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Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:31 PM
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Total Offense:
2011: 26th
2012: 9th
2013: 9th
Scoring Offense:
2011: 23rd
2012: 6th
2013: 8th
Wins:
2011: 10 (tied for 25th
2012: 11 (tied for 9th)
2013: 11 (tied for 9th)
With 32 wins, Clemson is 8th in the country in wins during this span.When was the last 3 year period when Clemson was in the top 10 in wins? 1989-1991, with 29 wins. Against an easier schedule.
Name the coach primarily responsible for this. Chad Morris.
Some of you seem to have no idea what you're talking about or have any knowledge whatsoever about our history. Our history shows one of he top 25 programs of all-time, but the period we're in right now is one of the best ever. Where did the no-knowledge elitists come from?
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We all knew he was leaving when given a HC opportunity
Nov 28, 2014, 9:34 PM
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The timing is garbage. And our offense this year has been offensive. I'm sure most have enjoyed Morris being here, and just expressing current frustration.
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Re: We all knew he was leaving when given a HC opportunity
Nov 28, 2014, 9:37 PM
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Yep absolute bush league the way it is handled. smu trying to get mentions on our tv exposure tomorrow. Tacky and smacks of desperation.
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Not to mention, more time to sway recruits
Nov 28, 2014, 10:08 PM
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Baaaaaaaad timing
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I Don't Think TNeT Had Anything to do With Morris Leaving
Nov 28, 2014, 9:37 PM
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It Matters None That TNeT Does Not Appreciate The Accomplishments.
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:39 PM
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It's more about, what have you done for us this season?
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:41 PM
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but you have to consider the future NFL players he had during those years....THAT is what made him look better
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Dabo and Jeff Scott***
Nov 28, 2014, 9:55 PM
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Ellington, Allen, Cat Man, Bryant***
Nov 28, 2014, 9:58 PM
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Re: Dabo and Jeff Scott*** AGREED FOR RECRUITING THE
Nov 28, 2014, 10:05 PM
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Talent for Morris to work with. Dabo will replace CM and we will continue to be successful. Dabo is the person that put everything together, NOT Chad Morris
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But Venables Dan Brooks and Marion Hobby were Dabo's
Nov 28, 2014, 10:07 PM
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best hires. And Reed is looking like a gem. Our defensive staff is among the best coaching staffs in the nation
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No
Nov 28, 2014, 11:07 PM
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Lots of teams have just as good or better overall talent than us but haven't succeeded at nearly the level as us. Good teams typically have good players, but good players don't always equate to good teams. As simple as that.
We haven't finished a non-probation season with less than two losses in about 33 years. Morris is the primary reason why we're inside the top 10 winningest schools since 2011. He's one of the best OC's in the country, that's why.
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You are just wrong
Nov 28, 2014, 11:44 PM
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Right now 3 Clemson players are in the top 25 in the NFL for receiving TD's, two are rookies. That is not to mention players like AE, Nuk, Boyd, et el that made him look great.
I said it earlier, if Chip Kelly were at Clemson under the same adversity that Chad has faced, he would be 100 times better.
Chad can thank a lot of great players for what he has..
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Not wrong about anything. Of course Morris can be grateful
Nov 29, 2014, 12:29 AM
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for having some good players, but so can every other OC who is considered one of the best OCs in college football.
Blinders buddy. Take them off.
Chad Kelly wouldn't do squat with Cole Stoudt as his QB, and his leading RB and WR being true freshman.
How long have you been a Clemson fan anyway? You do realize these years with Morris are some of the best in 120 years? What are you seeing otherwise??
Again, Morris is one of the best OCs in the business. Hands down. The facts CLEARLY back that up. Some of you guys try entirely too hard to deny the positives about Clemson. There's something wrong with that man.
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The success of SMU will be telling...***
Nov 30, 2014, 2:10 PM
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Re: You are just wrong
Nov 30, 2014, 2:06 PM
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You said it more diplomatically than I have lately; however, completely agree that the 'Chad' has benefited more from talent than his coaching ability. Looking forward to a fresh outlook on offense sooner than later.
