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For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:31 AM
 

The defense struggled with injuries for the beginning of the season and were also adapting to being on the field more with a new, spread offense. Looking at the last four games of the season when the unit recovered from injuries (how that number would rank nationally):

270 yards per game (4th)

16.25 points per game (11th)

4.14 yards per play (2nd)

26.7% 3rd down conversion defense (2nd)

We also beat Texas A&M 57-7. Clemson beat Texas A&M 28-14.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:31 AM
 

you don’t

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You do realize....

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:34 AM
 

that Clemson is playing MUCH BETTER now as well compared to the beginning of the season.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:38 AM
 

Sure, but LSU's defense is not a pushover. Just look at what they did to our common opponent, Texas A&M. If they get a few stops on Clemson, the game is over. Clemson's defense is great, but are they good enough to stop the GOAT CFB QB? No, no one is.

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So he has one great season and now he's the GOAT?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:40 AM
 

LOL

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You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:40 AM
 

before this season?

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:06 AM
 

It is very difficult if not impossible for a goat to complete a pass while he is sitting on his @$$ with blood rushing from his nostrils. Just saying!

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:13 AM
 

Have you seen how Burrow plays after he gets hit?

All I can say is good luck. I can't say that Clemson has played a GOAT yet, but they will on Jan 13. It will be a nice touch on a perfect season just like when we beat Clemson's ### in our perfect season in 1959.

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:37 AM
 

Yeah. 7-0. Real ### whipping. Get out of here

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:40 PM
 

I think The Clemson Tigers were eight and three and unranked, that year. Mighty lsu and Heisman winner Billy Cannon were ranked #1 and unbeaten. Not to take anything away from Cannon, he was great, just not that day against The Clemson Tigers.

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:08 PM
 

burro was on that team wasnt he? he's milked college long enough

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:00 AM
 

1959? Lmmfao! How about our most recent match up? You know the one that happened in the modern Era? Lol too funny!

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Re: You mean the QB that absolutely no one ever heard of...


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 1:02 AM
 

Taking it back to ‘59? Sick burn!


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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:59 AM
 

Clemson's defense is great, but are they good enough to stop the GOAT CFB QB?

Yes. Yes they are! Just watch.

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Re: You do realize....

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:59 AM
 

We may not win but it seems we heard this same story last year. I know that when you have won 29 straight that the odds of getting beat are going up but there is no reason why we should not feel like we can score on Lsu and no reason to think we can't slow down the GOAT. I will be honest until Saturday I really did not know much about him. Just because Espn tells you that you are the greatest team ever does not mean its true. They do not know the difference between an athlete and a transgender and that is about all we need to know about ESPN.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:26 AM
 

You heard the same story last year, but you don't have the same Dline as last year lmao.

LSU hangs 40+ on Venables and it will be easier than UGA's defense.

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There comes a point in smack talk where it’s clear you’re just

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 12:07 PM
 

throwing stuff against the wall to see if it sticks. That was it for me. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Enjoy the game!

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Re: There comes a point in smack talk where it’s clear you’re just


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 1:41 PM
 

^^^Nailed it!!

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:03 AM
 

OK then we will just hand you the trophy. Lol you corn dog ##### bags are too funny.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:09 AM
 

What makes you think that the Tigers cannot hang 40+ against LSU; we did against Bama last year and they had a better defense than the current LSU team in my opinion. I guess we will find out on Jan 13.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 PM
 

When you wake up, the morning of the fourteenth, and you find out that reality is not like it is in your dreams,how will you handle it?

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Re: You do realize....

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:21 AM
 

Our D practices against the GOAT college QB every week. ??

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 12:37 PM
 

You’re going to be shocked at the Clemson defense. That, combined with LSU not being able to stop Clemson, is going to have you very disappointed after this game

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 1:58 PM
 

And you do realize that DeShaun Watson already graduated right?

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:05 PM
 

hes not even the best this year or this decade...I hear he likes goats though

LSU defense = UVA defense
good luck goat lover

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Re: You do realize....

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:56 PM
 

Since you seem to like transitive...

Clemson beat UVA by 45
LSU beat FL by 14
Fl beats UVA by only 8

^ so guess that means Clemson beats LSU by 23?? See how that works?

