 2025, 3:05 PM
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We walk by faith and not by sight…
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:18 PM
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That is a baseless and really idiotic statement. There re numerous recruits that openly say otherwise, yet you really are the only one I have ever heard utter something this stupid. Sad.
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Ultimate Tiger [34642]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:27 PM
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I'd rather those recruits and players put in the effort... prayers don't work.
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:21 PM
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You guys are probably puppy killers. Give me a break.
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:22 PM
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Even with NIL the most important thing in recruiting still is culture. You need to chill out.
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 1:23 PM
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Culture and religious nonsense?
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Game Day Hero [4324]
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On the list of things that need to change...
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Oct 22, 2025, 1:31 PM
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Im not sure that's in the top 25.
Its OK to have some things that make you different in recruiting. We've had much more benefit from our culture than harm.
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honestly if he didn't espouse his faith... it would be way easier to not trust
Oct 22, 2025, 2:19 PM
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anything he says. So, i'm 100% all for it and it brings me back to reality when he goes off on his tangents. Its refreshing and grounding to hear.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54081]
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Dabos beliefs arent the problem.
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His poor leadership and decision making is.
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Clemson Icon [25970]
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Leadership lately...
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Game Changer [1604]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 3:56 PM
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No problems with talking about Jesus the world needs as much of that as possible
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Orange Blooded [2408]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 4:10 PM
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It becomes a sort of bias in how he hires and recruits. It doesn't make him a better Christian to do it this way it makes him a worse football coach. It doesn't attract people to the message if people see you failing in your life's work.
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Head Coach [934]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 4:44 PM
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Losing is hurting- NOT his strong spiritual stance. Don't overthink it and criticize that great attribute that Dabo has.
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Head Coach [934]
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Re: Dabo needs to chill out
Oct 22, 2025, 4:46 PM
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Losing is hurting- NOT his strong spiritual stance. Don't overthink it and criticize that great attribute that Dabo has.
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Clemson Icon [24879]
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You knew you were kicking over a hornet's nest, right? (LOL). I have mixed
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Oct 22, 2025, 5:06 PM
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feelings about it. I have no problem with Dabo expressing his personal beliefs, that's just who he is. I do wish he'd tone it down a hair. He gives credit to God when we win, but not when we lose. I dunno. Y'all have at it.
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