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YOUR BALANCE
Comparing LSU & Clemson
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Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:05 AM

I already posted 10 reasons why I think LSU will win and position comparisons for the game. I decided that this morning I will compare the schools and programs of LSU and Clemson.

Stadium - LSU and Clemson both call their stadium Death Valley. LSU's stadium is highly regarded as one of the best home field advantages in all of sports. Clemson has a nice stadium that gets a little national pub. I have never seen one stadium ranking in college football that has the Death Valley in Clemson ahead of the Death Valley in Baton Rouge. Winner - LSU Easily

Campus - Both campuses are very atheistic with their trees and stylistic buildings. Both campuses do a great job of keeping up with the times while also keeping the integrity and architecture of the original campus. Winner - Push

Females - Clemson is not known for having the best looking females. Like any college campus, they have some good looking women, but not near the quantity of LSU. LSU is not Ole Miss, but there are still a ton of gorgeous girls all over campus. Winner - LSU Easily

Academics - Both schools are decent schools as far as academics. Neither school is Harvard and neither school is a junior college. If you look at Forbes most recent list, LSU is ranked at 299 in the country, and Clemson is ranked at 218. This has fluctuated year to year with both schools being ahead in certain years. Due to the most recent list, I will give Clemson the advantage. Winner - Clemson slightly

Conference - I really don't even have to compare this one. SEC >>>>>>>>>ACC. Winner - LSU easily

Program Revenue and Profit - LSU was listed as the #4 most valuable program in all of college football. Clemson didn't crack the top 20. Winner - LSU easily

Non Football Sports - Football is the top dog in college athletics, but what about the non football sports. Clemson isn't known for basketball. They have made the tournament some recently, but don't have much to show for it. The baseball team has some recent cws appearances, but no wins. None of the other sports have done a whole lot, except the golf teams national championship in 2003. LSU has 6 baseball national championships since 1990. The basketball team has 4 final 4 appearances to Clemson's 0. Golf team has 4 national championships, and track and field has 31 national championships. Winner - LSU by a landslide

Fans - LSU has a fanbase all over the country. LSU is the main school in Louisiana and also has strong alumni bases in Houston, Atlanta, Dallas and many other major cities. Clemson has nice fans, but not too the level of LSU. Winner - LSU

Traditions - Clemson has the rock that they touch. LSU has white jerseys at home, Mike the Tiger, H Style goal posts, the 4 corner salute in pregame and many more. Winner - LSU

Football History - Clemson has 1 national championship and 18 conference titles. LSU has 3 naitonal championships and 14 conference titles (11 SEC). Clemson has a 16-18 record in bowl games. LSU has a 23-20-1 record in bowl games. LSU has finished ranked in the top 10 22 times. Clemson has finished ranked in the top 10 6 times. Winner - LSU easily

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uhhhh. Here's one for #1


Dec 26, 2012, 11:08 AM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1145292-power-ranking-all-124-college-football-stadiums

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Yeah bleacherreport is a real credible source


Dec 26, 2012, 11:22 AM

:rollseyes:

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Hey #######


Dec 26, 2012, 11:27 AM

I have never seen one stadium ranking in college football that has the Death Valley in Clemson ahead of the Death Valley in Baton Rouge

Thats what you asked

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I didn't ask anything***


Dec 26, 2012, 11:29 AM



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Stated


Dec 26, 2012, 11:36 AM

sorry Mr. ########

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Re: uhhhh. Here's one for #1


Dec 26, 2012, 2:03 PM [ in reply to uhhhh. Here's one for #1 ]

Bleacher Report; irrelevant

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"Irrelevant"? Why?


Dec 26, 2012, 3:08 PM

You say that, and the supposed LSU clown suggests that Bleacher report isn't "credible", but this isn't a black and white issue. It's clearly a matter of opinion.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:08 AM

At least try to make it unbiased. I can do that too. Clemson & LSU - Clemson Easily

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#2


Dec 26, 2012, 11:08 AM

I have been to both. Clemson has a nicer campus. Its all opinion tho.

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Females


Dec 26, 2012, 11:09 AM

Seriously?

CU easily

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Re: Females


Dec 26, 2012, 2:04 PM

Yikes. Post less.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:10 AM

Interesting, but not sure what your point is. Maybe it's just cause you're bored.

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And you you are in the mighteeeeeee SEC


Dec 26, 2012, 11:11 AM

so I guess you win two of your points.

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Traditions?


Dec 26, 2012, 11:10 AM

more like a push.


But keep tryin.

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Re: crazy corn dog


Dec 26, 2012, 11:15 AM

Guess we will have to kick your a$$ now. Homer.

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Well, shucks! We may as well just stay at


Dec 26, 2012, 11:16 AM

home? No need to even try and go up against all that "LSU easily".