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:35 AM
 

GOAT? If you mean in terms of arrogance and conceit, then yes, he is the GOAT. By the way, the Alabama team last year was supposed to be the GOAT.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
 

Actually, Clemson beat A&M 24-10, with their one touchdown at six seconds remaining in the game. Who is usually on the field defensively for the last series when you are up 24-3? Hmmm.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:42 AM
 

That's cute and all, but LSU scores twice as many points as Clemson. Burrow will break 2 FBS passing records in this game. But hey, at least Clemson's defense will get to be a part of history as this will be Burrow's crowning achievement.

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Well...


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:46 AM
 

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:47 AM
 

Another site to tell them how good LSU will play. You are as bad as a COOT.

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Clemson will be, by far, the best team LSWho has faced...

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:48 AM
 

this season and it really isn't close. You know it and we know it. Not too sure LSWho can say the same.

The feaux Death Valley Tigers may win the game, but you'll know you've been in a fight. It certainly won't be the pushover or cakewalk some of you deluded goobers are predicting.

Pack your corndogs. You're going to need them.





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Sorry that I responded seriously. Thought we were gonna


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:50 AM
 

actually have some football discussion from an LSU "fan".

I put "fan" in quotation marks because we have rules about what makes a "true fan". You have to actually be an alum to be a true fan.

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Re: Sorry that I responded seriously. Thought we were gonna

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 AM
 

So your logic implies that only Americans that served in the armed forces are true Americans. Kids that have not yet attended college have no right to call themselves true fans either. I could give more examples but this should suffice. True fans of anything are those that help to protect and further the state of an idea or organization. As a 20 year veteran and a 40 year clemson fan this 50 year old life long true clemson fan thinks you should rethink your personal definition of a true fan. Yes it is your definition I only hope here to broaden your mind on this matter.

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Re: Sorry that I responded seriously. Thought we were gonna

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 1:58 PM
 

I guess I’m not a fan then. I’ve missed 4 homes games in 15 years and both my kids are grads. One with a master the other was commander of the band. You know most Iptay are not grads. You sound like 07 and your post is just stupid.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:06 AM
 

Uh first you're on the wrong board. Second LSU averages scoring 3.6 more points than Clemson. I know LSU fans are quite dumb but your math is a tick off. Not sure why an LSU fan is even on this board. You're not on Clemson's level. You're like a little brother who was invited to something for the first time thinking you've arrived. Noting will be finer than to see your slack jawed coach try and verbalize why the SEC just can't beat a lowly ACC team.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 AM
 

Spare us the underdog schtick Dabo "all glory to god" christ-fg. Your team won the last 2/3 national championships.

If anyone is hungry and an underdog, it is Coach Orgeron and Joe Burrow.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:42 AM
 

You have revealed your true character attacking Coach Swinney’s faith. You have no basis for doing so and it is pathetic.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 6:04 AM
 

No reason to even waste your breath on this troll, he hath been squashed...



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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 4:59 PM
 

Just remember numb nuts,it don't always turn out like you think it will. Just ask Bama and Zer0hio State

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The only thing Borrows will break is his a$$


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Re: The only thing Borrows will break is his a$$


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 6:52 AM
 

Why did they have to cancel Sex Ed and Driver's Ed at Clemson?

Too hard on the mule.

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Re: The only thing Borrows will break is his a$$


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:02 PM
 

Why did they take your sister from your family? Because you tried to screw her every night. All you LSU fans can go #### yourselves and your relatives. There's a reason you all talk like you do. It's because normally you have a ##### in your mouth.You are a bunch of inbred swamp donkeys with no class just like OSU.

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Re: You do realize....


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 1:19 AM
 



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Only SEC teams improve throughout the season by playing a


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:58 PM
 

Murderous schedule of NFL caliber offenses and defenses.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:36 AM
 

Gave up 38 to Vandy, 38 to Texas, 37 to Ole Miss, and 20 to Arkansas (may be the worst team in the P5). Not convinced.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:49 AM
 

Maybe you'll be convinced after your QB has to throw passes on 3 NFL first round picks. One being a thorpe award winner, another being first team all american as a true freshman.

