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I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 5, 2024, 1:34 PM
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than we do in football. We spend $404,314.00/player in football and $537,500.00/player in basketball. Does anyone know if this is standard at other schools?
$50,539,277.00 football budget divided by 125 players = $404,314.00/player.
$8,600,000.00 basketball budget divided by 16 players = $537,500.00/player.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 5, 2024, 1:37 PM
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Thanks deputy moderator!! Facts don’t help Brownell’s success.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109432]
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Clearly we are not getting our moneys worth in bb.***
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Feb 5, 2024, 1:45 PM
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Troof!***
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Oculus Spirit [43626]
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wow $500K per player is alot, especially when we are only going to have 6
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:23 PM
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players maximum on the court at the same time
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99326]
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^^^ That ^^^
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:33 PM
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is funny . . . I don’t care who you are!!!
+1 👍🏻 lovingit®
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Oculus Spirit [43626]
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Thank you!
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:36 PM
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There are like 6 "coaches" on the bench, WTH?***
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:27 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109432]
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Maybe one of them will get promoted to interim coach.***
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:39 PM
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I imagine if you did the same analysis on other sports, we should spend more on softball and both soccer programs as they have the best ROI.
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Mens soccer spends $82,526.00/player
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:46 PM
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and won a national championship doing it.
$2,558,307.00 budget/31 players = $82,526.00/player
Softball spends $104,023.00/player, and made the post season 3 times and won the conference once doing it.
$2,600,552.00/25 players = $104,023.00/player
Men’s basketball spends $530,000.00 +/player and has won no championships.
So soccer and softball spend about 1/3 what basketball does per player… combined. Pretty easy to see who has the better return on investment.
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Orange Blooded [2281]
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Mens soccer has the best ROI by far!
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Feb 5, 2024, 4:57 PM
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With 2 National Championships and an ACC Championship in 3 years plus the Hermann Trophy (Soccer’s equivalent to the Heisman trophy) awarded to Ousmane Sylla, it’s not even close.
Go Tigers!!
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Re: Lol. I bet now you wish
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Re: Lol. I bet now you wish
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Feb 5, 2024, 4:47 PM
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you hadn’t asked.
I asked as I wanted others to see the answer. Going big with a new MBB coach will require additional funds. Neff just might decide the funds would be better spent elsewhere. He could go small on a new coach but that has not worked out well in the past
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 5, 2024, 2:39 PM
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I doubt any other BB coach and program has done so little with so much so often. I cannot see how Brad Brownell is not humiliatingly embarrassed to be seen in public.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 5, 2024, 4:56 PM
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I doubt any other BB coach and program has done so little with so much so often. I cannot see how Brad Brownell is not humiliatingly embarrassed to be seen in public.
If you had perspective then you could easily see the fallacy in your logic
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I would hate to think someone on the BBall staff
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Feb 5, 2024, 3:41 PM
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were committing fraud, it would be one of the last few nails in the coffin.
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I just hope the coaches and players for the other sports don't start...
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Feb 5, 2024, 4:13 PM
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resenting basketball for the preferential treatment they are receiving.
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TigerNet HOFer [125870]
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This reminds me of the time I was the 2nd Unit Director for the movie Iron Man
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Feb 5, 2024, 4:33 PM
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John Favreau cut in front of me at the craft table and took the last of the Shrimp Cocktail, about 4 lbs worth, and I had to eat prime rib instead.
I still resent him to this day.
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That's why I spend 3 months per year at sea...
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When I am at the Carnival Cruise Lines Captain's Dinner, I have the option to order the surf (lobster) or turf (steak) or both. There is no upcharge for having both and they never run out because we go to port every other day. I also buy duty free jewelry on the ship, including the Open Hearts line by Jane Seymore, because I am not a sucker.
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We mostly travel Croation Cruise lines
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Feb 5, 2024, 5:32 PM
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It takes us through the Adriatic Sea into Albania. We were allowed to eat anything we caught off the back of the boat, so most of us remained well-fed between our chores.
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Wait a minute! Does Judge know this?
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Feb 5, 2024, 4:49 PM
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I don’t doubt it But, as with everything, the key is how it is determined? Total budget for each sport/ # of scholarship athletes? Very interesting number, but not necessarily indicative of anything.
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Say that again..6 asst BB coaches for 12 players!
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Feb 5, 2024, 5:03 PM
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Dang, forgot about that unreal high ratio!
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~this!~ How is this amount determined? Total budget divided by ?
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GO TIGERS, KEEP WINNING, AND KEEP THE LUNATIC FRING EATING CROW.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Those numbers are moot because they should reflect players on scholarship.
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Ok
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Feb 6, 2024, 10:14 PM
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Let’s just include scholarship players for each sport…
$50,539,277.00 football budget divided by 85 players = $594,575.00/player
$8,600,000.00 basketball budget divided by 13 players = $661,538.00/player
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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To be fair, I believe the basketball number will always appear somewhat inflated by the very nature of the sport. A significant lump sum of money has to be spent on facilities, coaching salary, etc, and because basketball has such a small number of players compared to most other sports, the ratio of total program money divided by roster count will always be likely to be higher than what you would expect it to be based on the perceived value, success, and popularity of men's basketball as compared to the other Clemson sports. Francis Marion® , I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but if you'd care to indulge me, I'd be interested to see what these same ratios are for all of the Clemson sports.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Absolutely, the portal guys came to,Clemson 💰 because we had support. Don’t believe the narrative we don’t support our programs.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:09 AM
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And the ROI is about half a mil per player in football and 44K per player in basketball.
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Re: I know that Clemson spends more per player in men's basketball...
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:27 AM
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Looks like we are over spending in basketball. Send a few million from basketball to football
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Lighten up Francis
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:29 AM
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The entire budget for both sports is not spent on players. Clemson spends more on its football coaching staff than it does it's basketball program.
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I really dont even know how to respond to your post
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:36 AM
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I pride myself on being able to out stupid anyone, but I’d have to get myself to a point of such stupidity to engage, I’m worried I may not be able to recover.
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Dynasty Maker [3528]
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Dabo makes $12 million per year
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:30 AM
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Need to add $3.6 million to the basketball budget
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Ok, Im going to try
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Feb 7, 2024, 9:38 AM
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It doesn’t matter what the money is spent on, it matter how much goes into the program, per capita. The team could spend $50,000,000.00 on push pops, wouldn’t be smart, but the per capita spent for each player would be the same as it would if they spent it on staff, travel, etc…
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