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no one is giving Clemson a chance? I like it.GO CU!***


Dec 26, 2012, 1:13 PM



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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:22 AM

Let me follow up by saying....

Stadium - Will give LSU the slight edge based on the recent advantage and slightly larger size.

Campus- Have not been to LSU so cannot make a unbiased comparison.

Females - You obviously have not been to Clemson is you think it is not known for its women. I will give LSU credit so I would have to say push.

Academics - Not really close Clemson wins.

Conference - Based on the new standards of conference strength this one goes to LSU.

Program Revenue and Profit - LSU

Non Football Sports - LSU athletic programs do surpass Clemson but it is of note we are talking about a 10k student difference in enrollment.

Fans - LSU has more fans based on enrollment but I would put Clemson fans up against anyone for true passion.

Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally known. Clemson has lots of traditions that I could put up against that list, but the ones that truly matter are nationally known and that is what matters. Clemson Easily.

Football History - LSU does have a history of winning but is not as far ahead of Clemson as some might think.

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"Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn


Dec 26, 2012, 11:25 AM

own" Nobody knows about Mike the Tiger? Nobody knows about the white jerseys? Nobody knows about the pregame 4 corner salute? Nobody knows about the best tailgating in the country?

Give me a break.

"Academics - Not really close Clemson wins."

It was pretty close on the few years of the Forbes list I reviewed with LSU ahead in some years. LSU was also ahead in AWRU and a couple others.

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Re: "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn


Dec 26, 2012, 11:41 AM

Congrats you have a mascot, wear white at home sometimes not always, do a 4 corner salute that no one knows about and claim to be better at something that every team in America does.

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Re: "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn


Dec 27, 2012, 3:20 PM

Congrats you rub a rock.

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Mike the Tiger??? seriously?


Dec 26, 2012, 11:47 AM [ in reply to "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn ]

bwahahahahahaha

i've never heard of him.

is he Tony the Tiger's illegitimate step-cousin or something?

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it's a tiger in a cage, but no one ever confused mike taking


Dec 26, 2012, 11:53 AM

a leak with the 'most exciting 25 seconds in all of college football'.

a tiger in a cage is pretty cool though.

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If you haven't heard of Mike


Dec 26, 2012, 12:13 PM [ in reply to Mike the Tiger??? seriously? ]

the Tiger then you aren't a college football fan. Stick to the wnba.

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admittedly. i am a Clemson football fan first and foremost


Dec 26, 2012, 2:57 PM

so i may be considered a "casual" college football fan, but i have NEVER heard of the name of that Tiger.


but to name him "Mike the Tiger" is comical !!!!


i mean come on. just go ahead and name him "Tony" !!!

hahahahahahahaha

i would hope our tiger's name was some exotic burmese name or something.

"Mike the Tiger" ...that is hilarious.

i actually like "Uga" better than Mike.

hahahahahahahaha

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Mike was named after the athletic trainer of the time


Dec 26, 2012, 3:53 PM

Mike Chambers.

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did you mean athletic trainer, or animal trainer


Dec 26, 2012, 4:15 PM

it is cool to have a tiger, but would you like to stay caged up at a ballgame? i'm glad peta members aren't college football fans!

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Mike's habitat cost more than most houses


Dec 26, 2012, 4:16 PM

It is very nice. On Gamedays, he gets in his travel cage, rides around campus and around the stadium before the game. He then goes back to his habitat.

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Re: Mike's habitat cost more than most houses


Dec 26, 2012, 4:20 PM

3 1/2 - 4 hrs.,i was in a drunk tank that long and i sobered up and almost went stir crazy!

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Had to google 4 corner salute...never heard of it.***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:13 PM [ in reply to "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn ]



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You don't follow college football do you?


Dec 26, 2012, 12:17 PM

The Golden Band from Tigerland has the best pregame performance in the country.

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you don't get out much do you? the only center of anything


Dec 26, 2012, 12:21 PM

baton rouge has ever seen is katrina.

what kind of sissy crap is that band thing again?

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Been following CFB for over 35 years. Yourself?


Dec 26, 2012, 12:24 PM [ in reply to You don't follow college football do you? ]

I've never read about it, never seen it on TV, never heard an announcer mention it, never been there so haven't seen it live.

Just cause you think it's cool, doesn't mean anyone else has ever noticed.

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check this out


Dec 26, 2012, 12:26 PM

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8597496

SVP talked about his favorite sporting event ever which was of course at LSU.

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I can post just as many links about Clemson traditions...


Dec 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

I don't get the point, though. I'll never convince you that Clemson traditions are better and I know #### well you won't convince me that lsu is better.

I've been a Clemson fan for almost 40 years and I couldn't care less about lsu or it's traditions. All I care about is a W on New Years Eve.

