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For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are
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For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 4:50 PM

... basically showing the same news coverage.

I’m not talking about the evening pundits, I’m talking about the news.

Could it be that we actually ARE lol in this together after all?

... to be continued.

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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 4:52 PM

Auto correct turns the word “all” into “lol” ... ?????????

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The confounding variable is Fox


Mar 1, 2022, 7:59 PM

I wonder how many of their viewers have been peeled away by the more Trump-focused sources like OAN, Newsmax, etc

I just got my first taste of those outlets via Roku…..these people scare the #### out of me.

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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 4:55 PM

Unity feels much better than Division, to be sure

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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 5:01 PM

Unity of citizens > unity of media

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Just means Fox is falling in line. Slowly but surely.


Feb 27, 2022, 5:03 PM

Find other news sources. If they’re trying to ban them they’re probably telling the truth.

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And just like ... you personify the whole problem


Feb 27, 2022, 5:16 PM

Pointing fingers and sewing division.

Great job!

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Re: And just like ... you personify the whole problem


Feb 27, 2022, 5:21 PM

Don't worry, CNN's new CEO hates anything conservative. CNN reporting actual news won't last long.

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The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive.


Feb 27, 2022, 5:30 PM

This is the crux of the whole problem.

I think if Fox and CNN are saying the same things, then you can probably trust what they’re saying.

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Re: The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive.


Feb 27, 2022, 6:52 PM

Because “the media” isn’t in the business of providing news. All they provide is opinion. And curate what information you are exposed to and presented in a certain manner to affect public opinion. And also to bury information that the powers that be don’t want you to know.

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This is a direct result of 34-hour news and the need to,fill


Feb 27, 2022, 9:10 PM

Air time.

It’s given rise to the political pundit and it’s created an environment in which controversy means ratings.

There is still “news” to be had on TV, but the punditocracy has become the real driver of ratings and the true power at all the networks.

Today, the straight news from Ukraine was being delivered in much the same way by CNN and Fox.

Tonight, I’m sure Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson will give us their own unique twist.

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Re: The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive.


Feb 27, 2022, 9:15 PM [ in reply to The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive. ]

Don’t be fooled. None of them tell the truth. None!

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Re: The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive.


Feb 27, 2022, 9:19 PM

Absolutely, they are all lying selling the agenda they are paid to sell on all stations. No true journalism at all.

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Perhaps ... probably even. But my point is that in order for


Feb 27, 2022, 9:31 PM [ in reply to Re: The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive. ]

it to qualify as “news”, it cannot be slanted nor biased.

If it’s a lie, then it is not the “news”.

My hope is that as long as the coverage appears to be telling us a similar story on both networks, perhaps it is the truth and maybe it really is “news” and not propaganda.

This is just me sitting here dreaming.

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Re: The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive.


Feb 28, 2022, 10:30 PM [ in reply to The “news” is not conservative, or liberal, or progressive. ]

Quite the opposite, DueWest.

Unanimity of news coverage is what's found in totalitarian states.

The worry is that Fox is trying to move in CNN's direction.

Varying opinions, freely expressed and challenged via rational (not emotional) arguments, is the foundation of a free society.

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What you describe is propaganda, not news.


Mar 1, 2022, 5:04 PM

The news should never be propaganda.

That is what totalitarian states do.

Reporting the news truthfully without bias is what should happen on every media outlet.

Opinion is quite another matter. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Opinion is not the news.

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Re: And just like ... you personify the whole problem


Feb 27, 2022, 10:03 PM [ in reply to And just like ... you personify the whole problem ]

DueWest, the first step in fixing a problem is to identify the problem.

The problem is that too many people have embraced virtue signaling instead of geopolitical and economic understanding (BTW, that means an understanding outside of Western Europe). These people express their virtuous outrage at entities which won't hurt them (e.g., Antifa protesters in USA cities who wouldn't whisper a word of dissent if they were faced with real tyranny) are among America's big problems.

The (almost entirely) corrupt TV news media and (largely) corrupt print / on-line major media outlets do not call out this hypocritical more-than-bratty adolescent Antifa behavior ... which by its silence (and worse, sometimes lauding coverage) only enables & encourages more such behavior.

The problem must be recognized, called out, and fixed before any 'public unity' can be achieved.