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:41 PM
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Coach Morris has done a great job for us, but since this is in the national news, it's only reasonable for fans to be discussing it. I wish the best not only for Coach Morris, but for all of our coaches and their families.
We want a program that's so successful that other schools are interested in our staff.
Go Tigers!!
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 1:33 AM
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The only thing he brought that was good was the quick snap. Which he got away from. His offense was Nuke and Sammy. And he should have used them more. He will crash and burn. He is no t a really good coach.
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:54 PM
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I disagree, I think he's been an innovator and brought a lot of energy and excitement to the team. Just look at the players we're getting. You can't have improved stats year after year and he's had to deal with injuries and departures more so this season. I think we're going to be fine if he leaves, but don't be down on him.
Go Tigers!!
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 10:04 PM
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We'll see what happens at SMU. Without Watson our offense is as bad as Va or Va Tech. Do you disagree with that?
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:50 PM
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Football changes. Chad's system was revolutionary. The Defensive Coordinators have caught up to him.
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:56 PM
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Thats silly. You dont keep up do you?
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:52 PM
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Dabo for hiring him and Jeff Scott for the talent he had to work with?
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 9:52 PM
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This situation reminds me a lot of the Oliver Purnell era. Everyone thought we could do better when he left in the middle of the night. When he left.... well we almost lose to High Point tonight. I do hope we can maintain those #s.
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0-3 versus South Carolina. 1-3 versus FSU.***
Nov 28, 2014, 9:54 PM
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Re: 0-3 versus South Carolina. 1-3 versus FSU.***
Nov 28, 2014, 9:57 PM
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Little drummer boy you are a fool
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Re: 0-3 versus South Carolina. 1-3 versus FSU.***
Nov 28, 2014, 10:00 PM
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And he started out 1-0 and lost the last 6
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What is he right about and how did he prove anything?
Nov 28, 2014, 10:30 PM
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We're 8th in wins since Morris got here. FSU was 3rd and USuCk was 4th over the same span.
FSU has 4x the talent we do. We beat them in 2011, the defense gave up a good lead in 2012, and in 2013 they didn't lose to anyone. The wiped everyone out. And Morris wasn't the reason we lost to them this year. Flukey game for sure.
USuCk has had just as many NFL players as we have. They've had some of the best defensive teams in the United States. In the last 3 years we turned it over 15 times to their 3, including 6 turnovers last year. If you want to put 2011 on Morris alone, then so be it. In 2012 we had a secondary without 3 starters, and that was the primary reason USuCk was able to beat us. Last year's 6 turnovers were not the OC's fault. We win by a sizable margin without 2 or more of them. We haven't played them yet this year, so we'll see.
Can you offer anything to dispute the higher level facts?
Total Offense:
2011: 26th
2012: 9th
2013: 9th
Scoring Offense:
2011: 23rd
2012: 6th
2013: 8th
Wins:
2011: 10 (tied for 25th
2012: 11 (tied for 9th)
2013: 11 (tied for 9th)
With 32 wins, Clemson is 8th in the country in wins during this span.When was the last 3 year period when Clemson was in the top 10 in wins? 1989-1991, with 29 wins. Against an easier schedule.
Name the coach primarily responsible for this. Chad Morris.
Some of you seem to have no idea what you're talking about or have any knowledge whatsoever about our history. Our history shows one of he top 25 programs of all-time, but the period we're in right now is one of the best ever. Where did the no-knowledge elitists come from?
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LOL. You mean the 2014 with a shot at a BCS bowl in spite
Nov 29, 2014, 12:24 AM
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of losing our best QB, our second best QB, and where our leading rusher is a freshman (after losing our best RB, a freshman), and our leading receiver is a freshman followed by a sophomore? You mean that 2014??
LOL. Take off the blinders buddy.