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Only 3?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:52 AM
 

Alabama Football Finishes with 10 Former Players Selected in 2019 NFL Draft - University of Alabama Athletics
https://rolltide.com/news/2019/4/27/football-ftbl-draft-day-3.aspx

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Re: Only 3?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:59 AM
 

This isn't A1abama, much better Offense and QB than A1abama. And Clemson lost all of the seniors that beat bama last year. Funny how y'all think you have the same team this year.

I am thankful that last year's Clemson team inspired all of our seniors to return to win a championship. You gave us the recipe for success.

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Re: Only 3?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 12:06 PM
 

Much better quarterback than the 1 legged one that passed for over 400 yards against you? Uh, ok.

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Alabama owns you. You win one year and start crowing


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:01 AM
 

Like a coot. Are you a coot? You smell like a coot.

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Re: Alabama owns you. You win one year and start crowing

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:04 PM
 

With a hint of corn dog.

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Re: Only 3?


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:58 PM
 

And LSU lost all of the seniors that beat the mighty UCF last year. What’s your point? All teams lose their seniors. LOL

It’s more about returning starters.

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Is that why Clemson ranks 1st in passing yards allowed and LSU is 55th?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:02 AM
 

FIFTY FIFTH!

Lol.

We’re doooooooomed!

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:23 AM
 

I see 3 star athletes running wide open in the middle of the field on those world beating DB's all year.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 6:31 AM
 

He just threw on the best CB & secondary in the playoffs. Your Thorpe award winner is a farse. It’s going to be a fun two weeks with you here, but you won’t be on here after the game.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:04 PM
 

He's proven he can do it. What has little Joey who can't become a starter until he transfers done? That's right he won a corrupted award by beating a bunch of SEC overrated cupcakes. lol

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Helps when you cherry pick games against teams that can’t throw the ball

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:37 AM
 

Hurts, Fromm, and Mond are nowhere near what you’re about to see in Lawrence. Saw a good bit of OU receivers running open that Hurts just couldn’t hit Saturday. Trevor makes those throws.

Not saying your defense isn’t good, but it’s certainly not as good as Ohio State’s

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Re: Helps when you cherry pick games against teams that can’t throw the ball


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:14 AM
 

Hurts was actually a Heisman runner-up. Lawrence well.... LOL

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Lawrence has not lost.


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:43 AM
 

Didn't Burrow lose to Alabama?

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:07 PM
 

Yeah that's right but he has one trophy that your boy Burrow will never have. Matter of fact he will have 2 after the 13. Look forward to seeing you back here after the game.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:37 AM
 

Tell me which team of the last 4 had an offense with a pulse, please don't say OU.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:01 AM
 

moodytiger said:

please don't say OU.




Think you just answered your own question there Champ.

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I don't think most realistic fans are underestimating

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:38 AM
 

LSU's defense, but if we are cherry-picking stats the TAM game score was 24-10 (and 50-7 for LSU). It was also the second game of the season for Clemson (not the 12th like LSUs)and I'm sure you could agree that both LSU and Clemson are different teams than they were at game two of the season.

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Why are you on here trying to convince us?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
 

Seems like you’re a little worried it might be true. You definitely aren’t better than Ohio State’s defense and we managed them just fine.

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Re: Why are you on here trying to convince us?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:55 AM
 

LSU DBs > OH State DBs

Stingley, Fulton, and Delpit are all first round picks. That will make Clemson even more one dimensional than they already are.

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ok now you lost all credibility and are just a moran

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:00 AM
 

You seriously think we are one dimensional? Get a clue man. We spread the ball around better than any other team out there. Stop our WRs? That’s fine. We’re gonna run ETN down your throat. Stop him? That’s fine. TL showed he can get it done with his legs. You didn’t even get our A&M score right. Clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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Re: ok now you lost all credibility and are just a moran


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:05 AM
 

You don't spread the ball around better than LSU. You're delusional.

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how did those DBs win all those awards with stats like that?


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:04 AM
 

Probably by playing undisciplined thug SEC football and making some flashy plays here and there.

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Re: Why are you on here trying to convince us?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:21 AM
 

Ok, I’ll play. Give me misinformed Cajuns for a $1000, Alex!

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:15 PM
 

Bwahahaha, what? Checks the NCAA passing efficiency defense stats... Sees Clemson #1, OSU #2, LSU #8... But they are better than OSU?? Thanks for the laugh.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/40

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Re: Why are you on here trying to convince us?


