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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101244]
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Did you notice how spaced out Tajh was after LSU game?!
Feb 22, 2013, 7:53 PM
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Saying...he looked almost dazed when the awards were given out on the platform. Look at him when others were speaking and he really wasn't tuned in to what was being said.
Saying..the man had been a beast in saving our arses from being beat by LSU...he was completely exhausted since he & Nuk carried this team in the last part of the 4th quarter (his Dad had mentioned their special chemistry & all the hours they had practiced pitch & catch off-hours...and it showed Gentlemen in that game!).
In my 55 years of watching some very good Çlemson QB's..I've never seen one stand in there and do what Tajh did during that game..especially in the final minutes of the 4th quarter. What a warrior...one that decided to come back and even do more for himself & Çlemson.
Çan that be possible? We will see come late Åugust against UGa...and if he & his teammates equal the effort in the Çhick Bowl...then Tigernation will be electrified to no end.
GoTiGERs...Stand Up & Fight Men!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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I am with you Bill! Can't wait to see these young men
Feb 22, 2013, 7:56 PM
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back in uniform and on the field...I can't wait to watch them stand up and fight!
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Orange Blooded [2196]
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Yep...like he was in an intense zone and couldn't get out.
Feb 22, 2013, 8:04 PM
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We need a ton of "zone" playing next year!!
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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I loved what Tajh did, but I have to say...
Feb 22, 2013, 8:04 PM
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Charlie Fukin Whitehurst in the Tangerine Bowl vs Texas Tech will always be the definition of standing in there and giving ones all in a Clemson football jersey. A few times I was like, please god just stay down brother...
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All-American [590]
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Amen Brother
Feb 22, 2013, 8:21 PM
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I thought they would kill him. It took real courage for him to stay in that pocket and take that punishment play after play.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Common thread.....
Feb 22, 2013, 8:21 PM
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Weak, no strength OL. We have got to do something to get stronger. It is the reason we have not one standout NFL ready linemen in years and years. But of course we have an award winning S&C coach, so must be something else.
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Scout Team [161]
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you are a fool...
Feb 22, 2013, 11:52 PM
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with an agenda.
We have had strong members of offensive lines. You don't have to look beyond this last class with Dalton Freeman to see that. Our OL has done great, and another year or two with strong recruiting classes and we will have both great OL personnel, but also the depth necessary to make it lethal.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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You talking about the Dalton Freeman that
Feb 23, 2013, 12:13 AM
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was not invited to the NFL combine. Perfect example of a guy that got screwed by bad S&C program.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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has more to do with size. his frame just won't put on more
Feb 23, 2013, 1:30 AM
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"good" weight, from what i understand. i look for him to get a fa deal, if he so chooses. that is better,imo, than being drafted in the last couple rounds.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Re: has more to do with size. his frame just won't put on more
Feb 23, 2013, 8:55 AM
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Good point. At Clemson I was friends witth a guy just like you discribe, smaller frame. With the tremendous weight training program we had back then and with the mental toughness instilled by the S&C coach (andHC) he was the center of the most famous NFL OL, small frame and all.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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And the S&C coach shoulld be
Feb 22, 2013, 8:39 PM
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embarrased. But the same weakness happens year after year. If you lose for the forth time in a row to Scar, with Tajh,AE,Nuk,Sammy,Ford,...you have a problem. And they will be the stronger team this year and year after year until a change is made.
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Orange Beast [6326]
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Seems like that...
Feb 22, 2013, 9:04 PM
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s & c coach had his guys a lot more ready than lsu. s & c had nothing to do with losing to usc. IMO, it was going away from the run that was working.If you say any different, not sure you actually watched the game
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Right..everyone in the county knows we are physical team
Feb 22, 2013, 9:52 PM
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justt ask WV, RalphFreigen, anyone on Scar, just ask the pro scounts. Ask Furman or Ball State.
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Orange Blooded [3350]
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What are you talking about?
Feb 22, 2013, 10:16 PM
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You can't blame every loss on S & C.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Re: What are you talking about?
Feb 22, 2013, 11:53 PM
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This started with two other people (not me) talking about our QBs getting the crap beat out of them. When is last time you saw a physical teams QB get beat on all night.
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Scout Team [161]
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Is that red herrring I smell?
Feb 22, 2013, 11:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure they were all referencing strength and perseverance of the QBs in both of those games, not the strength and conditioning of the OL. Frankly, you are the only one going to the notion that anything this thread was initially talking about had to do with Strength and conditioning. Sounds like you may have a bit of an agenda here...