BTW, I think the 4 corner thing is kinda' lame but I can see why y'all like it. USCe thinks their chicken-in-a-box pregame is cool too...

That is all.

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here you go


Dec 26, 2012, 12:27 PM [ in reply to Been following CFB for over 35 years. Yourself? ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZoYQSqu-A

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I'm sorry but no...


Dec 26, 2012, 12:40 PM

I'm sure you are very proud of your band but that was neither spectacular nor special. Many schools have very good bands and many of them do some kind of special formation at some special time. While it may be unique it is not earth shattering. I do not fear LSU any more now than I did before watching that video, sorry.

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Uh...could it be that you're a homer and you think because


Dec 26, 2012, 2:04 PM [ in reply to You don't follow college football do you? ]

they are a big deal to you that they are known by everyone?

I think that's it. Your post is opinion. You're entitled to your homer opinions. That's fine...but don't argue that your opinions = facts.

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they're big fans of dean smith down there i guess.***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:17 PM [ in reply to Had to google 4 corner salute...never heard of it.*** ]



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Re: "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn


Dec 26, 2012, 12:35 PM [ in reply to "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn ]

White jerseys!? LMAO! Seriously!?

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Re: "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn


Dec 26, 2012, 3:33 PM [ in reply to "Traditions - None of those LSU traditions are nationally kn ]

best tailgating? I believe Clemson won some type of recognition from somebody for having the BEST in the country...smh dumb corn dog

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 2:06 PM [ in reply to Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson ]

"recent advantage"

All time wins LSU: Number 11

All time wins Clemson: 25

Makes sense.

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"Both campuses are very atheistic".... Ha!!!


Dec 26, 2012, 11:23 AM

Your lack of any intelligence is very apparent. Therefore I smell a coot....

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Typo


Dec 26, 2012, 11:26 AM

I noticed that right after. Good catch.

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You definitely have to give LSU the nod in the atheistic


Dec 26, 2012, 12:39 PM [ in reply to "Both campuses are very atheistic".... Ha!!! ]

campus category. Evidently they airbrushed crosses off Christian students chests in a photo, while little old Clemson has the largest FCA in North America.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/lsu-crosses-airbrush-photoshop_n_2003097.html

http://www.clemsonwiki.com/wiki/Fellowship_of_Christian_Athletes

So, as far as atheistic campuses go, LSU by a mile, to follow the original poster.

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apparent he meant aesthetic***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:43 PM



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Fiat Justitia et Pereat Mundus


apparent he meant aesthetic***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:42 PM [ in reply to "Both campuses are very atheistic".... Ha!!! ]



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Fiat Justitia et Pereat Mundus


Females


Dec 26, 2012, 11:30 AM

Does LSU have any Miss Universe winners in its history....Shawn Weatherly from CU....What about Hollywood beauties....Nancy O'Dell from CU?

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LSU does have a former student


Dec 26, 2012, 11:37 AM

as a Barker beauty on the Price is Right. Joanne Woodward was also a famous Hollywood actress back in the day.

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Thanks to LA and MS, SC never finishes last in anything !


Dec 26, 2012, 2:32 PM

48 is better than 49 and 50.

Winner....the State of South Carolina !

You guys are the dumbest, poorest and least educated of all !

You win !

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game - set - match


Dec 26, 2012, 11:48 AM [ in reply to Females ]

LSU cant come close to Clemson girls.

trust me.

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Why would I trust some random guy on a message board?***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:17 PM



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Aren't you the random guy on this message board ?


Dec 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

Just wanted to point that out.

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The fact he didn't see that point before posting his drivel


Dec 26, 2012, 3:15 PM

...seems a sure sign this dude is lacking upstairs. And here I thought only chickens fans could be so dumb.

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Re: game - set - match


Dec 26, 2012, 2:09 PM [ in reply to game - set - match ]

I don't know about that, but I think we can all agree that LSU and CU girls>Alabama girls.

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We are honored that you would grace us with your


Dec 26, 2012, 11:31 AM

presence.

Let's just cancel the game.

Bless your heart.

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People, don't take the bait!


Dec 26, 2012, 11:39 AM

No need to reply to this garbage. Just let this inbred swamp-cajun waste his time with these stupid posts. If you ignore him, he'll just go away.

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Clemson fans are scared of LSU fans


Dec 26, 2012, 11:42 AM

just like Clemson players are scared of LSU players.

Not surprising.

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Im shakin


Dec 26, 2012, 11:47 AM

like the last nutria rat on the block.

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Sadly, I think you actually believe this...bless your heart.***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:18 PM [ in reply to Clemson fans are scared of LSU fans ]



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Re: Clemson fans are scared of LSU fans


Dec 26, 2012, 2:38 PM [ in reply to Clemson fans are scared of LSU fans ]

Look me up if you can ever find your way to Myrtle Beach. I got your scared, right here!