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:09 PM
 

Ok we will just agree that you are an idiot. Enjoy watching Tee Higgins score at will on your dbs. Okudah is head and shoulders above anything you have on the field. Unlike you I actually watch the games.

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Let's talk about the Ole Miss game, K?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:43 AM
 

Just like OH St found out Clemson isn't Mich, Wisc, or Penn St, you guys are going to find out Clemson isn't Ole Miss or a down Alabama team. This game will be a war, and we're bringing artillery you haven't seen yet.

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Re: Let's talk about the Ole Miss game, K?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:17 AM
 

Artillery we haven't seen yet? Like slow, white linebackers that will get torched by Edwards-Hellaire and Randy Moss' son?

Can't wait to see us win those matchups. Unless Clemson's front four can get pressure like Auburn's did, they will not disrupt this offense.

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I meant on offense, stupid. But, you just keep thinking


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:33 AM
 

that blowout of Oklahoma was indicative of this game coming up. I hope your team thinks that, too.

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Re: Let's talk about the Ole Miss game, K?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:24 PM
 

Are you really a coot troll because you don't even know the correct score of LSU vs. AM ?

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Re: Let's talk about the Ole Miss game, K?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:38 PM
 

Alex Jones said:

Artillery we haven't seen yet? Like slow, white linebackers that will get torched by Edwards-Hellaire and Randy Moss' son?

Can't wait to see us win those matchups. Unless Clemson's front four can get pressure like Auburn's did, they will not disrupt this offense.





Why did you have to make it about race? The color of their skin has nothing to do with that. Just as it didn't for Tanner Muse walking down Dobbins to save a TD. Nor when the Blond Streak outran all of OSU defense for 60+ yd TD. Talk stats or trash all you want....take your bigotry somewhere else.

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:06 AM
 

Fastest players with our inside linebackers. I see you’ve been studying a lot of film on Clemson. Years worth

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Re: Let's talk about the Ole Miss game, K?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:33 AM
 

The same Penn St that had trouble beating Memphis? lmao, the big 10 is a JOKE.

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Re: Let's talk about the Ole Miss game, K?


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:18 PM
 

Is that similar to Florida, who had trouble beating ACC Miami? Or maybe UGA, who seemed to have issues losing to 4-8 South Carolina.

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I agree that your defense is vastly underrated.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:43 AM
 

Yall are playing a completely different level now that guys are healthy. I think most knowledgeable Clemson fans understand this.

As long as Higgins and Ross are healthy, I do think we can score points. Ohio St's defense is on a different planet, and that's nothing against LSU. The problem is, we're gonna have to score 40 to win. We're not gonna get a ton of pressure on Burrow. Our secondary is good, but it doesn't matter on some of the throws that he makes. Same way with Lawrence.

Anyway, should be fun.

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^^this


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:46 AM
 

Expecting this game to be much higher scoring than the last (on both sides). Take the over (69.5).

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We may not get a lot of pressure from the dline


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:49 AM
 

pass rush but we will get pressure. We sacked Fields several times and got many other pressures. We also doubled his previous ytd INTs.

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Re: We may not get a lot of pressure from the dline

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:51 AM
 

Burrow throws for 70% when under pressure. Probably not such a good idea lol.

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Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:54 AM
 

You seem pretty insecure.

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Re: We may not get a lot of pressure from the dline


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:04 AM
 

Doesn’t Burrow have an overall completion percentage of 78? 70% under pressure is good, but it’s better than 78.

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Auburn knocked him on his can


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 AM
 

and Kevin Steele was our DC that we booted. Ask Tua about Venables’ defense. Burrow is going to see stuff he’s never seen and he’s going to eat some turf.

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Oh we will get some pressure, but just not consistently.


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:54 AM
 

That's my biggest concern. Against Tua, we made him feel it with just rushing 4. There's been no evidence of that happening this year. So we're gonna be vulnerable in some spots when we're bringing the heat.

I just don't see us holding LSU under 34 points. I think that's best case scenario. But, if we play well, I think we can score 42.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:45 AM
 

I agree your defense is much better now that you have all you players back. It will be another battle, probably a high scoring game with each team scoring in the 30 to 40 point range.