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So we're gonna time travel and play in a BCS bowl?***
Nov 29, 2014, 6:35 AM
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we lost our best and 2nd best qb?
Nov 29, 2014, 7:05 AM
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But chad and dabo said cole was our best qb and named him starter over DW to begin the season.
We've also not scored an offensive touchdown in 2 games this year. RIDICULOUS.
Even FCS schools score against top 10 ranked opponents.
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Tajh, Sammy, and Nuk***
Nov 28, 2014, 9:55 PM
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Eh, who needs coaches.
Nov 28, 2014, 10:30 PM
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LOL
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Sammy, Nuck, Bryant, Ellington, Boyd and Hot Rod
Nov 28, 2014, 9:58 PM
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Were the primary reason...Morris is a good coach, Im just worried about his abilities when talent is minimal.
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Re: Sammy, Nuck, Bryant, Ellington, Boyd and Hot Rod
Nov 28, 2014, 10:08 PM
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That nails it. he is not a really good coach. I could have said throw it to Sammy.
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I mean, we have had NFL starters on the team in years past,
Nov 28, 2014, 10:14 PM
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Hell, even our kicker is an NFL starter...We should have a better record against the coots and FSU with those players
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So let me get this straight.. all you have to do is trot out
Nov 28, 2014, 10:26 PM
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a few good players and you should be expected to finish 8th in the country in wins over a 3 year span even without good coaches? Please stop.
FSU was 3rd and USuCk was 4th over the same span.
FSU has 4x the talent we do. We beat them in 2011, the defense gave up a good lead in 2012, and in 2013 FSU didn't lose to anyone. Blew everyone out. And Morris wasn't the reason we lost to them in 2014. Flukey game for sure.
USuCk has had just as many NFL players as us. They've had some of the best defensive teams in the United States. In the last 3 years we turned it over 15 times to their 3. 6 turnovers last year. If you want to put 2011 on Morris alone, then so be it. In 2012 we had a secondary without 3 starters and that was the primary reason USuCk was able to beat us, and last year's 6 turnovers were not the OC's fault. We win by a sizable margin without 2 or more of them. We haven't played them yet this year.
Your logic is flawed. We're one of the best teams in the country since Morris got here, and he's the primary reason.
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Not saying he isnt a good coach
Nov 28, 2014, 10:37 PM
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Just that coming into a roster full of stellar talent made him look better than he is. I am curious to see how he rebounds during the rebuilding years...guess we will never know
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He's one of the best OCs in the country, and THAT's why
Nov 28, 2014, 10:57 PM
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we're among the top winningest programs in the country since he got here. I wrote last time that players don't coach themselves, and they don't. There are tons of examples with teams having more overall talent than us but not winning as much.
Again, who was our best coach in history and did he have good players? Why didn't he win more?
And let's not lose sight of two things - this season is NOT a failure. We lost our best QB by a long shot, and the QB is the most important player on the field. Cole wouldn't have started for any other team in the ACC but he was out best option when DW went down. There isn't an OC anywhere in the world who could have us running efficiently with Cole Stoudt's mental and physical limitations.
It strikes me as very shortsighted how some people want to throw Morris under the bus for a potential BCS season when our best QB (BY FAR) was out. Makes no sense at all. Would our offense have been tons better with Watson in the whole year?
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Re: He's one of the best OCs in the country, and THAT's why
Nov 28, 2014, 11:01 PM
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I have one question. Why didn't CM make improvements with CS over his 4 yrs here?
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So Chad was starting his freshman year?***
Nov 28, 2014, 11:12 PM
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Answer......
Nov 28, 2014, 11:15 PM
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CS played the very best he can and CM did all he could do to win when Cole was the sole starter. we were 4-1 over that span, and there wasn't a darn thing CM could have done to make Cole better at GT. He was checked out. Bottom line is CM was not the reason we lost any of our games this year. Teams lose. But if you want to fault CM and CM only for the 3 losses this year then you better be ready to credit him for being one of the top 10 winningest schools in the country since he got here. "76"Clemson, how many times have you seen this type of productivity from Clemson is your lifetime? You'd think a guy with 76 in his handle would have this type of wisdom.
