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Re: Old angry white guys with guns are on a roll this week. This
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:02 AM
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Yankee hospitality.
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You think the 84 yo white guy in KC was angry
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:08 AM
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Or just scared when someone woke you from your sleep bangingbon your door at 10:00 at nite?
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Do you typically shoot anybody on your porch after 9:15pm?***
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:11 AM
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My point which you seem to ignore
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:21 AM
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Is you don’t know YET what really happened. What was the 84 year old’s version? What was the kids version?
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You've said more than once now that this 16 year old
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:29 AM
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kid was "banging" on the door, yet the articles you posted said he rang the doorbell, and that's it. One of those sounds far more aggressive and/or threatening than the other. It sure feels like you have a narrative in mind.
Do you think if somebody rang the doorbell of an 84 year old man at 10pm, and he opened the door and saw a white 16 year old standing there, he immediately opens fire?
Gosh, I dunno. I'm not going to push a narrative, but I have my suspicions.
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The old man says the kid was trying to open the exterior
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:33 AM
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door (the kid says he wasn't). But, no banging mentioned...
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Re: You've said more than once now that this 16 year old
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Apr 18, 2023, 1:25 PM
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okay 19b, let's read your lies.
You have someone beating on your door at midnight. You look through the window and it's a black teen in a hoodie. You opening the door?
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That's for trial.
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Apr 18, 2023, 11:03 PM
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And even then, the "version" of events coming from the parties involved is on the level of opinion, not fact.
Look, I know this is an unfair characterization of what you're trying to say, but what it is coming across as is that news reports should hold on publishing until trial, on the premise that this is where fact-gathering happens? That's ridiculous.
I would assume that CNN attempted to reach the man or his counsel (if represented at the time) for comment, and was not given any -- or I hope that's the case because if you are accused of a crime you absolutely should not be offering public comment (or talking to the police) except through counsel. CNN also reached out to the counsel for the boy's family, they were available and gave comment. CNN printed what they had because that's exactly what they're supposed to do.
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But CNN can’t ever be right, because they are “da debil.”***
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Apr 18, 2023, 11:07 PM
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True. But they didn’t just settle for +$700M.***
Apr 19, 2023, 8:43 PM
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He must have thought she was black.***
Apr 18, 2023, 9:11 AM
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SOP... or something like that.***
Apr 18, 2023, 9:16 AM
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Didn't see a single ethnicity listed in this piece.
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:18 AM
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What assumptions are you making?
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Exactly, but of course it was "listed" in the OP. Go figure.***
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:23 AM
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That's an amalgamation of multiple stories I have seen
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:24 AM
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no assumptions needed, it's a sad truth that the majority of the shooters and the victims are black in that story.
My larger point was to highlight the silliness of trying to highlight the two old guy's race in the OP. It's irrelevant. They're both idiotic, trigger happy irresponsible gun owners whether they're Inuit or Chinese.
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Similarly...
Apr 18, 2023, 10:24 AM
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It's absurd to see chemclem, NC Tiger, et al, posting random crimes as a "look at this black person being violent!" like they love to do.
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The mind cannot comprehend how big 350,000,000 is,
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Apr 18, 2023, 10:32 AM
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without some frame of reference. With that large a sample size, tell me what you want to say, and I'll find the anecdotes to support it. If you begin with a human characteristic that is universal in all history and places, even if the occurrence is very rare you can guarantee finding them at a rate of, say, one a month. You can then use those to almost any destructive end you want. Statistically, at once a month it never really happens, but you can tell any story you want with them. Can anyone honestly deny that this is happening?
How many times do white people and black people come into contact with each other? Of those contacts, how many people get shot, and under what circumstances? Of those, how many are white shooting black? How many are black shooting white? Answering those questions is actually hard work, and risks concluding what most of us intuitively believe, that is is not very many. So those with agendas use the available anecdotes.
The reaction against such inflammatory reactions is not racially based. It is anger at those who dishonestly pursue their destructive agendas. We are a good, though flawed, culture by almost any measure. We need to be building from that, not tearing it down.
