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Front Page Story: Venables says defense has the talent to overcome defensive issues
Sep 25, 2012, 3:14 PM
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Venables will get this D better as the season progresses.
Sep 25, 2012, 3:22 PM
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By November 24th they will be tested and ready.
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If he doesn't, I'm going to strap on my little boy pants
Sep 25, 2012, 3:27 PM
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and do absolutely nothing about it.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables says defense has the talent to overcome defensive issues
Sep 25, 2012, 3:33 PM
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nice article but he pretty much has to say this whether he believes it or not. he cant say or admit we don't if he were to feel that is the case.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables says defense has the talent to overcome defensive issues
Sep 25, 2012, 3:52 PM
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He ain't got to say nothing like what he said... all the coaches know we have an experience deficit... Consider how many players got significant snaps against BallState and Furman. We are playing a lot of different personnel when we can. Venebles poitned out in the article he should haved played more against FSU, Chad Morris said the same about the offense. By November we will have a seasoned team...but we are not there yet.... FSU has a lot of seniors and juniors on their 2 deep. We will have that in 2 years... but we ain't there yet.
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Re: so we're young
Sep 25, 2012, 3:59 PM
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that really gets old. get used far too often here and at other schools
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thank you
Sep 25, 2012, 4:05 PM
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really, really old..
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It happens to be true.
Sep 25, 2012, 5:53 PM
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11 seniors and 11 juniors out of 80 players. 72% of this team is underclassmen.
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Not even close!
Sep 26, 2012, 9:37 AM
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Goodman - Sr
Jarret - Soph
Williams - Soph
Crawford - Soph
Tig - RS Sr
Corico - Sr
Quandon - RS Jr
Anthony - Soph
Robinson - Jr
Rashard - Sr
Brewer - Sr
Meeks - Sr
Breeland - RS Soph.
I see a whole lot of Jr's and Sr's there. Crawford could even be considered a 3rd year player with his one year of prep school. This is his 3rd year out of high school. The one area we are young is the DT position. No doubt about that. Anthony is a Soph but played a lot of snaps last year as did Crawford.
The youth excuse is getting tiresome on Tigernet. I guess unless you have an entire roster of seniors you're consider "young".
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Reading comprehension issues?
Sep 26, 2012, 12:42 PM
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My reference was to the roster of 80.
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Re: so we're young
Sep 25, 2012, 8:58 PM
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Well, in our case it really is true. Most of us knew that was the case going into the season. Now, I think it's a shame that we don't have more experienced, high quality depth, but we don't. That used to be the case with the offense, too, but that seems better. I think we are heading in the right direction, but it takes time, and patience and players and staff. Even Nick Saban didn't get Alabama into the NC game his first year or 2, and we don't have Nick Saban as our coach, his assistants, his resources, his school's and his conference's low academic requirements, etc., either. Remember, the even the coots beat them a couple of years ago.
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Re: so we're young
Sep 26, 2012, 12:20 AM
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Yada, yada, yada. Same old song and dance. Carolina will crush us.
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Whatever COOT!!***
Sep 26, 2012, 2:30 AM
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Re: so we're young
Sep 26, 2012, 7:17 AM
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If that is what you truly believe and that we are not improving as a program and as a team, then you may want to pull for another team, unless you already do. I see lots to be excited about.
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With all due respect, a coach can never or will never
Sep 25, 2012, 4:04 PM
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say publicly that he lacks the talent. It would be his death knell, both from the standpoint of his own players, his peers and boss, and the whole organization.
Behind some very closed doors, he will put it different, to certain people.
That's just the reality of it - you can't really get the truth in a public statement.
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Reggie Herring says "now you tell me".***
Sep 25, 2012, 4:12 PM
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Morris come in saying our WRs were slower than Tulsa's.
Sep 25, 2012, 4:22 PM
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Then Sammy arrived. But it's not like a coach can't tell it like it is.
I'll admit that it's not a great idea to publicly say that your players lack talent, but you also don't have to come out and publicly say that they are a talented group. So I'll take Venables at his word-- especially considering that the roster is full of 3, 4, & 5 stars.
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Re: Morris come in saying our WRs were slower than Tulsa's.
Sep 26, 2012, 12:30 AM
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Have you been wataching this defense?? They get progressively worse.