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I have a good friend, LSU graduate, a Dentist by trade


Dec 26, 2012, 11:39 AM

I asked him why he didnt stay in Louisana to practice and instead moved here to the Sandhills of North Carolina.

" You go where the teeth are "

And I quote!!

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:40 AM

Here you go bayou troller:

Traditions:

Clemson's run down the hill comes in at #4 out of the top 100.

LSU has two lame rankings in this list:

#35 - Mike the Tiger (So nice to keep him in a small cage during game day. I'm sure he feels real comfy there. At least you do have a decent habitat for him on non-gamedays)

#42 - Night games at LSU. Real special! Night games are great everywhere.

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Re: Here's the link


Dec 26, 2012, 11:40 AM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1334063-the-100-best-traditions-in-college-football/page/98

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You guys love Bleacher Report***


Dec 26, 2012, 11:41 AM



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Maybe because you are hard of reading, stud.***


Dec 26, 2012, 11:44 AM



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Re: You guys love Bleacher Report***


Dec 26, 2012, 11:46 AM [ in reply to You guys love Bleacher Report*** ]

Check out the link to NBC sports below BayouBiatch. :)

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 12:07 PM [ in reply to Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson ]

dotting the eye and the fake indian's stick are ahead of us. seriously? wow. not sure I see that.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:45 AM

More on traditions:

NBC Sports posted the top 30.

Rubbing Howard's Rock from DEATH VALLEY came in at #3.

LSU didn't make the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32239415/ns/sports-college_football/displaymode/1247/?beginSlide=1

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:48 AM

And another by yahoo sports:

#6 Howard's Rock

LSU didn't make the top 25.

I've looked up enough in this category. Until you can come up with something better. WE WIN THIS IN A LANDSLIDE!!!!!

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 11:59 AM

On stadiums. Reference that we're ranked as #1 by the above poster. Here are some other polls that give LSU the advantage, but we're in or around the top 15 in any out there. I think your definition of easily needs to be reconsidered.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/6437023

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/college-footballs-top-25-toughest-places-play-204600964--ncaaf.html

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 12:00 PM

That CBS article also says 10 for tradition for Clemson and 9 for LSU

Good work Smed

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Clemson - Academically superior - excellent admit!


Dec 26, 2012, 12:26 PM

I love sports, but I have been even happier to see Clemson grow academically so much since I graduated in '66! Now with a Clemson win in Football, my satisfaction of comparison will be complete!

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 12:32 PM

Campus:
Clemson is located right next to a lake that can be seen from the stadium. It is also located a short distance from the The Appalachian Mountains in SC, GA, and NC. This one isn't even close. I've never heard anything about the wonderful geographic beauty of Louisiana.

Females:
That's ridiculous. I know Clemson has some unbelievable southern beauties and I'm sure LSU does too. Again, you need to rethink your definition of easily.

Academics:
We win consistently here.

Conference:
The edge obviously goes to the SEC, but the only reason I would want to be in that conference is because of the ridiculous advantage in money its members get over the ACC. Money has ruined college athletics. As far as overall national titles LSU tops all teams in the ACC and SEC with 45. UGA has 26. UNC and MD are on the list too with 39 and 25 respectively. I couldn't find data on the rest, but I'm sure the SEC has more overall, but not by a landslide outside of football.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_schools_with_the_most_national_championships

Profit/Revenue:
Clemson would easily be in the top 20 if we were in the $EC.

National Championships:
Throw in two national championships in soccer for Clemson.

Fans:
LSU fans are known as some of the meanest in the country (corn dogs). I believe many polls have us listed as one of the top tailgate spots in college football.

Football History:
Pound for pound, considering our history as a smaller school, I'd say it's a draw.

Bottom line, do more research before spatting out a bunch of BS and embarrassing yourself and your fan base dude.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 12:51 PM

I am not talking about the aesthetics of the states, just the campuses. I have been to both. They are both very nice.

The academics is closer than you think.

You aren't in the sec.

Who cares if you are a small school? I am comparing the history of the 2 programs. Who cares if Texas is big and Tulane is smaller? They are competing for the same thing.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 2:33 PM

You can see the lake and the mountains from the campus! Have you really been there?

I think you need to do a little more research on the academics thing. Has LSU ever won public university of the year. We did. Some time in the last decade we tied Cornell for that honor.

Yes we aren't in the SEC. SEC schools get an average of around 20 million more a year from their conference than ACC schools. If we were just talking athletic fundraising Clemson would be close to LSU.

It does matter that we are historically a smaller school. Many of the games we played during our first 60 years of football had to be played away. Obviously it is much harder to win on the road thus our overall record would be much better were this the case. If you look at our record from 1970 forward it would be close to yours.

