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All-In [40656]
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Just curious to see the demographic
Apr 2, 2014, 11:39 AM
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of people in the lounge. And figure out which one of you are causing this country to go downhill.
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Oculus Spirit [81925]
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The problem is people voting strictly on the party line...***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:40 AM
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All-In [40656]
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The poll didnt ask for responses***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:40 AM
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Heisman Winner [111709]
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Re: The poll didnt ask for responses***
Apr 2, 2014, 12:25 PM
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he does this to you too? what an #######..
BTW, i do not vote, Democracy of, by, and for the people is an illusion in this country. I side with the dems because pubs are boring and pander to the anti evolution crowd..
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Voting for a political party is stupid***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:40 AM
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Do you wonder why you come off as a ##### occasionally?
Apr 2, 2014, 11:43 AM
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That's like: What's your favorite food? Brussels sprouts, or grape soda? I DIDN'T ASK FOR COMMENTARY, JUST VOTE.
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Heisman Winner [105622]
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Dems would say Grape Soda, amirite?***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:44 AM
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All-TigerNet [11208]
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drank....grape drank***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
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I think drank is different from the grape soda
Apr 2, 2014, 2:06 PM
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Kinda like the lemonade in the 2 liter bottles which is more in line with a drank... right?
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Heisman Winner [105622]
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grape soda and PURPLE drank are completely different
Apr 2, 2014, 3:54 PM
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yet both satisfying after a long hard day of panhandling or writing lyrics for my next album.
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Heisman Winner [137988]
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People are explaining that your three choices don't
Apr 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
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encompass the variety of reasons, directions, and parties to vote for based on circumstance. You don't want to hear the explanation, and wonder why you get crap data or meaningless answers.
But carry on, yo.
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All-In [40656]
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Because the poll isnt supposed to encompass every option
Apr 2, 2014, 11:49 AM
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Its a simple poll that you can either take part in, or wont take part in. Its not meant to find out your specific ballot, but to get a general idea of how people vote.
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It would be if the parties didn't have consistent ideology
Apr 2, 2014, 11:50 AM
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But since Democratic leadership has moved so far to the left socially over the last 20 years while Republicans have generally remained to the right of center (I suppose some would call this "progress," but progressives always assume history has led up to whatever they think), not voting for a Republican will always end up meaning either a vote taken away from potential conservative policy or a vote for liberal policy. Besides, you can nearly always look at a candidate's platform and tell whether they're a Republican or a Democrat without them having to say so.
As a result, at least in national elections, it might be smarter to vote along party lines than it is to vote for a person.
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Do you really believe that the GOP leadership remains
Apr 2, 2014, 11:53 AM
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right of center? If so, explain how our country has been yanked to left of center.
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Uh, yeah
Apr 2, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Our country has been yanked to the left of center because Republicans lost elections. That seems obvious.
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You may have your causes and effects mixed up a little.***
Apr 2, 2014, 12:18 PM
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People didn't vote for Obama because of his policies
Apr 2, 2014, 12:50 PM
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His policies poll much worse than he does. And, as history has shown, once somebody is elected they have the ability to move the entire political debate towards their own views by creating new legislative realities. So, counter- intuitively, the popularity of ideologies follows the election of somebody of that ideology rather than ideological shifts being indicated (at least primarily) by elections.
This is another reason why I argue that just voting for somebody you like and trusting that they're "a different kind of Democrat" or "a different kind of Republican" isn't better than voting party line.
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All-TigerNet [11208]
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No. What's more obvious is the GOP "leadership" in
Apr 2, 2014, 12:20 PM
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lock step. Your boy Graham is chief among them.
Guess what. I will not be voting for him AGAIN. Just as last term. I voted for the Democrat because, he was much more conservative than Graham.
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I still see voting for a party as, in itself, stupid
Apr 2, 2014, 11:55 AM
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"not voting for a Republican will always end up meaning either a vote taken away from potential conservative policy or a vote for liberal policy"
I just 100% disagree with blindly voting based on party. And doubly disagree with this "Vote for the guy with an R by his name or else you are directly voting for the vile left". It is, in my estimation, the perpetuation of the either/or two-party system which does very little to find truly qualified candidates and rather keeps the power in the hands of the few decision makers.
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That's simply the truth in national elections
Apr 2, 2014, 12:45 PM
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Whether we like it or not, we have a two- party system. There are pros and cons: having only two dominant parties ensures that decisions are made either by majorities or by large pluralities; if the parties become ideological (as they have over the last 40- 50 years) instead of pragmatic coalitions (as they were for most of American history), then they allow for contrasting policies and governing philosophies; but only two major parties cannot represent much nuance beyond two major governing philosophies.
As things are now, we have one party that is center- right and another party that is on the left (or, what some people might call "neo- liberal" because it is at least weakly committed to market solutions while also subscribing to progressive social policies). However, the diversity of ideologies on the right combined with recent national electoral failure has led to a sort of ironic ideological splintering of the base. Each faction wants Republicans to be more like them, and insists the party would do better electorally if it catered more to their ideology and less to others'. One of the most commonly heard complaints is that the Republican Party is JUST LIKE the Democratic Party because they aren't accomplishing enough things that each faction likes. So they push for the party to become more ideologically pure.
This is ironic because the perceived leftward shift in our politics is almost entirely due to the Democratic Party's shift to a more pragmatic, coalitional politics that acts as a trojan horse for their progressive ideology. Democrats capture identity groups whose Democratic votes become a sign of belonging to the group, thus voting Democrat is less ideological for many than it is tribal. Many Republicans, by contrast, aren't satisfied unless they get the perfectly qualified candidates with the perfect views. Their attachment to the party is less important than their attachment to whatever ideology, but they don't realize that the only chance for any right of center ideology to have a chance at being expressed in government right now is for Republicans to win elections.