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What does that have to do with what I wrote?***
Sep 26, 2012, 1:23 AM
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He's a Coot, doesn't have anything to do w what you wrote***
Sep 26, 2012, 2:33 AM
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Thank you, and I agree
Sep 25, 2012, 5:36 PM
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the problem that I have with our defense is...
I didn't expect them to have a REAL drastic
transformation 4 games in from this year to last year.
I was just hoping for some gradual improvement.
WHICH WE HAVEN'T!!
In fact, the defense is probably worse than last year's
at this point.
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Venables has obviously read Sun Tzu's Art of War. A main
Sep 25, 2012, 4:47 PM
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message Tzu puts across is that you cannot blame your troops when it's your job as a leader to ensure you have communicated clearly and thoroughly to them. You must accept responsibility for their failures. I think BV will actually make good on his claims of, "We'll get it fixed."
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Re: Venables has obviously read Sun Tzu's Art of War. A main
Sep 26, 2012, 12:33 AM
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How do you do that with untalented players who apparently have never learned the way to the weight room?
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Tackling
Sep 25, 2012, 4:50 PM
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As a whole we have been a pretty poor tackling defense for a while now. Young or old, there is no excuse in that. Basic fundamentals. Our defense looks light we only have 8 players on the field and good defenses like FSU's look like they have 12 players on the field flying around. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Tackling
Sep 26, 2012, 12:36 AM
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Right. Soft and weak. End of story. But not to worry, Dabo thinks we have an outstanding strength program. How can he have come from Alabama and believe that?
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I'm disappointed that BV doesn't read Tigernet
Sep 25, 2012, 5:57 PM
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To find out what's wrong with our defense. What kind of coach is he?
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Re: I'm disappointed that BV doesn't read Tigernet
Sep 26, 2012, 12:40 AM
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He has to be very careful in what he says because Dabo is so utterly defensive (and in denial) regarding our strength program. Dabo "loves" our linebackers, and believes we have major talent on defense. Hello!
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An Observation
Sep 25, 2012, 8:15 PM
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I'm going to say it. I love my Tigers supremely. I also watch other CFB teams, and love to analyze and compare. There are only so many 4 & 5 star players. So when I see defenses loaded with 2 & 3 star recruits with big arms and thunder thighs tossing around good offenses, what gives? Yes, I'm opening the can of worms, STRENGTH & FITNESS. Watch a mid to lower tier SEC team, and see how they just slam the poo out of non conference opponents.
Just sayin'.
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Re: An Observation
Sep 26, 2012, 12:44 AM
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Man, you have hit the nail on the head. My hat is off to you for having the guts to tell it like it is. Our strength program is terrible. The problem starts there. Amen!
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You're absolutely right. S&C staff is not
Sep 26, 2012, 9:41 AM
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only about strenght and conditioning, but it's also their job to instill an attitude and physicality to the players during summer workouts and drills. When I watch the player drills videos released by the staff on clemsontigers dot com, the players are laughing and lollygagging around. When you watch videos from other schools their staffs have those guys getting after it 110%, really busting their chops out there. And that translates on the field. Stopping the run is about discipline but its also about attitude and just wanting it more than the other guy trying to block you. I dont see any of that on the Tigers defense right now. No meanness, no chip on their shoulder, no desire to beat the block and make the tackle.
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"little boy pants" = point foryou
Sep 25, 2012, 10:52 PM
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Best line I've read today. Got a good chuckle out of that
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My dogs know what to do when something runs at them***
Sep 25, 2012, 11:17 PM
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Re: My dogs know what to do when something runs at them***
Sep 26, 2012, 12:52 AM
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Wish our defense did. But then they don't have the strength and toughness to do it. Who is Accountable?
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70% underclassmen, no depth, faced #4 team in the country...
Sep 26, 2012, 1:45 AM
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Some of you seriously need to step back and assess the situation.
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Sep 26, 2012, 2:36 AM
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables says defense has the talent to overcome defensive issues
Sep 26, 2012, 10:52 AM
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Then let's see all that talent. If you talent you need to use it.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables says defense has the talent to overcome defensive issues
Sep 26, 2012, 2:01 PM
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The defense would be better if he played Steward, Townsend, Davis, Barnes, and move Blanks to safety. If he continues to play the same players the results will remain the same.
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Can't remember. Did we hire a strength
Sep 26, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Coach assistant? If so, how is that working out?
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Maybe Venebles has the intelligence
Sep 26, 2012, 12:24 PM
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to trash the stupid zone blocking playbook and give us some real defensive blocking/tackling plays
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