Oh. And just to throw in one more historic feather in our cap, The John Heisman coached here. Ever heard of him?

If you think Clemson fans are scared of LSU fans why don't you pick one your size and start some $hit. :)

You've really fired me up for the game bayoubiatch. Thanks, I'm going to yell much louder because of you.

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What!? An LSU fan picking LSU in essentially all categories?


Dec 26, 2012, 12:32 PM

What a surprise, I thought for sure you would have favored Clemson. Here's a more accurate list:

Stadium...The hill, Howards rock, most exciting 25 seconds in college football? Winner - Clemson easily

Campus...Clemson's landscaping, rolling hills, Hartwell lake, and the Blueridge as a backdrop? Winner - Clemson easily

Females...There are plenty of hot girls at Clemson, but I will never discredit a hot girl when I see one, regardless of alma mater...you must provide pics to dispute this lol. Winner - PUSH

Academics...LOL, Winner - Clemson easily

Conference...Don't give two ##### how my conference members play. There are no co-champions in the ACC, there must be in the SEC as much as I here teams brag on each other. Winner - MAC

Traditions...Clemson's traditions make LSU's look like a bad 80's pop song. Winner - Clemson easily

Fans...Clemson's campus was recently voted one of the best to tailgate, mainly b/c of the friendly nature of our fans...LSU's fans are @ssholes. Winner - Clemson easily


There, I corrected some of your list. Get it right next time...

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 12:39 PM

Where did bayou go???

I guess facts and real research frustrated him a bit.

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Still here. Just not spending every second on here like you


Dec 26, 2012, 12:54 PM

Your bleacher report stuff hasn't changed my opinion.

Congrats on your rock tradition. Touching a rock is one incredible tradition. I have never touched a rock before.

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I'm sorry you can't get it up, must be a shame***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:56 PM



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Wait just a minute....


Dec 26, 2012, 1:59 PM [ in reply to Still here. Just not spending every second on here like you ]

You seriously tried to justify not being on here every second. Ummm last time I checked you, and LSU fan (presumably), have 103 posts on a Clemson forum in just 21 days.

I'm a Clemson fan, guess how many posts I have on an LSU forum.....

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Re: Still here. Just not spending every second on here like you


Dec 26, 2012, 2:35 PM [ in reply to Still here. Just not spending every second on here like you ]

Yeah, because you sit behind your computer all day.

I posted lists from CBS, NBC, as well as Yahoo. Booya Bayou!

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bayou loser cajun = "I could never get a Clemson girl to


Dec 26, 2012, 12:40 PM

give me the time of day, so if I just say that LSU girls are the hottest it makes me feel better about myself".

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 12:45 PM

Memorial Stadium, a monument to those who died serving our country, was nicknamed "Death Valley" by an opposing coach in 1948 whereas Tiger Stadium was called "Deaf Valley" by a sportswriter who was making a word-play off of Clemson's nickname in the 1980's. Both stadium have the same winning percentage, but, since you've been mispronouncing your own nickname for 30 years I believe the point goes to Clemson, easily.

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Educate yourself bayoucajunmoron***


Dec 26, 2012, 12:50 PM



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I am educated.


Dec 26, 2012, 12:53 PM

I am more educated than most on this board. Nice comeback. You really got me there.

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Bu!!Sh!T.....


Dec 26, 2012, 1:43 PM

...you can't and won't offer a single piece of evidence to confirm that. If you can, fire away, otherwise I have no reason to assume you're anything more than just another piece of human debris banging away on a keyboard somewhere in white trash Louisiana...

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Based on the dumb things he's been saying, I'm beginning to


Dec 26, 2012, 3:13 PM

think this clown is actually hanging out in a trailer in Irmo as opposed to being a true LSU fan.

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Quitting school at 16 is somewhat educated, sure, but


Dec 26, 2012, 3:12 PM [ in reply to I am educated. ]

I've seen 10 year olds with more outward signs of intelligence than what you've been exposing.

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but you know NOTHING about what you are trying to comment on***


Dec 27, 2012, 2:59 PM [ in reply to I am educated. ]



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R U that insecure that you have to post this kind of thing?***


Dec 26, 2012, 1:13 PM



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It's a slow day


Dec 26, 2012, 2:23 PM

I have posted a bunch about the game, and it appears no Clemson fan wants to discuss it. I thought this would be an interesting topic.

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"Awww...nobubby wants to blay wit me, sniff sniff"


Dec 26, 2012, 3:52 PM

Says the bayouTabby.

Why not go back to tigerfecies.com or whatever it's called. I'm sure you'll fit in there...

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You know what its called.


Dec 26, 2012, 3:55 PM

You just tried to be clever and failed.

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Really!? I figured it was pretty clever myself.


