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If Purnell hadn't ruined our bball program when he left...
Mar 13, 2017, 1:32 PM
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how many NCAAT appearances, wins, Sweet 16's, etc... would Brownell have by now? If the program had been in decent shape, it wouldn't have taken 7-8 years for BB's coaching to shine.
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Re: If Purnell hadn't ruined our bball program when he left...
Mar 13, 2017, 1:39 PM
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Ehhh...If it wasnt for OP, Brownell would have zero apperances instead of the one he does have(with OP's recruits)
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why do you think we couldn't get a better coach with the
Mar 13, 2017, 1:40 PM
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juggernaut OP built?
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Re: why do you think we couldn't get a better coach with the***
Mar 13, 2017, 1:44 PM
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so you don't have an answer either Skeeter?***
Mar 13, 2017, 1:47 PM
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so you don't have an answer either York?***
Mar 13, 2017, 1:56 PM
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Re: we got a good coach... what's wrong with BB?
Mar 13, 2017, 2:09 PM
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Brownell is not a good coach. Barnes,Foster,and Purnell were good coaches. They got us to the NCAAs and beyond. What has Brownell done other than have average teams?
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CU Medallion [18296]
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You're next CoachMac, why couldn't we get a better coach
Mar 13, 2017, 2:26 PM
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with the juggernaut that OP built?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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The consensus was we hired a great coach in CBB
Mar 13, 2017, 2:33 PM
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I remember reading one article that said something along the lines of (and I'm paraphrasing) one of the best qualities of a CBB team is that they always get a great look at the basket coming out of a timeout. After this last year, do you think that's true? Heck, I was happy all year when we didn't turn the ball over on the in-bounds pass, let alone get a shot off, let alone getting a quality shot off, let alone actually score.
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you didn't answer the question either...Why couldn't we get
Mar 13, 2017, 2:38 PM
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a BETTER coach with the juggernaut OP built?
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who ever said we couldn't have?
Mar 13, 2017, 2:39 PM
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would you say we could have gotten a "better" coach than Dabo at the time?
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Why do P5 coaches decline to even interview for the job?***
Mar 13, 2017, 2:41 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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CU Medallion [18296]
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so Brad was the best we could get? With OP's juggernaut?***
Mar 13, 2017, 2:45 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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You ask the question like I was personally on the search
Mar 13, 2017, 2:54 PM
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committee. I know the timing of the search put us at a disadvantage, but when CBB was hired it was seen as a really good decision. I know you enjoy the hyperbole of using the word "juggernaut" but you have to admit our team was pretty strong when OP skipped town. So what are you really asking here?
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CU Medallion [18296]
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I am asking why a team with 3 straight NCAA bids had to
Mar 13, 2017, 3:08 PM
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settle for Wright State's HC? Was it our history? Was it our facilities? Was it Administrative support? The bandwagon was full, so it couldn't have been the fan support...What, in YOUR opinion, turned established P5 coaches away?
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CU Medallion [18296]
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And what makes you so sure we will do better THIS time
Mar 13, 2017, 3:10 PM
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around? Other than facilities, which we have been told numerous times isn't THAT important.
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Re: And what makes you so sure we will do better THIS time
Mar 13, 2017, 3:11 PM
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You are right we should just keep doing what we are doing... That is a better solution....
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why did we HAVE to settle last time with a more attractive
Mar 13, 2017, 3:15 PM
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program?
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Re: why did we HAVE to settle last time with a more attractive
Mar 13, 2017, 3:47 PM
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We didnt settle as GWP has pointed out to you. You just choose not to read it.
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CU Medallion [18296]
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so we contacted at least 4 coaches from the SEC/Big 12 who
Mar 13, 2017, 3:52 PM
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said no thank you first and then we got the guy we wanted all along? Just like South Carolina in football?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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Brad Stevens is dead to me.
Mar 13, 2017, 3:17 PM
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!@#$%^&*!!!
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CU Medallion [18296]
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CU Medallion [18296]
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why?***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:27 PM
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Are you deliberately trying to be obtuse? Because you keep
Mar 13, 2017, 3:39 PM
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ignoring the fact that CBB was a good hire and came highly recommended. When has Clemson ever hired experienced P5 coaches in any sport? OP came from Dayton and built the program from complete ruin to a team that was making the tournament every year. Barnes came from Providence. Look at football, Bowden and Dabo? We have history in football and couldn't even get Frank Beamer to talk to us in 1998. Do I think we can upgrade this time around? Yes. Just like we upgraded after Shyatt.
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CU Medallion [18296]
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Barnes was an established P5 HC***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:42 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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Yeah, back when Providence was in the BE, let's not
Mar 13, 2017, 3:45 PM
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pretend that was a big time job. But way to avoid the actual point of the post. If we were able to upgrade after Shyatt with a mid-major coach, why do you think we can't upgrade after Brownell?
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CU Medallion [18296]
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Was the Big East a Power Conference?***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:46 PM
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Re: Barnes was an established P5 HC***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:45 PM
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P5 =
ACC
SEC
Pac 12
Big 10
Big 12
TIL Providence was in one of those conferences...
And GWP yes he is intentionally trying to be obtuse. He ignores questions and answers. He can only deflect and deflect.
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CU Medallion [18296]
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You're right, I should have said Big 6 or Power Conference,
Mar 13, 2017, 3:49 PM
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which the Big East clearly was at the time of Barnes hiring...And a RAG member accusing someone else of deflecting is like TigerKing79 calling someone else a race baiter
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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You ARE defelcting, you keep trying to make the point that
Mar 13, 2017, 3:51 PM
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"if we couldn't upgrade after the juggernaut OP built what makes you think we could upgrade now?" I have answered that and you deflect from the question "we upgraded after Shyatt and started making the tournament every year, what makes you think we can't upgrade now?"
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CU Medallion [18296]
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For the Record, I have NEVER defelcted anything! I
Mar 13, 2017, 3:54 PM
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was raised better 
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CU Medallion [18296]
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I would expect nothing less***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:58 PM
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110%er [7719]
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Re: funny how the whiners don't have an an answer to a simple
Mar 13, 2017, 3:46 PM
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lol you accusing others of not answering a question is pretty rich.
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I'm sorry, did you answer the question?***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:50 PM
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Re: If Purnell hadn't ruined our bball program when he left...
Mar 13, 2017, 1:41 PM
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Re: If Purnell hadn't ruined our bball program when he left...
Mar 13, 2017, 1:51 PM
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He won with OPs team . I wish Terry Down Phillips had done more for OP. The problem then was an administration unfriendly to athletics.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101644]
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One good thing that Terry Down Phillips did was
Mar 13, 2017, 1:53 PM
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promote Dabo Swinney
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CTB's idea.***
Mar 13, 2017, 1:56 PM
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CU Medallion [18296]
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Brad isn't the problem, the fact that we could not hire a
Mar 13, 2017, 3:20 PM
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better coach than him at the time is...Firing him is not going to change that
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