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Game Day Hero [4409]
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Context matters - DW4 and CK2 comparison
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Sep 12, 2023, 8:15 PM
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A few weeks ago, Dabo said CK2 was like DW4. It led to headlines like, “Cade Klubnik: Clemson QB reminds Dabo Swinney of Deshaun Watson” and sensational hot takes like, “The hype around Klubnik is building, and Dabo Swinney’s recent quotes comparing him to former star quarterback and National Champion Deshaun Watson will surely fuel the hype even further.” [both a real headline and exert from an article]
However, context matters. If you read between the lines of what Dabo actually said… he was saying that Cade makes mistakes but responds, and that reminds him of Watson. That might have been a subtle indicator that we should expect some mistakes from CK2 this season. I have confidence he’ll grow into a great QB - he has all the ingredients but that cake isn’t baked yet. Needs more time in the oven.
I’ll end my rant but I just feel like a lot of the preseason talk gave folks (myself includes) extremely high expectations. Media definitely helped fan that flame too.
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Paw Warrior [4812]
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Re: Context matters - DW4 and CK2 comparison
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Sep 12, 2023, 8:27 PM
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Thats a fair rant i think.
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Oculus Spirit [42668]
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Re: Context matters - DW4 and CK2 comparison
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Sep 12, 2023, 8:43 PM
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I just feel like a lot of the preseason talk gave folks (myself includes) extremely high expectations. Media definitely helped fan that flame too.
Just remember coach speak, media reports, rumors from practice observers, preseason and early season rankings are all rat poison.
Nice post.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Context matters - DW4 and CK2 comparison
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Sep 12, 2023, 9:00 PM
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I agree with you 100%... and we have a long way to go to see what this Tiger team is made of. Perhaps Duke competes for the ACCCG. Only time will tell.
In our second Natty, with DW4, we barely beat Troy and people were humming and hawing, but it turns out Troy was a very good team that year.
What sticks out this year that I haven't heard any season prior is the chatter about winning the Natty from Dabo and many players. I have never heard any of that out of Dabo or a Dabo team. It was always about the five goals and taking it one game at a time.
What changed? Is it the times? But... it was obvious Duke came out ready to play and we did not. We need to come out and be ready to play FAU and better handle business before looking ahead to FSU.
I truly think the Duke loss will be forgotten shortly and I do feel very good about our chances vs FSU (I can look ahead, the team can not). ND has a very tough road through Ohio St and USC.... but... and its a big but... but, if ND comes to the valley undefeated, and we can find a way to stop their running attack and win the turnover margin. I think a CFP is completely in our hands. And who knows.... we might have a re-match in Charlotte vs Duke.
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Game Day Hero [4409]
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Re: Context matters - DW4 and CK2 comparison
Sep 13, 2023, 8:58 AM
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Would love to see that play out!
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Clemson Sports Icon [55403]
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Tyler Grisham wasnt on staff when DW was here.
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Sep 12, 2023, 8:59 PM
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Something the stats don’t tell you.
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Remember watching that like it was yesterday***
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Sep 12, 2023, 9:50 PM
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Paw Warrior [4812]
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Re: CK2 is no DW$
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Sep 12, 2023, 9:56 PM
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Ironically that showcases another similarity, they both are willing to push the ball into tight windows. Deshaun was just better at it, he had a beautiful back shoulder fade and could lead guys where he wanted them.
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: CK2 is no DW$
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Sep 12, 2023, 10:08 PM
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Similarity doesn’t equal same. Dabo never said they were the same, just similar.
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Heisman Winner [79829]
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Right by that dawg defenders ear hole.
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Sep 13, 2023, 2:55 AM
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DW4 was rewarded by being benched until it was too late.
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Standout [340]
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Heres the other similarity: as backups, CK2 and DW4 were
Sep 13, 2023, 3:18 AM
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Afforded cult status by the fans.
One grew to earn it, and the fans will almost unanimously claim they were in on that assessment even earlier than The Chad was (who by the way recruited the kid in 8th grade), lol.
The other has yet to earn it and it appears he won’t in this year.
The fans, being mature adults all, absolutely crucified their immediate forebears; both having better-than-average talents but not truly capable of the QB1 big chair, nor really strong enough leadership-wise either. The fans will also almost unanimously claim their very own prescience in assessing these failures.
The fans having no skin in the game except the overly self-important locale of their parking spaces, almost unanimously bring little to no X-and-O capability, and are thus generally just a-holes with a megaphone.
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Clemson Sports Icon [55403]
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We don't have any Charone Peake's on this team, either.***
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Sep 13, 2023, 8:21 AM
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Game Day Hero [4409]
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Re: CK2 is no DW$
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Sep 13, 2023, 8:31 AM
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Beautiful.
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Hall of Famer [8153]
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Dabo should stop comparing kids that haven't done anything
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Sep 12, 2023, 10:11 PM
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To past legends. It doesn't do anybody a lick of good. Don't compare DW to Michael Jordan. And don't compare Cade to DW.
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Standout [340]
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But he can compare Tigerbalm to Oprah
Sep 13, 2023, 3:21 AM
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some histrionics are actually relevant.
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