Dec 26, 2012, 4:09 PM

The failure lies in the fact that an obnoxious LSU fan is trying to gain acceptance or seeking approval of his biased views on a Clemson website...THIS = EPITOME of FAIL.

Now please, go circle jerk with all the other SEC brethren.

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LSU gets #1


Dec 26, 2012, 1:47 PM

for stupid, drunk, a44hole fans and you are the epitome. If you think LSU's academics are anywhere close to Clemson's you need to get a refund on your degree.

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Every unbiased website I have found


Dec 26, 2012, 2:23 PM

show LSU and Clemson academics being ranked very close.

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Not sure how you "bias" academics, but can you show some


Dec 26, 2012, 3:09 PM

sites that show LSU with better academics than Clemson? And please stop trying to say an 80 point difference in rankings is "close".

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Here are some links


Dec 26, 2012, 3:59 PM

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/94/opinions_college08_Americas-Best-Colleges_Rank.html

http://www.arwu.org/Country2010Main.jsp?param=United%20States

http://www.ordoludus.com/2.html

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So Clemson is ahead in one of those, another has some


Dec 26, 2012, 4:38 PM

data errors, and the other is from some obscure site and that nobody has ever heard of? And weren't you the one who spoke about the "credibility" of a site? You seem a little confused.

You should try a more credible, easily recognized standard:


http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/spp%2B50/page+2

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/spp%2B50/page+3

It's not too close. Heck, even scarolina has better academics than you clowns.

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After the "Females" category, it's clear you have no idea


Dec 26, 2012, 2:00 PM

what you're talking about.

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I know, Clemson doesn't belong on the same field.


Dec 26, 2012, 2:05 PM

Signed

Barry Switzer

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LSU 12 - Auburn 10. RU Kidding me? LSU SUKS.


Dec 26, 2012, 2:37 PM

nm

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Yeah you guys crushed Auburn....


Dec 26, 2012, 2:46 PM

oh wait you were down 19 to 16 in the 4th quarter on a neutral site.

Also you lost to South Carolina 27-17. We eat them 23-21.

Transitive property doesn't work in football, but I wouldn't bash LSU for the Auburn win.

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You EAT THEM ????


Dec 26, 2012, 2:57 PM

I know you cant talk without teeth but obviously you cant spell without them either.

You better have your oblongdoola checked, Momma said.

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Ever heard of a typo***


Dec 26, 2012, 4:16 PM



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Re: Ever heard of a typo***


Dec 27, 2012, 2:30 PM

Ever hear of proof reading

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It's a message board


Dec 27, 2012, 2:36 PM

I proofread work emails, letters, etc...not message board posts.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 2:39 PM

LSU HAS A JERK for a fan! That is one up for Clemson!

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 2:53 PM

wow, why are we even showing up with our sorry ### team and all our hag wimmens from our little podunk university from our sorry little conference. luckily the dome does not have h style goalposts. and [lease tell me yall are not wearing those white jerseys.

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Nope..They will wear overalls and straw hats..


Dec 26, 2012, 3:01 PM

No numbers. Confuses Les!

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Loser LSU easily***


Dec 26, 2012, 4:19 PM



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LSU fans like to have sex with relatives. Clemson fans like


Dec 26, 2012, 4:24 PM

to get drunk and beat up relatives--winner Clemson

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Scarolina men love #####. Clemson men don't.


Dec 26, 2012, 4:40 PM

Game, set, match. ####.

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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson


Dec 26, 2012, 5:18 PM

every fan is going to claim they have the better fans, stadium, etc...

IMO, LSU has the better football tradition (sucess wise)

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Well, let's see here....


Dec 26, 2012, 5:32 PM

So, LSU has it all over L'il old Clemson, eh?

Well, let's just take a look....
Where would you rather watch a game: Here...


Or here?

Ever wonder why LSU doesn't want you to see its stadium in daylight?



1. Stadium: Who has taken a look at how the two stand side-by-side? I've certainly heard broadcasters gush over your swamp-bound concrete septic tank saying "There's nothing like Saturday night in Baton Rouge!" Well, there's nothing like Saturday night in the drunk tank in Shreveport, either. Don't ask me how I know. Just trust me. There's a reason LSU tries to only schedule night games ... and it isn't just the evening ambiance.
Granted, y'all have about 10,000 more seats in the bowl, but just own up and admit your folks didn't have the originality to name your place Death Valley until a good 20 years after Clemson did and we'll all be fine.

Natural beauty and a lack of mosquitoes makes the original Death Valley a far better place to spend a Saturday.


2. Campus: Being this close to the Almighty, it would be tough for Clemson to be the least bit atheistic....but I get your drift. Never been to LSU's campus, but it appears to be traditional, large ... and flat. Like it was built on a 12-square mile pancake flat. Clemson's campus is one of the most beautiful in the country. Student Review gave it an A+, to an overall grade of B+. Who am I to argue?