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Re: Answer......
Nov 29, 2014, 6:02 AM
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Disagree, CM lost us the GA game by admittingly playing conservative in the second half as we were always deep in our own zone.
Did not use the weapons he had to break out just ran basic packages hoping one broke free.
That in turn wore out our defense in the 3rd leading to the unfortunate 4th qtr.
If he is such a good coach then he would have dialed up the play calling to catch GA off guard and flip the field.
Sorry my friend but that game is on CM in my opinion.
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Sounds like Chad Morris, himself lol***
Nov 29, 2014, 12:26 AM
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That's hilarious. Completely void of a rebutall, but
Nov 29, 2014, 12:30 AM
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hilarious nonetheless. Wait, not really.
Facts beat baseless opinion every time buddy.
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So basically, your arguement is
Nov 29, 2014, 12:41 AM
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We won games because Chad Morris allowed it to happen? What about the fact that we are 1-9 vs the coots and fsu? No excuse for that with the players we have had, imo
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The argument is straightforward.
Nov 29, 2014, 1:05 AM
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Clemson has had good talent many, many times in 120 years. But rarely have there ever been stretches like this:
Total Offense:
2011: 26th
2012: 9th
2013: 9th
Scoring Offense:
2011: 23rd
2012: 6th
2013: 8th
Wins:
2011: 10 (tied for 25th
2012: 11 (tied for 9th)
2013: 11 (tied for 9th)
2014: ?? Possible BCS bowl in spite of a losing our best QB (freshman), our best RB (freshman), and a freshman and sophomore being our top two receivers.
Plenty of the 120 1-A teams looking up at us have good talent. It takes good coaching to help players perform to the best of their capability. You can't just trot out some good players and win games, especially to the tune of being one the top 10 winningest programs in the country, which just so happens to coincide with bringing in the coach who led us to those offensive stats and was the primary reason for the last stat.
And you do realize we may just make the BCS this year. Right?
Again, please answer. How long have you have you been a Clemson man and how many times have you seen 4-year stretches like this?
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Re: So let me get this straight.. all you have to do is trot out
Nov 29, 2014, 12:31 AM
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> a few good players and you should be expected to
> finish 8th in the country in wins over a 3 year span
> even without good coaches? Please stop.
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> FSU was 3rd and USuCk was 4th over the same span.
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> FSU has 4x the talent we do. We beat them in 2011,
> the defense gave up a good lead in 2012, and in 2013
> FSU didn't lose to anyone. Blew everyone out. And
> Morris wasn't the reason we lost to them in 2014.
> Flukey game for sure.
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> USuCk has had just as many NFL players as us. They've
> had some of the best defensive teams in the United
> States. In the last 3 years we turned it over 15
> times to their 3. 6 turnovers last year. If you want
> to put 2011 on Morris alone, then so be it. In 2012
> we had a secondary without 3 starters and that was
> the primary reason USuCk was able to beat us, and
> last year's 6 turnovers were not the OC's fault. We
> win by a sizable margin without 2 or more of them. We
> haven't played them yet this year.
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> Your logic is flawed. We're one of the best teams in
> the country since Morris got here, and he's the
> primary reason.
You are an idiot who posts the same thing over and over to see yourself talk. Whose responsibility was it with 4 years to do so to have Cole Ready to play? We have an offense that features a running qb. Safe to say the backup should be ready to go. Ours was NEVER developed by Morris into a serviceable player. Our team is awesome when we have superstars on offense. Morris has had Allen, Brandon Ford, Nuk, Brown, Sammy, Bryant, Peak, Williams, Ellington, McDowell, Tajh, Catanzaro, etc etc etc. All of those gone but Williams and suddenly our offense is pure trash. That is 100% on Morris. This isn't a fr backup. This is a guy Morris has had to develop since he's been here. Morris can NOT do a #### thing without overwhelming talent.