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The WHOLE point is to "Divide and Conquer" by design...***


Feb 28, 2022, 1:46 AM



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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 5:22 PM

DueWest said:

... basically showing the same news coverage.

I’m not talking about the evening pundits, I’m talking about the news.

Could it be that we actually ARE lol in this together after all?

... to be continued.



Not to pee on your cornflakes but I don’t trust either of them and if they are showing the same thing then my gut says collusion to sell a lie

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They’ve certainly earned your distrust and disdain ...***


Feb 27, 2022, 5:27 PM



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You must know FOX was started by Leftie Murdock for $ purposes..


Feb 27, 2022, 5:52 PM

and years later (he died) his 2 Leftie sons took over..fought over format and thus1 left and remaining Son likes the $ so much that he’s leaving it alone for the Republicans & Conservatives to enjoy.

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Re: You must know FOX was started by Leftie Murdock for $ purposes..


Feb 27, 2022, 7:33 PM


and years later (he died) his 2 Leftie sons took over..fought over format and thus1 left and remaining Son likes the $ so much that he’s leaving it alone for the Republicans & Conservatives to enjoy.


Bill, Rupert is still alive. Will turn 91 next month. He married his 4th wife, Jerri Hall ( Mick Jagger’s long time ex) in 2016.

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Re: You must know FOX was started by Leftie Murdock for $ purposes..


Feb 27, 2022, 7:56 PM

Also Rupert Murdoch Is definitely not a “leftie” he’s extremely conservative and a huge donor of the Republican Party.

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Re: You must know FOX was started by Leftie Murdock for $ purposes..


Feb 28, 2022, 4:11 PM [ in reply to You must know FOX was started by Leftie Murdock for $ purposes.. ]



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Exactly right!***


Feb 27, 2022, 9:18 PM [ in reply to Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are ]



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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 6:44 PM

They both are lying

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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 6:58 PM

One thing you can count on, is that both are trying to control the narrative. That’s either really good or really bad.

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Hope they shut down the ‘opinion’ shows on each channel


Feb 27, 2022, 7:03 PM

Stick to news and both sides are closely aligned. The opinion shows are garbage and divisive.

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Russian media is corrupt, the Ukraine media is corrupt and


Feb 27, 2022, 7:37 PM

the US media is corrupt.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: Russian media is corrupt, the Ukraine media is corrupt and


Feb 27, 2022, 8:28 PM

Sadly, you are probably right on.

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My hope


Feb 27, 2022, 7:51 PM

Is that after this comes to a conclusion the folks who dwell on the far left and far right of the spectrum understand that our enemies are Putin, Xi and Un; not the person on the other side of the aisle. Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer, and Rubio are not our enemies they are political opponents who are still Americans. There’s a huge difference between that and an enemy of America like we’re seeing this week in Russia. The cable tabloid “news” programs are selling outrage and division to make the almighty ad dollar. All that really matters is ratings; so you’ll find a program to tell you exactly what you want to hear, and call the other side liars, irrespective of whether you are liberal or conservative.

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That’s terrifying


Feb 27, 2022, 8:32 PM

Any time the Dems and Repubs “get together” on anything it’s awful for us. Iraq War, Patriot Act, debt ceiling votes, war on drugs.

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Everything is terrifying. The world is a scary place.


Feb 27, 2022, 9:13 PM

Always has been ... always will be.

Until somebody blows it up, I guess.

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1000% agree!***


Feb 27, 2022, 9:23 PM [ in reply to That’s terrifying ]



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You scare easily***


Feb 27, 2022, 11:39 PM [ in reply to That’s terrifying ]



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Please seek professional help


Mar 1, 2022, 8:38 PM

And stay more than 500 yards away from me.

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Re: That’s terrifying


Mar 1, 2022, 8:32 PM [ in reply to That’s terrifying ]

Truer words never spoken Pork_Chop®

Your examples of 'cooperation' are indeed terrifying.

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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Feb 27, 2022, 9:00 PM

"The First thing lost in a War is the truth."

Quoted by few; forgotten by many!!!!

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Re: For the first time since 9-11, CNN and Fox are


Mar 1, 2022, 8:07 PM

yeah, see my Irony post (no one has so far haha)

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/thread/irony-2142466?tstart=0

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