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FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 9:15 AM
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All-TigerNet [5860]
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Been gone for a while
Apr 23, 2014, 9:17 AM
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what is the FFRF?
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CU Guru [1346]
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Funny one.***
Apr 23, 2014, 9:19 AM
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Freedom From Religuon Foundation
Apr 23, 2014, 12:39 PM
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An anti-Christian hate group. Basically they want atheism as the official state religion.
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Re: Been gone for a while
Apr 23, 2014, 1:13 PM
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Find them, Feel them, Rough them up, Forget them
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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This is why I love having Dabo as our coach
Apr 23, 2014, 9:19 AM
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We have had success on the field and very little problems off of it. The issues he has had he has dealt with with Fairness and equality across the board.
He is a Great Leader of young men!!
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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I joke that this is one reason that God is going to bless
Apr 23, 2014, 12:06 PM
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Clemson with a National Championship......I wish I could have given this 2 thumbs up!!
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Ring of Honor [21020]
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Good job Dabo! Now let's beat those Dawgs and get the
Apr 23, 2014, 9:22 AM
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season off to a rip-roaring start!
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great statement Coach!
Apr 23, 2014, 9:24 AM
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GO TIGERS!
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Solid Orange [1335]
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Seriously - what is FFRF's motive for singling Clemson out
Apr 23, 2014, 9:44 AM
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When i bet the majority of schools do the exact things we do. Why Us?
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Anyone else find it ironic
Apr 23, 2014, 9:46 AM
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That we have the Chad Kelly issue and he is kicked off the team and then the FFRF moves in. He doesn't seem like the type of person that exemplifies the values of the program or of any faith...no judgement, but actions speak louder than words. There may be nothing to this, but I just found it interesting.
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Would be ironic, except for the...
Apr 23, 2014, 11:19 AM
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......fact that the complaint by the idiots at FFRF was sent to Clemson on 4/10/14, prior to CK being kicked off the team.
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Re: Would be ironic, except for the...
Apr 23, 2014, 11:46 AM
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....but in the time frame that he may have already been in disciplinary problems with the coaches...what was that time frame up to the incident with Miss SC, which she said happened weeks prior to his dismissal? I've kinda thought it could be a possibility too, especially considering they said they "need a plaintiff" after also saying they have a statement from "someone not on the team" (i.e. what good is it if the complaint lodged to them came from a guy who was just kicked off the team and has had several issues with the coaches and his actions...so they are hoping they can get another to come forward that doesn't have a vendetta), but you never know.
It could also stem from the fact that Dabo loudly speaks his faith (thanking God when the media talks to him after a bowl win, etc) and when they saw it, they started looking into past things (like Nuk's baptism) to see if it looked like more than just a faith statement. Groups with agendas always have a reason to single a certain team out...it's likeley because of Dabo proudly showing his faith or
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Orange Elite [5304]
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Re: Would be ironic, except for the...
Apr 23, 2014, 11:59 AM
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or...that a certain player might have known he was getting beat at a spot and found a reason he could use as an excuse to why he didn't win it then decided to transfer...which just backfired with his dismissal.
In the end, it's interesting how weak they sound when they talk about having a statement/complaint from someone (also being forced by a media question to acknowledge this person is not part of the team...not saying he wasn't prior to a timely dismissal) but they need a plaintiff to go to court...I kinda feel this says more than is really being told.
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Solid Orange [1373]
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Re: Would be ironic, except for the...
Apr 23, 2014, 1:21 PM
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I'm pretty positive you are way off. First, you are trying to line up facts that either don't exist or are misplaced.
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Re: Anyone else find it ironic
Apr 23, 2014, 1:17 PM
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Kelly had nothing to do with it I'm betting....
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Re: Seriously - what is FFRF's motive for singling Clemson out
Apr 23, 2014, 11:12 AM
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There are 155 FFRF members in South Carolina. All of this started prior to Easter which must be a significant time frame for atheist. FFRF paid money to advertise in Time Square in New York City that Jesus is a myth, so any of their S.C. Members or people like them could have stirred the pot.