I have no words for you if you say the man responsible for our winning is Morris. You simply have your head in the sand. You do not know the program. You are lost. We'll be fine without Morris and possibly hire an upgrade. He also is not a good recruiter. Other than Watkins Morris hasn't done much to bring in elite talent.
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Got anything in the form of a rebuttal other than childish
Nov 29, 2014, 12:35 AM
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namecalling? If you can't argue the facts then its probably best to not show you git nothing.
FSU, OSG, LSU, UGA, Auburn.. at a minimum all better talent than us. That's just for starters.
Facts man. Try 'em a little bit.
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Re: Got anything in the form of a rebuttal other than childish
Nov 29, 2014, 10:30 AM
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I agree, childish namecalling is dumb.
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 10:19 PM
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Watkins,Hopkins,Bryant, Boyd, Ellington. Doesn't take a great coach to score with those players
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Wrong.
Nov 28, 2014, 10:34 PM
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It's been shown time and time again that good players can't coach themselves. All of the other top 10 winningest programs in that same span had good players, but you still need to put them in a position to win.
By the way, who was the best coach in our history? Did he have good players?
Who are the top 5 winningest teams in America since Chad Morris got here? Do they have good players?
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 28, 2014, 11:12 PM
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We have had better talent than Oregon over the past 3 years. Where is our national championship? The skill we have in the NFL is sick......yet Oregons HC gets a gig with Philly?
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Sick? LOL.
Nov 28, 2014, 11:24 PM
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Oregon has had just as much or more overall talent as us, and this year excluded they've lost 5 games since 2011. And they didn't win a national title and Chip Kelly been a college coach for longer than Morris. We lost 8 games and have just as many national championships as Oregon in that span. Is that your argument?
Over the same span, Clemson has done better than Oklahoma, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Kansas State, Georgia, Nebraska, Texas A&M, Southern Cal, Michigan, Texas, UCLA, Miami-Florida, Auburn just to name a few.
I mean geez, some of you seem to forget we wandered in the wilderness for decades before becoming one of the top 10 programs over 3 years. I don't get it.
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Re: Sick? LOL.
Nov 28, 2014, 11:35 PM
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Talent.
Morris was benefactor of best talent ever on offense. Our wr corps, when looked back on over time, may well be best ever assembled at college level. What did that get us? He beat Inferior teams for most part and struggled mightily with good teams......and lost most of those due to inability to generate 1st downs and run the ball.
He did well. It was fun. Time to move on. We will be better off if put the right man in position. Morris isn't gonna produce an NFL QB anytime soon; there are better coaches available.
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We did and do have some good players.
Nov 29, 2014, 12:32 AM
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So did a bunch of the 120 other teams in 1-A who are looking up at us over the last 3 years.
So I'll ask you too, how long have you been following Clemson? Considering we may just make the BCS again this year in spite of losing our best QB, and freshmen being our leading rushers and receivers, that speaks volumes. Have you ever seen a better stretch??
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whoever recruited all that NFL talent
Nov 28, 2014, 11:22 PM
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Is the reason for that, and heres a clue, it wasnt the chad.
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Plenty of the 120 1-A teams looking up at us over the last
Nov 29, 2014, 12:37 AM
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4 seasons have plenty of NFL talent too.
So, how long have you been a Clemson man? How many 4-years stretches have you seen us be one of the top 10 winningest programs in the country? Us older fans used to take a lot of pride in being a good team.
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Somebody please tell him how long they've been a Clemson man
Nov 29, 2014, 4:31 AM
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How many 4-year stretches they've witnessed Clemson being ranked in the top 10, most winning programs in the country? Age? Weight? Height? What their sign is? SS# & DOB? And how many feet they can pee... in a straight line... in one go?