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Dang right I got an agenda
Feb 23, 2013, 12:07 AM
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Ending the streak. And we will be the under dog going into the Scar game again. SOS put his first string QB at the end of his players standing look at DS all game..."look we are STRONG enough to beat you with our second string QB".
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CU Guru [1218]
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They DID, 81...
Feb 23, 2013, 12:12 AM
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and they did. If that doesn't stick in your craw, I don't know what will.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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CU Guru [1218]
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Boyd was an IRON MAN but USuC....
Feb 23, 2013, 12:05 AM
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brought waaaay more heat than LSU. I've watched both games numerous times. Carolina's D was better, period. They brought it, every play.
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Re: What are you talking about?
Feb 23, 2013, 8:45 AM
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> This started with two other people (not me) talking
> about our QBs getting the crap beat out of them.
> When is last time you saw a physical teams QB get
> t beat on all night.
We weren't a great program back then. We had come off two decades of mediocrity and were just getting back into the facilities arms race and starting to attract better recruits. Under Tommy Bowden, our OL recruiting strategy was to offer smaller, more mobile kids. That guaranteed we wouldn't be physical up front. It had nothing to do with Joey Batson.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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Dood, you need to stop hanging out on STS.
Feb 22, 2013, 11:35 PM
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Those guys run a website not a D1 S&C program.
They started bashing Dabo the day he was hired because he wasn't their pick. They have stuck their noses in every crack of Clemson football and bashed everybody and everything to the point they looked like morons when we trounced LSU's D, our D gave them 8 3 and outs and stopped their running game.
S&C was their last stand so give it a rest.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Re: Dood, you need to stop hanging out on STS.
Feb 23, 2013, 12:00 AM
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DS came around on Napier and Steele when he couldn't argue it anymore.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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My contention is that Dabo had no choice in keeping
Feb 23, 2013, 12:14 AM
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those two as long as he did. Did you notice the increase in coordinator's salary about the time he hired Chad? Do you think The Chad would have taken a paycut to come to Clemson? Do you honestly believe that Dabo didn't have to give up some of his salary to make his coordinators feel well paid/
I know you can't answer these question until you go and run all this by STS so I'll look for your response when you get back.
While you are over there ask them how many QBs stood in the pocket in a spread offense against LSU's d-line and didn't get their butts knocked off. Also find out what they think about our Offense playing 100 downs without cramping and dropping out like flies as did LSU's (SEC) defense.
They said our S&C program is lacking and they are too stubborn to admit that they are wrong. They have sheep who follow them blindly without recognizing that their disdain for Dabo taints their reason.
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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You left out that
Feb 23, 2013, 12:17 AM
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they didn't credit the S&C for our defense. It was Les Miles' ineptness and that we had their snap count apparently. They refuse to give any credit to the staff and players
Off topic, but they want Dabo to oversign and cut, yet disdainfully remark how Leggett "runs off" players. They will literally complain about everything.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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I'm not arguing against STS.
Feb 23, 2013, 12:52 AM
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It's their website and they can say what they want. Most of the time they don't look stupid. I really enjoy some of the break downs they do and I've learned a lot about the X's and O's of football from them.
I was critizing STS because they've tainted our fellowship here on T-Net with their disapproval of Dabo.
I understand getting mad when we lose a game. I can tolerate someone taking a shot at a player or coach when things go wrong but I can't handle someone who wants a Clemson coach fired without giving him a chance. Those guys got off Dabo ### because he proved them wrong by winning 11 games last season.
The S&C is their last holdout and I suspect it might take a NC trophy to shut their emotional azzes up.
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Wrong
Feb 23, 2013, 1:34 PM
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what it will take is Blabo consistently fielding a physical team. Beating up on 10 pansies don't help
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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Like he has control over our conference or schedule?
Feb 23, 2013, 5:05 PM
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We supposed to force the SEC to take us or what?
Your slanderous comment toward Dabo offense me.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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So he picked them but it's not his fault???
Feb 23, 2013, 12:24 AM
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Do you honestly think any top coach would accept the lack of strength year after year? Wait, all the top programs come after our S&C coach every year.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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Re: So he picked them but it's not his fault???
Feb 23, 2013, 12:44 AM
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You said "DS came around on Napier and Steele when he couldn't argue it anymore."
I said, and we all know, that he had to give some of his salary to hire them. He was limited in what Clemson money he could spend to hire the OC and DC. Do you think he went after the best with those limitations?
It's like this, you hire in a Hardees and expect IBM wages? It was our management that limited what Dabo could pay his coordinators so he gave them some of his money. Do you think Chad and Brent would have come to Clemson for the same money we paid Napier and Steel?