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So we both gave up 1 TD to Texas A&M


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Neat

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:57 AM
 

And Clemson gave up theirs with 6 seconds to go in the game and the water boy playing nose tackle (exaggeration I know). LSU gave up theirs in the 3rd quarter with starters still in the game.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:09 AM
 

And LSU scored twice as many points as Clemson. The team with the most points will win the game, funny how that works.

Hope Lawrence is able to put up 40+. They were lucky to even squeak one out against Oh St, good luck doing that against a better more battle-tested team that is also fully healthy.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 12:29 PM
 

That’s why you score more points.

Clemson could have scored 40-50 on TAMU if they had wanted to.

They were in total control the entire game.

Burro was still in the Oklahoma game when it was way out of hand.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:50 AM
 

But you'll find out

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 10:57 AM
 

What do you think Clemson's D stats would be playing against LSUs competition? When you play against nobody offenses, you get those stats and when LSU played against any team with an offense that had a pulse, they were shreadded. Remember Bama, Ole Miss and Vandy (that should be enough right there).

They better be 3 deep against Clemson because they will be run to death. Or will this be called National LSU Cramp Game to stop the clock and rest. What is your over/under for the number of LSU cramp timeouts? I'm taking over 6!

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:22 AM
 

saddis56® said:

What do you think Clemson's D stats would be playing against LSUs competition? When you play against nobody offenses, you get those stats and when LSU played against any team with an offense that had a pulse, they were shreadded. Remember Bama, Ole Miss and Vandy (that should be enough right there).

They better be 3 deep against Clemson because they will be run to death. Or will this be called National LSU Cramp Game to stop the clock and rest. What is your over/under for the number of LSU cramp timeouts? I'm taking over 6!




LSU's defense held our common opponent to fewer yards and fewer points than Clempson. I guess that answers your question.

Clemson gave up 236 passing yards to Mond, LSU only gave up 92.

Good luck trying to run the ball on a senior-laden DL/LB front, once we shut down your pitiful passing game.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:31 AM
 

You’re an idiot. Please go back to FGF.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:37 AM
 

Hey Alex, you still have answered about being shreaded by decent offenses? You'll be gone from here soon enough.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:00 AM
 

LSU in that timefram4 played Arkansas, TAMU, UGA, and OU. The only respectable offense out of those is OU and even then Hurts was not hitting open men. The defense is improved, but dont try to act like this is a top 10 squad.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:00 AM
 

The fact that you have to come on a Clemson message board and try and convince a bunch of Clemson fans you have a good defense leads me to believe you know your defense is garbage.

If Ole Miss and Vandy can put up a combined 74 points and 1000 yards, I like Clemson’s chances to put up at minimum 40 points.

Just to put things into perspective for how bad your defense is. You gave 988 total yards, which is roughly 27% of the total yards Clemson has allowed all season. You gave up 74 points, which is about 46% of the total points Clemson has allowed all year.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:05 AM
 

Hahaha! 24 year old Joe Burrow is the GOAT. LOL, what a joke. LSU fans are delusional.

A GOAT that had to transfer because he couldn't win a starting job. He has had 1 good season.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 AM
 

let's see, none of Uga, A&M, Ark, rank in the top 50 for total offense. Not sure that's a good barometer for your d. Neither is comparing two games played at different times of the year

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:14 AM
 

I'm ashamed to say it took me 50 years to learn to not to even try to argue these things. LSU is good and Clemson is good. Spot the ball.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:14 AM
 

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:15 AM
 

Hey hero, the last four games includes Arkansas, who scored more against you (20) than they did against Tulsa and scored the same amount against 4-8 South Carolina. Also, UGA’s greatest offensive threat had a bummed shoulder the entire game and their QB is averaging right around 50% completion for last half of the season. But slant these stats to your favor if it helps you sleep better this week.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:15 AM
 

Dude...you sound just like all the F**keyes before the Fiesta and you will feel like them after the NCG too. Go home to your arrogant little boards and let the real teams talk here.

Tell me why the greatest QB ever couldnt make it at his original school? Tell me why all these teams are having to go get players they were not able to recruit to win? Bah...Joe Burrow his head in the sand better be ready for speed that he's never seen on defense. I predict 2 picks at least and one for a TD with the little West Coast offense y'all play. Your receivers aren't close to Bama's level or ours and the long ball will be covered all night so dink and dunk all game until we start jumping those little piece of crap passes JB loves so much...