3. Women: I dunno...there seems to be something about LSU girls that appeals to y'all, but I just don't see it.



Just teasing, of course. Once you get past the aroma of corn dogs and cheap bourbon, there are just as many good-looking gals at LSU as you can find at Clemson. Note, that's just as many. Not more. I'll give you a push on this, but you'd be a fool to try and claim the high ground.

4. Academics: You were wise beyond your school of choice not to make this a point of contention.

5. Conference: And I am equally wise not to contend this.


Don't YOU want to go to LSU when you grow up?

6. Revenue: Obviously this is an offshoot of Point 5. I will note that the average attendance for a day game at Clemson is likely at least equal to that of an LSU game. And we don't even get that residual profits from "Duck Dynasty."



I bet those Clemson wimps can't do THIS!


6. Non football: I give...we'll NEVER have a gator-snagging team as good as LSU's. We probably won't quite match up in Noodling, either. But if you want to play the SEC card in football, we'll play it in basketball ... and baseball ... and lacrosse. Well, OK, we don't have a lacrosse team, but our women's rowing team would kick Billy the Exterminator's rear end! Depending how far back you wish to go, our soccer program will whip your's (since you don't have a soccer team). Really? You want to talk Olympic sports and you DON'T even play soccer? Debate's over. Next point...

7. Fans: You surrendered this point in your last sentence "Clemson has nice fans but..."

Here's a fair question: If I take fans from schools who have played both Tigers and ask them, which fan base will they say is better? Aside from UCS fans, who share that recessive gene with y'all. Let's ask Texas A&M folks. Hmmm, it says on Texags.com that y'all are the "Texas Tech of the SEC." High praise indeed.

Stadium Journey.com gives Clemson's fans a 5-of-5. LSU gets a 5 as well, but for different reasons. They give y'all points for intimidation, which I assume means things like your SEC brethren do ... peeing from the stadium on visitors, keying cars, drunkenly assaulting children and old ladies. If that's what you assume makes you superior fans, then we have no common point of reference to discuss. In fact, I see GQ magazine named your fan base one of the worst in the nation, based on behavior.

Thanks for playing.

9: Traditions: At Clemson, they welcome fans on the field after games to sing the alma mater. At LSU, they have security guards ring the field so drunk fans won't cause mayhem. Right there tells you all that is important in a school's athletic tradition. We revere athletics as part of the Clemson experience. Y'all denigrate is as part of an alcoholic bacchanal. We share tailgates with opposing fans,, y'all share drinks over the heads of visitors.

Truly memorable traditions indeed. Even 8-Ball the Tiger has more appeal than Mike.

10. History: Technically, we have 20 titles (21 if you'd like to give us that 2009 title that GTech got by cheating) but it's all just numbers. I'll give you the point, but only because you beat us in the 1959 Sugar Bowl. Had Mickey Mangham not slapped the Clemson defender in the face with a corn dog in the third quarter and run for a TD, we would be tied in total number of national titles.

All in all, I see it as a clean win for Clemson. But then I would.

I just wouldn't go on an opponent's message board and try to prove it. But again, that's the difference between LSU and the Clemson Family.

And I d@mned proud to be on this side of the ffence.

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Re: Well, let's see here....


Dec 26, 2012, 5:42 PM

Now I want to see the come back to this. Go Rev!

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Now the girl with the Corn dog does look talented :)***


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I have never seen a bigger attempt to be funny


Dec 26, 2012, 6:02 PM [ in reply to Well, let's see here.... ]

fall so flat. That was uninteresting, untrue and unparalleled as far as failure goes.

You used just about every LA stereotype in the book and were far from clever in doing so.

Pretty pathetic and lame attempt at humor.

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Son, I don't post to "be funny" ....


Dec 26, 2012, 8:36 PM



Your post was both insulting and condescending, attempting to rile the Sons of Clemson with SEC sputum.

You come and spit on the floor of our home, then expect us admire your marksmanship? Fie on you and those who think that they have somehow earned a right to belittle Clemson and the proud young men who strive to represent our school and way of life! I have no need to attempt to use humor to point out the thinly veiled insults you hurl, because they are so plaintively and patented transparent.

Your school has absolutely nothing on Clemson, except for population and self-importance. On those, we will never match you.

And we shall be forever thankful for the difference.

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Re: Son, I don't post to "be funny" ....


Dec 26, 2012, 8:38 PM

Now again top that you Cajun bufoon.

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I've been too long on the mainland...


Dec 26, 2012, 8:50 PM

...time to wade back into the wars.

It took a smug, self-important sycophant of SEC proportions to remind me how blessed we are ...and how we must never allowed our home to slide into the fetid slime that surrounds us.