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You need a few more options on that poll
Apr 2, 2014, 11:41 AM
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I've voted for both and probably will again.
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Purpose is to find out is to see who votes where
Apr 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
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Im guessing youve voted one more than the other though?
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I've casted a total of 10 votes in my lifetime (because I
Apr 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
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don't vote for people/issues I know nothing about). And yes, I've voted for people in one party more than the other, but I didn't keep track. And that's not what you asked.
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All-In [40656]
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Guess the simplest poll can be the hardest in the lounge***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:47 AM
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CU Medallion [54758]
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did someone say something about the
Apr 2, 2014, 11:52 AM
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hardest pole in the lounge??
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Heisman Winner [137988]
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Don't blame me.
Apr 2, 2014, 11:41 AM
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I voted for Kodos.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I vote against whoever is currently in office.***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
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whomever***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:48 AM
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either or***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:49 AM
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It's whoever if I want it to be...This is AMERICA***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:52 AM
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Heisman Winner [105622]
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JOJO for President. Your pole is stoopid. Some of us
Apr 2, 2014, 11:43 AM
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don't need a party to have an identity (or another group to hate). Hell, I hate all other people, regardless of your political affiliation.
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All-In [40656]
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I have the same sentiment
Apr 2, 2014, 11:44 AM
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I hate everyone equally.
But this is supposed to be a very general poll
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Rock Defender [54]
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You didn't put trannies as an option in the poll.***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:44 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81925]
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The good news is clemsonrulez wasn't old enough to vote
Apr 2, 2014, 11:45 AM
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to put Sarah Palin in.
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All-In [40656]
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Your math is 100% wrong.***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
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math is just a theory, brah***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:52 AM
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They cant get married in my State, so I dont recognize them
Apr 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
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as human beings at all. Same goes for gays.
You either support 100% or youre a homophobic bigot. (isnt that how it goes?)
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Rock Defender [54]
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There's no law that says a tranny can't get married.
Apr 2, 2014, 11:48 AM
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as long as he's marrying a woman, right?
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Im gonna have to see some sausage and a side of taco
Apr 2, 2014, 11:50 AM
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Before I let it slide
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I wasn't aware that's what it took to get a marriage license
Apr 2, 2014, 11:51 AM
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I don't remember having to show my ##### at the courthouse.
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You must have gone to the wrong courthouse***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:56 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Back in my day, we didn't know if we'd married a tranny
Apr 2, 2014, 12:01 PM
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until the wedding night. Because we were traditional. AND WE LIKED IT THAT WAY!
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99% of respondents indicate
Apr 2, 2014, 11:48 AM
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this is the dumbest poll they've ever seen.
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Rock Defender [54]
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^^another vote for trannies***
Apr 2, 2014, 11:50 AM
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It's amazing how silly the reactions to this have been
Apr 2, 2014, 12:55 PM
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It's like people have never been asked which party they usually vote for. I'm sure major polling firms would NEVER ask such a stupid thing.
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Rock Defender [54]
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^^^count another tranny vote.***
Apr 2, 2014, 12:59 PM
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I don't see an option for
Apr 2, 2014, 12:07 PM
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fiscal conservative and socially moderate.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Unicorns don't exist brah.***
Apr 2, 2014, 12:07 PM
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Did they deaded along with common sense?***
Apr 2, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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No it dies annually in primary elections.***
Apr 2, 2014, 12:24 PM
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Ain't that the truth***
Apr 2, 2014, 1:30 PM
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Wouldn't that still be Republican?
Apr 2, 2014, 12:57 PM
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I can't think of a Democrat in national politics that fits that description, but there are a number of Republicans who do. I'm much more socially conservative than I am fiscally conservative, but again, all the Democratic social conservatives at the national level have either disappeared or just rubber stamp socially liberal policies whenever they come up.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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I don't think so.
Apr 2, 2014, 1:20 PM
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I really don't like the Republican party and they continue to screw up. The problem is all conservatives are linked with the Republican party. With no scientific data to back this up, I would venture to guess that all true Republicans call themselves conservative, while true conservatives don't call themselves Republicans.
I may have just confused myself and made my head asploded.
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All-In [28802]
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Maybe
Apr 2, 2014, 1:28 PM
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But that was the point I was making here: http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=15217493
That conservatism isn't only about winning elections is both its strength as a philosophy and its weakness as a political ideology. Political parties are vehicles for winning elections, but a lot of conservatives think a party that wins elections but doesn't completely conform to their thinking isn't good enough for them. Meanwhile, their disaffection for electoral politics leads to the left winning elections and to even greater dissatisfaction with Republican leaders who have to figure out how to herd the conservative cats into a coalition that can win.
The conservative movement came to power in the 80s and shifted the political debate largely because of a charismatic leader who political moderates and political know- nothings voted for because they liked him (neither of these two groups votes for candidates primarily on ideology or policy). But what I think people forget is that anti- communism was an issue that united libertarians, neo- conservatives, social conservatives and moderates in a way that no issue does today. The closest thing I can think of to such an intersectional uniting issue is "gay rights," except on the liberal side.
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6 people voted for obumacare***
Apr 2, 2014, 1:56 PM
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What if 'Write In Own Name' is not one of the answers?
Apr 2, 2014, 1:57 PM
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WHAT THEN?!?
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110%er [6099]
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bi-partisan
Apr 2, 2014, 2:01 PM
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it's the only way
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Funny enough, the results of this poll seem pretty accurate***
Apr 2, 2014, 3:51 PM
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