Answer that honestly. At least be honest with yourself about this. Dabo was given a chance but wasn't given the money.
If you are one of the holdouts against Dabo just tell me now and I'll hit the ignore button and stop wasting my time trying to share logic and reason. I've found when emotions clouds one's thinking there is no way to reason with them.
You are all over the spectrum with your contentions and I suspect this is your problem. You argue like a politician.
You change the subject when the conflict overwhelms you. Then lose another argument, change the subject again and lose another argument, then when the night is over you'll claim victory and go about thinking you've defended your position when most reasonable folks would have concluded their error.
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Athletic Dir [1164]
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Let try to clarify a few things.
Feb 23, 2013, 8:44 AM
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First,, I am a Dabo fan in every way except his support of Batson.
Second, I don't knit pick his decisions.
Third, I just want us to play hard noised football.
Fourth, When I watch us play, for the most part we don't have a lot of push off the ball on either side. And the majority of the time we get driven backward in different situation.
Fifth, If you look at the body shapes and mussel tone of our players,something is not working.
Last, If STS is a website, I have never been there.
Just want our guys to at least be on a level playing field, if not better.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102960]
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Re: Let try to clarify a few things.
Feb 23, 2013, 5:09 PM
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Be honest, you just blasted Dabo's choices for OC/DC so either you are not thinking straight as I accused you or you are just a liar.
"First,, I am a Dabo fan in every way except his support of Batson.
Second, I don't knit pick his decisions."
Please check one box
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He was in the zone.***
Feb 22, 2013, 8:17 PM
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Letterman [283]
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Totally in the zone.******
Feb 22, 2013, 8:28 PM
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All-TigerNet [5824]
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He was thinking that it may be...
Feb 22, 2013, 8:18 PM
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... his last few minutes in a Clemson uniform. I thought he looked dazed as well. It seemed odd until I read his comments later.
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Game Changer [1876]
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agree-later comments explained it.***
Feb 23, 2013, 2:08 AM
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Clemson Icon [24646]
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Re: Tajh is already practicing with Germone Hopper.
Feb 22, 2013, 8:27 PM
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Boyd is already practicing with Germone Hopper during the off season. I hope Boyd and Hopper can develop that same chemistry. I really admire Boyd's focus and work ethic which will only rub off on the younger guys.
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Orange Blooded [3258]
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Not working with Sammy?***
Feb 22, 2013, 8:28 PM
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110%er [8681]
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I think it's kind of a given he's working with Sammy***
Feb 22, 2013, 10:45 PM
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Team Captain [499]
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T Boyd and Whitehurst put on the two most heroic
Feb 22, 2013, 8:47 PM
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QB efforts in Clemson QB history that I have seen. Rodney got beat up pretty bad in Columbia but Boyd and Whitehurst took more hits in vunerable throwing position. Rodney never even set up to throw plus we only threw 15-20 times back then. Whitehurst was Tex Tech bowl game for youngsters.
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Tach = Ironman!!!***
Feb 22, 2013, 8:53 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101244]
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Yep, as 1 Tnetter said it appeared Tajh was thinking GONE to
Feb 22, 2013, 9:26 PM
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the NFL with Nuk...and I agree.
Somehow he, his Family, Coaches, NFL people got him thinking staying at Clemson...and Boy is that going to be something to see this year with some good line play, WR's & better D.
GoTiGERs!
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CU Guru [1325]
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It's the best, but also the most corageous performance I've
Feb 22, 2013, 9:38 PM
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seen out of any of our QBs, or any QB in the nation last year, easy. Better than Woody's game in Atlanta or Charlie's in Cootlumbia.
.. Having Tajh back is so big it can't be put into words.
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Cool, calm, collected and mature
Feb 22, 2013, 10:57 PM
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is what he was. He knew he was representing Clemson on national TV
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110%er [5776]
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Thanks for the reminder - Need to follow his example at work
Feb 22, 2013, 11:57 PM
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tomorrow. Up against similar situation (in my own little world of course).
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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no need to worry, just run your version of our offense and
Feb 23, 2013, 3:12 AM
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they won't be able to stop ya! go make it happen!
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Rival Killer [2820]
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Entirely possible he had slight concussion.***
Feb 23, 2013, 9:23 AM
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Why did this thread....
Feb 23, 2013, 9:25 AM
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Turn into a "S&C" thread???
The OP posted about TAJH BOYD!
Stay focused fellas!!
Tajh Boyd was exhausted after the CFA Bowl. He gave his all....and it showed.
A true leader he is, and we are dammed lucky to have him as a Tiger!
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