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Re: Seriously - what is FFRF's motive for singling Clemson out
Apr 23, 2014, 1:26 PM
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FFRF has seemed to focus on the Upstate the past couple of years. Complaints filed against Pickens County and Greenville County School Districts, and IIRC others in the area as well. Seems to be a pattern, I think they look at the Upstate as a Bible region and if they can knock the Bible down here they will succeed anywhere.
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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 9:46 AM
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excellent statement with zero mention of them. exactly what they rate. Instead he gives his principles for players and recruitment.
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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 9:47 AM
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Your absolutely right!! It seems that FFRF is just looking for a fight and thought attacking Clemson with its rich values would cause a reaction, but it did the opposite it should have made Coach very proud that he is doing something right.
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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 1:31 PM
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I bet it has open a lot of eyes to people who didn't know that much about Clemson and Clemson FB. If I'm a parent letting my kid go to school 4 or 500 miles away from home to play FB. Clemson would be the kind of program I would feel safe about. The coaches at Clemson aren't getting arrested pissing in the public streets, or being photographed at the races shirtless holding onto his Schlitz
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Well...that's pretty-much perfect. ******
Apr 23, 2014, 9:46 AM
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Great job, Dabo!***
Apr 23, 2014, 9:49 AM
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WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FOOTBALL?!!!
Apr 23, 2014, 9:56 AM
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Re: WHATs IT to do W FOOTBALL?!!! YOu dont have a prayer
Apr 23, 2014, 10:17 AM
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of understanding if you have to ask!!!
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I KNOW!!!***
Apr 23, 2014, 10:20 AM
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BUT RELIGION AND FOOTBALL ARE NOT THE SAME!
Apr 23, 2014, 12:15 PM
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THERE IS A DIFFERENT BORED FOR THAT STUFF! I JUST WISH IT WOULD STOP I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
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This group is attacking the FOOTBALL coach.
Apr 23, 2014, 12:46 PM
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They have a problem with the way the FOOTBALL program is operated. Seems pretty clear to me that it is related to FOOTBALL.
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WAIT, YOU MEAN . . . I NEVER PUT THAT TOGETHER!
Apr 23, 2014, 12:50 PM
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I'm appalled.
Apr 23, 2014, 9:56 AM
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I believe we are not giving good athletes with a less than stellar character a chance to compete at Clemson.
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Re: I'm appalled.
Apr 23, 2014, 10:06 AM
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We pass on those and let USuC, Florida St., and Auburn have them.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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What he said. The FFRF doesn***
Apr 23, 2014, 10:05 AM
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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What he said. The FFRF doesn't recognize class and honesty
Apr 23, 2014, 10:06 AM
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so it will go over their head.
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Dabo for President
Apr 23, 2014, 10:35 AM
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I believe one day Dabo will be the AD at Clemson and could eventually be the President of the University. Couldn't think of a better face and future for our sports and school.
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Re: Dabo for President
Apr 23, 2014, 11:58 AM
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AD, maybe, President, no. If you aren't from an academic background you normally need to be a politician to become a university president.
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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 10:51 AM
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I back swinney 200%!!!!! If you choice not to believe thats fine. But Dont tell me I can not believe!! That would be the same thing you are acussing coach Swinney of just reversing it!
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Amen Coach...now git er done for 2014..beat Noles & Coots!**
Apr 23, 2014, 11:06 AM
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GoTiGERS!
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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 11:52 AM
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Great statement Dabo!! This speaks highly to players and recruits of what is expected at this school, and doesn't really dig into anything beyond his own choice of showing his faith. Way to go.
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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney statement on FFRF complaint
Apr 23, 2014, 12:21 PM
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Great statement by Coach Swinney- strong, clear, concise and never mentions the name of the complainant, nor will I. If my son was being recruited by a major college I certainly would want him to be guided by a coach like Dabo Swinney.
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Orange Blooded [2184]
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FFRF founder has to be an SEC Alum working for ESPN***
Apr 25, 2014, 3:54 PM
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