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Tiger Titan [50655]
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I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:24 PM
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Alcohol is sold there, including beer, wine, and liquor. People consume these beverages a lot. I haven’t seen fights breaking out or kids being exposed to debauchery.
This might shock some of you, but I’ve found people there to be just as kind and well-behaved as I do at Clemson sporting events.
We will be fine with alcohol sales at Clemson games.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:25 PM
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I used to go to Raiders game in LA and Oakland. There were fights at every game. I hear Philly is similar.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:32 PM
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Eagles stadium has a holding cell or cells for the extreme rowdies.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 29, 2025, 12:15 PM
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I don't know if it's still there, but Clemson used to have a jail/holding cell under the stadium also.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Feb 4, 2025, 5:23 PM
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The Panthers do as well. 2 of my buddies found out the hard way.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 11:05 PM
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Lmao Clemson ain't those 💩 holes....both are dumps and are the worst examples for comparison....try again!!!
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Jan 29, 2025, 12:36 PM
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They are NFL games.
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Re: Places like Oakland and Philly are not representative of most NFL stadiums.***
Jan 29, 2025, 12:37 PM
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Well...they are NFL games. Also, I bet there is plenty of of fighting in parking lots etc at other venues. I have no problem with beer at Clemson games. I am just pointing out they get rowdy at NFL games.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 25, 2025, 3:17 AM
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The drinking was so bad in late 1990’s Philadelphia had a court in the stadium. Drinking at games in New Jersey has led to some bad behavior too.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 25, 2025, 6:17 AM
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Well, when you talk Philly - the local fans are ‘holes to begin with; arrogant, obnoxious and entitled .. alcohol only fuels their normal bad behaviors.. it’s expected and they deliver ..
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 25, 2025, 8:32 AM
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Fox borough too back in the day when I went to games there.
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National Champion [7875]
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More revenue is a good thing. Now more than ever Clemson needs it.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:29 PM
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Besides people forget tailgaiting isn't all lemonade and sweet tea at the Valley. Alcohol has been drank before, during, and after the games since the first.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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I've been to a bunch of pro games (usually the upper deck with the other riff raff) and I've seen plenty of people get in fights or screaming at each other. Are they all, or mostly, alcohol related? Hard to say but it's definitely not an unusual occurrence at all.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:37 PM
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Incorrect, Clemson is a perfect family atmosphere and everywhere else is the fallen and sinful world.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:45 PM
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lol we are not sin free at Clemson lol.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 25, 2025, 12:12 AM
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"we"
LOL
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 29, 2025, 12:12 PM
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lol did you go to school at CU? I did, we were all drunk as humanly possible for those games.
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CU Medallion [20831]
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I attend a lot of NFL games. Most recently in Nashville...
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:39 PM
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...for a Titans home game. Dude right behind us, clearly drunk as a skunk, kept buying beers and spilling them all over me and my son and others around us. All the while slurring and cussing like a sailor. So don't tell me it's not an issue.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games. Most recently in Nashville...
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:43 PM
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I am sure you have seen people wasted at Clemson games too though. I have seen people puking before. I have seen a fight before as well. I agree though that alcohol is bad news generally, but it seems the bad people will find a way to be a mess.
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CU Medallion [20831]
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Of course I have, but they're not buying it and spilling it...
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:48 PM
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...down my back. That's a little different than peeps overindulging at their tailgate and acting a fool.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games. Most recently in Nashville...
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Oh I’ve seen girls in the student section at Clemson games passed out sleeping…. The students are rowdy as ####. We used to get up for noon games and start shotgunning beers at 6am. We’d all chug beers out of a cowboy boot too, and we were drunk as heck and rowdy in the stadium but we knew how to keep ourselves in line and enjoy the game. One of the rowdiest games the student section got when I was there was the 2011 game against FSU when we beat them 35-30. They were something like top ten and we went NUTS!