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BRB
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Apr 18, 2023, 10:41 AM
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I’m gonna go take some Stephen Hawking pills and read that again.
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Ha. Even he used boards of stats to explain things that size
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Apr 18, 2023, 10:49 AM
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"Once in a while I look in my telescope and see a weird star. The universe is ending."
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why do the libs not make a huge spectacle when mass shooting
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:36 AM
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occur like this? When they gonna storm the capital over this mass shooting? Or the other 100 mass shootings a yr in Chicago.
odd.
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When a white person kills a black person, it's a lot worse
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Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 AM
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than when a black person kills a black (or white) person. Besides, when black people kill other people, it's white people's fault anyway, because white people have created a system which has oppressed black people for so long, it has resulted in conditions that breed poverty in black communities, which naturally results in more crime and more murders.
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You seem to be catching on
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Apr 18, 2023, 10:45 AM
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next week you won't know what a woman is
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Re: It's not a mass shooting, for one thing.***
Apr 18, 2023, 2:56 PM
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35 shot, 8 killed during weekend of violence in Chicago Chicago faced a wave of gun violence this weekend that saw 35 people injured and eight people dead, according to the Chicago Police Department.
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Re: It's not a mass shooting, for one thing.***
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Apr 18, 2023, 3:19 PM
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Yeah, that's not what a mass shooting is.
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How about a mass OF shooting...? I doubt they delineate
Apr 18, 2023, 6:03 PM
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in Chitown.
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Re: Angry young.....oh nevermind
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:46 AM
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Teens gonna teen. Please ignore literally every crime statistic, however, which makes it clear who is committing the gun violence in this country. Heres a hint, it isn't "old white men"
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Re: Old angry white guys with guns are on a roll this week. This
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Maybe I’m the crazy one, but my first instinct when I encounter strangers isn’t to start shooting at them. People are so afraid of one another now, everyone has their group of “others” and finds easy reason to dehumanize them. Sad state of affairs. Was thinking recently about the young mother in the Kroger parking lot in Irmo who was shot and killed over what I’m sure was some dumb argument. I don’t know what it will take to change the national mood, but the apocalyptic pessimism and hate for each other just seems to be everywhere you look, getting pumped into people’s brains 24/7 if you let it.
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It stems from current antagonistic trends
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:29 AM
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like highlighting people's races in situations where it really is irrelevant to stoke dissension.
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That's 1/2 horse poop. Lies abound. I still think there are
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:38 AM
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Russian and/or Chinese trolls somewhere high-fiving saying - "See? I told you we could make them attack their own Capitol."
Or "See? I told you we could make them so effed up that they would still call it racist when 5 black people kill another black person."
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Why are so many old white guys with guns angry and fearful about so many things.
Apr 18, 2023, 9:41 AM
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Does the media feed this emotional outrage?
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Current crime waves?***
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:43 AM
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Re: Media definitely contributes to people ignorant of the fact
Apr 18, 2023, 9:55 AM
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That means nothing if this guy had a crime committed against him recently. Just say "you don't know".
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Why do you want a nanny state?***
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That’s what a well-regulated militia is for, right?
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Apr 18, 2023, 9:16 PM
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I’m sure this is precisely what the founding fathers had in mind.
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Re: Old angry white guys with guns are on a roll this week. This
Apr 20, 2023, 3:19 AM
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Maybe his aim was bad.
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Wow - what a load. The “Stand your ground”
Apr 20, 2023, 11:32 PM
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possibilities over the last few days were white v black; Hispanic v white/black; white v white; and black v white. But - yeah - this proves Stand your Ground encourages violence against Black Americans.
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Stand your ground laws are counter-productive...
Apr 21, 2023, 9:20 AM
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They certainly encourage an escalation of violence by rewarding a "shoot first" mentality. It raises the dangers to everyone, but I think it is reasonable to say that people are going to act more impulsively when someone doesn't look like their neighbor.
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