You had your say, I've had mine so there's no reason to reply because you and your crappy team are insignificant. We played the other best team in the land.

Time for you to get off our board you instigating little turd.

Can someone not ban these idiots?

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 12:00 PM
 

Let's gets some stats out about what could arguably be the greatest single season ever for a college quarterback.

Burrow 371-478 5208 yds
For chits and giggles lets compare that to TL
Lawrence 250-370 3431 yds

So Burrow has more completions than Trevor has completions. That is pretty #### impressive.

We see it every week that Burrow is going to see this and Burrow is going to see that yet he dominates. You could arguably say that Clemson and Georgia have very similar defenses. Burrow absolutely torched Georgia. Ohio St had over 500 yards of offense against Clemson. What do you think Burrow will do??? Bet the over and then some.

TL is a great qb and its crazy to think he is only a sophomore, but Burrow on the other hand is on another planet right now. He's broken the SEC record for TD's and now stands at 55. 77.6% completion percentage is like playing on Madden with all the cheat codes. Clemson will have to blitz Burrow on every play and he is still lethal when opposing teams blitz him.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 12:17 PM
 

TL only played 55 - 60% of the season. Burrow was still playing and passing with a 56 - 21 lead through the 3rd QTR. TL would be a sideline teammate after the 1st possession of the 3rd QTR.

Burrow has padded stats and everyone with a football brain knows it. I guess that's important to some people, not Clemson.

Apples to Apples here:

TL threw 180 - 1st half passes
TL threw 70 - 2nd half passes

JB threw 242 - 1st half passes
JB threw 129 - 2nd half passes

TL doesn't have to pass as much as JB when the best player from Louisiana is ETN running wild for Clemson.

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:17 AM
 

Offense either. We are balanced and will run on you.

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:19 AM
 

i can't take anyone seriously who doesn't even get the score right from their own team or ours

LSU beat A&M 50-7 and we beat them 24-10..

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:20 AM
 

Whatever makes you feel better princess.

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Don't worry...we know how to look up the D stats....including the opponent adjusted SP+ version:
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feidef/2019

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaadl/2019

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28251219/sp+-rankings-conference-championship-games

SP+:


Scoring Defense:
Clemson #1, LSU #28
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28


Total Defense:
Clemson #3, LSU #29
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22


Rushing Defense:
Clemson #16, LSU #22
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/24


Team Passing Efficiency Defense:
Clemson #1, LSU #8
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/40


Passes Intercepted:
Clemson #2, LSU #7
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/457


Team Sacks:
Clemson #18, LSU #44
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/466


Team Tackles For Loss:
Clemson #9, LSU #47
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/467


Passing Yards Allowed:
Clemson #1, LSU #55
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/695



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Georgia- 49th in PPG
Texas A@M- 62nd
Arkansas- 110th

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:34 AM
 

Can’t even get the score right

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.... as cute as the ones little OSU fans brought to TNet .... before the game !! -<img border=">

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:47 AM
 

jeez

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The heisman trophy winner

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:55 AM
 

The heisman trophy winner

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We have a different QB now since A&M he is better than


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The heisman trophy winner

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 11:57 AM
 

Interesting that the games you pull stats from include three of the worst offenses in the SEC as well as a truly one dimensional team that hasn’t faced a top 25 defense all year. I also find it fascinating that you would compare a common opponent at the opposite ends of the season. A&M was our second game and scored a TD literally as the game ended while using timeouts to “make it more respectable”. As I recall your second game of the season was against..... Texas? Is that right? They have a mediocre offense and dropped how many? And how many yards again?

I’m not here to say that we are going to win this game without question and that LSU is some type of horrible team. I’m here to ask you to use some sound logic in your arguments for why your team is so amazing and will kill us.