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only at SEC school and the U ;-)***
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:44 PM
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95% of all crimes happen with Alcohol or drugs involved. It’s a fact it contributes to behavior that wouldn’t have happened without the spirits!
The question is - Would it continue to be a family atmosphere at the game?
Would this affect the game that’s changing pro before our eyes?
Will fans change the way they act being Clemson Gentleman & Ladies?
I’m sure the board will carefully consider what’s best for our Tigers!
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 24, 2025, 11:15 PM
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I am with you about the problems of alcohol.
Some are saying that it won't make things worse, because those wild drunks are drunk and drinking anyway.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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I’m not taking this whole ordeal seriously, but I just want to point some things out to you.
People’s behavior at the game is not the only reason
How is it going to affect the percentage of car accidents and incidents on the road after the game? Especially a rainy game or a game with some type of inclement weather.
There are a multitude of factors here, cause and effect factors.
You are pointing at only one, and it happens to be in the lower tier of concerns from selling alcohol at games.
And somehow just because all of that had happened by your personal experience it makes it all the same for everybody else.
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If car accidents are your concern then I assume you also want to ban alcohol
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Jan 25, 2025, 1:12 AM
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at tailgates.
Because plenty of people leaving Clemson, SC after the game have been drinking all day with a blood alcohol level above the legal limit, and are driving cars.
Seriously, you should be for a zero alcohol tolerance policy at games.
For that matter, are you also against alcohol being served at other events (such as Fall for Greenville) and at restaurants and bars?
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Re: If car accidents are your concern then I assume you also want to ban alcohol
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Jan 25, 2025, 2:06 AM
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I have no care for this either way, in fact I’ll be someone getting alcohol during the game. Responsibly, as I am sure they be cautious of anyways.
I’m not against it at all. I am just trying to help you because you don’t know how to view things past surface level.
I knew you wouldn’t understand the point of my response, as always
When important people sit down to make this type of decision about the distribution of alcohol, they consider more things than simply how people act at the game when they drink.
You narrowed it down to all importance on fan behavior and misconduct at the game. Like there will be no more problems at all if people are acting right during the game.
Oh wow, yes! You are right! I totally forgot that people drink before and after the game! How could I ever let that slip my mind?
Dude, selling alcohol at the game is just adding onto the amount that people are drinking before and after.
It doesn’t simply make ZERO difference to sell at the game.
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Re: If car accidents are your concern then I assume you also want to ban alcohol
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Jan 25, 2025, 8:09 AM
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One difference between selling alcohol and people bringing their own is liability. If someone chooses to drink at the tailgate before driving home drunk, it's on them if they have an accident. If Clemson sells it to someone for consumption without reasonably accessing if they've over-indulged, Clemson could bare some legal liability. If it's just a fender bender, lawyers probably won't get involved and Clemson probably won't get sued. If there's a death, whoever has the deepest money bag will get pulled into it. But if the decision is based purely on money, then as long as you make more than you have to pay out in wages, legal fees, and settlements, then you do it.
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You do realize that NFL stadiums have mass transit opportunities.
Jan 29, 2025, 12:37 PM
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Unless I have been living under a rock, Clemson is limited in mass transit opportunities that go to Seneca, Anderson, Greenville, Spartanburg, Greenwood, Charleston, Columbia, Sugar T!t, and Pumpkintown.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Jan 29, 2025, 12:25 PM
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Studies have shown in the 117 of 133 fbs school that serve alcohol it hasn’t increased DWI/DUI/accidents much at all. Most people plan a designated driver. At the end of the day we are still Clemson people. We tend to be smarter than the average coot.
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It's alot more than NFL....it's almost every public event that is held!***
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Ok ,NOW I know youre FOS
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Jan 25, 2025, 1:19 AM
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I’ve been a season ticket holder for the atlanta falcons for over 20 years. The stupidity I’ve witnessed is always alcholol fueled. There is no way you have attended N NFL game and not seen the same. I now know you are a fraud clown for sure…
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"Kids being exposed to debauchery", peculiar choice of words...