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 29, 2014, 6:27 AM
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Swami to answer your question IMO it's the team, all of the folk involved with Clemson Tiger Football
that put up the good #. The Players, Coaching Staff, Support Staff, Iptay, and Fans.
Sure Morris had great talent to work with but also the same talent turned the ball over during the losses. Win the T/O battle win the game.
I think that Morris has done a great job this year with all the injures.
If Morris is gone then I hope only best for him and SMU.
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I love how you decided to leave 2014 off of your CM reach around post
Nov 29, 2014, 6:48 AM
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Total Offense:
2014 - 61st
Scoring Offense:
2014 - 57th
Wins:
2014 - 8(so far)
So in other words in year 4 of his offense(with his players) the team has completely regressed. Even though he and dabo have touted it as being a plug and play offense and that one player(s) won't hurt us, etc.
And don't give me the Cole Stoudt nonsense...Chad has had him all 4 years that he has been here(supposedly coaching him up) and named him starter over DW and the other chad(if I'm not mistaken)....
You've got FCS schools that put up TDs against top 10 opponents and we haven't scored an offensive TD in 2 games this year. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS....
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Uh oh. Shanely won't like this***
Nov 29, 2014, 7:55 AM
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Nope and he probably won't respond either. He doesn't seem
Nov 29, 2014, 8:01 AM
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to like the truth or evidence that shows his way of thinking is wrong.
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Was that supposed to be a response to me?
Nov 29, 2014, 11:18 AM
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If so.....huh??
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 29, 2014, 7:01 AM
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Tajh Boyd, Sammy Watkins, Nuk Hopkins, Andre Ellington. Next stupid question.
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Oculus Spirit [96811]
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Hey CU_Swami, I think coaches most often make a
Nov 29, 2014, 7:48 AM
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conscience decision to play defense first.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Yep, I've heard that they even "elect" to play D first.***
Nov 29, 2014, 7:48 AM
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 29, 2014, 8:27 AM
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Sammy Watkins
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Jeff Scott for bringing in all of the talented recruits that
Nov 29, 2014, 8:33 AM
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made cm look so good for a few years....
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this post really STUMPS me.. i would
Nov 29, 2014, 8:47 AM
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R.A it, but it's the CHRIStmas season. there's really 828 different ways to look at this. it's a SHANE that everybody can't see that.
hope you had a good thanksgiving stanley
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Spence: He set all this in motion in 2008 ...***
Nov 29, 2014, 9:20 AM
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Dabo
Nov 29, 2014, 9:41 AM
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He had the guts to hire chad. Additionally, Dabo was responsible for getting Boyd, Atkins Hopkins et a
To play for Clemson
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Dabo/Scott/Napier
Nov 29, 2014, 9:49 AM
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They recruited the future NFL superstars that Chad succeeded with . Anyone could have succeeded with that talent and I'll always take the guys that talked that type of talent into coming to Clemson over someone that walked into a perfect situation and has been looking elsewhere since before he got here.I like Chad,but let's not pretend that even Napier wouldn't have had the same success if he'd been allowed to coach the player he recruited.
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Re: Which member of our staff was primarily responsible for this
Nov 29, 2014, 10:26 AM
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With all that said, do you think we should play defense first today?
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"elect" to play defense....that's the crucial part.***
Nov 29, 2014, 11:19 AM
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Dabo. He hired CM and will make another
Nov 30, 2014, 2:09 PM
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Great OC hire. CM's timing has me less than sorry about him leaving
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Dabo gets credit
Nov 30, 2014, 2:17 PM
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I agree with TigerTrain, that Dabo gets the credit. He hired Morris (and Venables), got the program pointed in the right direction, recruited athletes that represented us well on and off the field. I am glad Morris is here, but there will be other OCs. I like the way Dabo is running the program.
Also, I am not a Dabo super-fan. I disagree with some of his decisions, but I will give credit where it is due. We are getting these impressive offenses, and now defenses, and recruits, and records, and graduation rates, etc. because of Dabo.
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