But while I’m here....... things are lining up beautifully for LSU, you get a home national championship game.. that rarely if ever happens. Joe Burrow is adorable and is having a great year.. I’ll give him that. We are 29-0 just beat “statistically and metrically” the best team in the country after being down 16-0 and yet all the pressure is somehow on LSU. They are supposed to win this game and according you and many others... win it handily. But Trevor Lawrence is a truly generational talent. Clemson has been doing this for a while now. You think your offense is gonna boat race our D because we lost some amazing linemen last year? Ask O 4 I O how that went. Brent Venables is still here... ask Tua where all world got him last year. Again I wasn’t here to say that we are gonna beat LSU... but I am now. We win. That’s what we do. Trevor Lawrence out plays his competition doing WHATEVER it takes every game. Brent Venables out schemes every offensive mind by the end of the game.

One fact that every one conveniently overlooks is that before the first round of games were played Clemson was almost a TD favorite over LSU.. for both teams body of work over the season. One game flipped it. All because Vegas knows how idiots like you bet. If I were you I wouldn’t get too hyped up it’s gonna be a tough fall on the 13th. The SEC may have the best conference in the country but the best team resides in Clemson SC and we don’t give a #### about where you come from or who you think you are.

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I would hope so, you played teams with crap

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offenses. Ole Miss - ranked 81, UGA ranked 48, ARK 110, and TAM 62.

Congratulations on your "improvement".

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 1:42 PM
 

28-10 DA. And didn’t have starters in after the 7 minute mark of the 3rd. You have a real rude awaking coming

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 1:50 PM
 

Put up the rankings of the anemic offenses you played. Ooops.....

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 1:59 PM
 

Geaux home!

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Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:03 PM
 

For LSU fans that think that Clemson has a crappy defense like Oklahoma who was missing half their starters on defense, good luck thinking you'll put up 63 on Clemson, or even close to 63

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 30, 2019, 2:10 PM
 

Alex Jones said:

The defense struggled with injuries for the beginning of the season and were also adapting to being on the field more with a new, spread offense. Looking at the last four games of the season when the unit recovered from injuries (how that number would rank nationally):

270 yards per game (4th)

16.25 points per game (11th)

4.14 yards per play (2nd)

26.7% 3rd down conversion defense (2nd)

We also beat Texas A&M 57-7. Clemson beat Texas A&M 28-14.


You seem like you need reassurance that your defense is good. I don't think you will get it on this site.

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come over here trying to convince US you're good....


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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 12:57 AM
 

Dear Corndogger,

LSU’s defense is legit. Kindly leave now.

-Clemson Fan

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 2:09 AM
 

Two problems with your stats.

First, and most important, you're ignoring who you played in those four games. Oklahoma has a pretty good offense, though they were missing a number of players in that game. However, the other three are terrible. UGA is the #61 total offense, Texas A&M is the #72 total offense, and Arkansas is the #110 total offense.

Second, you're not comparing apples to apples. You're calculating LSU's stats for 4 games and comparing it with other team's season stats. Look at just the last 4 games for everyone. You don't want to open that can of worms.

If we start comparing like that, then in the second half of the season, Clemson is the #1 scoring offense (50.7 points), the #1 Total Offense (572 ypg), the #1 Scoring Defense (11 points per game), and the # 1 Total Defense (252 ypg). In that same time period (see, that's how you do that), LSU is the #4 scoring offense (46.1 points), the #2 total offense (568 ypg), the #43 Scoring defense (23.28), and the #42 total defense (361 ypg). BTW, in those 7 games, the first string for LSU was still playing in the fourth quarter in 6 of them (Burrow played his last series against Arkansas with two minutes left in the third). For Clemson, the first string played in only one fourth quarter, the game against Ohio State. So, Clemson had better stats in every key metric, despite the first string playing fewer reps. LSU doesn't seem to stack up pretty well if we just compare that, huh?

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 2:50 AM
 

Careful quoting Alex Jones' posts, with everyone going through a marking thumbs down to all of her posts, you could get marked down accidentally

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 AM
 

Regardless of what happens here in a few weeks LSU is one and done. back to mid SEC you go.

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Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:04 PM
 

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Re: For Clemson Fans That Don't Think LSU Has A Legit Defense


Posted: Dec 31, 2019, 5:21 PM
 

LSU is a great team. We will have to study the Vandy, Texas, Old Miss and Alabama games to learn how to score more than 35 points. If BV can figure out a way to hold LSU to less than 35, we just might have a chance.

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LSU IS IN TROUBLE.

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