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AI Synthid Recog software specifically identified this fragment of thread starter's post as: NAMBLA phraseology
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Re: "Kids being exposed to debauchery", peculiar choice of words...
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Wait what. JK is a troll ######, but pedo…?
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Re: "Kids being exposed to debauchery", peculiar choice of words...
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When you're mentally ill, you're mentally ill.
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"Kids being exposed to debauchery", peculiar choice of words...
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AI Synthid Recog software specifically identified this fragment of thread starter's post as: NAMBLA phraseology
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Re: "Kids being exposed to debauchery", peculiar choice of words...
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What do dat mean?
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Jan 25, 2025, 7:46 AM
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Slither, Slither, Hiss & Dither
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Jan 29, 2025, 12:22 PM
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We all knew it was coming even chuckie cheese sells alcohol. One question are they still going to let people leave and return to the game. I figure from a money standpoint they would prefer to not let people leave and return because at halftime they will want you buying the drinks in the stadium.
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Back in the day
Feb 3, 2025, 5:15 PM
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Beer at Chuckie Cheese got me through a lot of kids’ birthday parties with my sanity intact.
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It might shock you, but I've seen the opposite.***
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buuuuttttt Clemson is so special and unique
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this can't possibly be true
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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Jan 25, 2025, 8:52 AM
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If you can afford to 0verindulge at NFL games you must be a millionaire.
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
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I’ve been to a lot of pro games as well and alcohol is a factor in most of the incidents that have seen inside stadiums. The same thing does happen at games where alcohol is not sold inside the stadium but at a lower rate. Your response to the poaster who expressed concerns about accidents driving home after the game is simply incorrect. A lot of people drink at tailgates before the game but then have a 4+ hours period of not drinking during the game prior to driving home. I know this is how our group operates. Yes, there are people who sneak alcohol into the stadium but not nearly as many as the amount who will drink if it is made legal and readily available. It will result in more issues there is no doubt.
All that said, I don’t have strong feelings either way about alcohol sales in the stadium. Unfortunately, any time you get 80,000 people together there will be some who cannot control themselves. This just gives them more opportunity.
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As with any consumption and vice, alcohol is not the problem.
Jan 29, 2025, 12:31 PM
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It is the abuse of it that causes problems, especially if it is a driver and/or a mean, obnoxious drunk.
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Define "a lot"
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TIAIA
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Feb 3, 2025, 5:05 PM
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It sets a bad example for kids. No good will come from it. Hope you are not on the roads
driving around Clemson after the games.
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You say it like it never happens
Feb 3, 2025, 5:15 PM
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I’ve been to plenty of stadiums where alcohol is sold and it certainly increases the chances that the crowd gets bolder and more aggressive.
But not always
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Feb 4, 2025, 4:46 PM
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Why would you attend an MFL game?
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Feb 4, 2025, 5:23 PM
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You have not been to too many. Had a couple of buddies that got jumped at a Panthers game and got slap tore up. You can’t see everywhere in a stadium but folks I know that go regularly have some great but honestly sad stories.
Talk to some folks that attend Philly games…
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Feb 4, 2025, 5:30 PM
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I believe everyone here is missing JK's attempt with the OP to dis Clemson fans and our gameday experience overall with her comparison to NFL crowds and fans. She is a very clever, albeit pathetic, troll.
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Sounds like even longer lines to me***
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Re: I attend a lot of NFL games.
Feb 4, 2025, 5:44 PM
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I remember being at a Wake game. I think the were playing ND.
All of a sudden a classy lady stands up whirls around and look at the 3 drunks sitting behind her. One of them had thrown up all over her. She had chunks of barf in her hair.
The police did come and escort the 3 Miami fans away but not until after they ruined her day.
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Not my experience at all
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NFL fans at games, esp in the upper deck, su ck.
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