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Top what?


Dec 27, 2012, 3:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Son, I don't post to "be funny" .... ]

Rev dodd posts this long attempt at being funny and fails. I call him out on it, and then he claims he wasn't trying to be funny. Nothing for me to "top."

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I posted an accurate comparison of 2 schools


Dec 27, 2012, 2:39 PM [ in reply to Son, I don't post to "be funny" .... ]

and programs. If you don't like it, you are free to feel differently. Truth hurts sometimes.

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Some Categories You Forgot


Dec 26, 2012, 6:08 PM

1) Arrogant Dooochey Fans- LSU Easily....Read This Post
2) Crappiest State - LSU Easily....Despite the Good Lord's attempt to wipe it off the face of the earth with Katrina we still have to deal with Louisiana scum.
3) Pregnant 15 Year Olds - LSU Easily

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Haven't heard these comments before


Dec 26, 2012, 6:13 PM

Come up with something original.

I guess #1 is original, but the Clemson fans on here have been pretty good at being arrogant dooooochebags.

Nice Katrina joke. Stay classy Clemson fan. Nice to make fun of something where people lost their homes and some their lives too. I bet you tell crazy lunatic mass murderer jokes to Virginia Tech fans.

Also, LSU is not a state. It is a University in Baton Rouge, which is in Louisiana.

I can guarantee there are zero pregnant 15 year olds that attend LSU.

Another lame attempt at trying to be funny.

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Listen, I don't care for lsu and it's because of their fans.


Dec 26, 2012, 7:14 PM

What I have seen of lsu fans is...well, it's been really bad. You may not be like the ones I have encountered but it doesn't really matter. lsu has a bad reputation for a reason.

Most of what you are seeing on this site is Clemson fans reacting to the way we've been treated by your fanbase, not you personally. You are reaping what others have sown.

If you want to talk football, fine. Judging from the posts of yours that I have read, you don't. I wouldn't be surprised if you are not a #### fan playin as an lsu fan.

With that said, most of us don't have any real problems with LA or lsu. I for one spent 3 weeks of unpaid vacation helping (for free) to rebuild after Katrina. We were treated pretty badly while there, surprisingly. Seems that even when you try to do something nice for people, they will still #### on you. I'm not saying that as a slight to lsu, since it's not in NO, it's just a fact.

Have a good day. I won't respond to any more of your posts unless they are about the game. I hope my Tigers beat the #### out of your tigers.

On a related note: You can believe me when I say that if any of your fans gets in my face in Atlanta it will get really ugly, really fast. I don't expect it to be bad for me.

Peace.

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*L* Wow, your data is quite skewed here. The only


Dec 26, 2012, 6:55 PM

real difference here is school size, which LSU is the state school system in Louisiana, where as Clemson was a fairly small to medium sized military college that didn't become a University until the 1960's. I'd give Clemson the definite nod in terms of academics, alumni, and tradition. You only listed one for Clemson for instance *l* when there are many, and "Death Valley" is a Memorial Stadium--which again goes back to that military tradition, and is very much where much of the university's heritage and passion partially comes from.

As far as football, you hadn't won a national championship until recently, since 1958 (when you played a lesser ranked 8-2 Clemson team with a great defense, and only scored one touchdown) to seal the championship.
Who knows how that game would have turned out if you had played a Top 5 team from a larger school that year? Plus Clemson had 4 other undefeated teams that were unrecognized as champions mainly because of school size and politics during those eras.

Point being, in terms of recent success, I would certainly give LSU the nod. But words like tradition and history are not just about the present.

In terms of women, that (like most of this stuff) is purely subjective. But I personally, like many men, prefer "quality" over "quantity."

B-)

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Clemson is far superior than LSU in academics...


Dec 26, 2012, 9:44 PM

The academics between the two school is not even close. Here are some rankings from USNews.com

--Clemson
#68 National Rank
#25 Public School Rank
#63 High School Counselors
#7 Up and Coming Schools


--LSU
#134 National Rank
#67 Public School Rank
#121 High School Counselors

I don't see how you can say LSU is remotely close to Clemson in regards of education.

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I've never been to Paris, but here's my take on why it sucks***


Dec 26, 2012, 10:31 PM



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Re: Comparing LSU & Clemson***


Dec 26, 2012, 11:29 PM



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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.***


Dec 27, 2012, 2:57 PM



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I mind as well throw my two cents in here as well


Dec 27, 2012, 3:40 PM

You're LSU and we're Clemson. We like our school's traditions and you like yours. Enjoy the game on new years eve.


trolls gonna troll.

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Cajun Chickens !!!


Dec 27, 2012, 3:45 PM

cluck, cluck, cluck, peck, peck, peck ... excrete poop

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