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Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:12 AM
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Let’s say that Georgia beats Tennessee, but then Bama beats Georgia in the SECCG, and those three teams complete the season each with one loss from among that same group, but also one win among that group.
Let’s also assume for a second that the committee wouldn’t consider alienating 60% of the current Power 5 conferences by allowing 3 SEC teams into the mix (even tough it wouldn’t shock me, especially if a few others get a loss or two between now and December).
Which two SEC teams get in?
Alabama is clearly a lock, with its lone loss a last second one to a top 10 team on the road; they would be SEC champ, and have just defeated a previously undefeated Georgia the week before
Georgia would have beaten Tennessee, but at home, and would have lost the previous week to underdog Alabama
Tennessee would have the impressive win over Bama, a better than Georgia, but a head to head loss (albeit on the road).
UGA, TN, or both make it?
Since this is my hypothetical, I am adding one more caveat. Assume that there is not more than 1 undefeated P5 conference champ.
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Big assumptions are that Bama wins the west... They play
Oct 17, 2022, 10:18 AM
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Miss State this weekend and Ole Miss ON THE ROAD in a few weeks. Throw in LSU and the West could be a messy 2-3 way tie.
I don't think that any of those teams are great, but I don't think that Bama has it in them to get throw their schedule AND win the SEC Championship unless something drastically changes.
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The Pirate let me down big time this past weekend. I no
Oct 17, 2022, 10:29 AM
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longer have any faith that his team Israel. The Fighting Lame Kiffins probably have a better shot.
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:22 AM
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I just feel they'd have to look at common opponents outside Alabama. While I would not put it past the committee to throw 3 SEC teams in there, there would be mass hysteria and a lot of pizzed off people in the country. I'll go ahead and throw in there that the Big10 champ will take the 4th spot since they're already cemented so highly in the rankings as well. Plus the Big10 champ will either have big win over Michigan or Ohio State (assuming it is either of those two that win their conference). Pertaining back to the SEC. I'd have to lean in Tennessee getting left out as of right now due to their close wins over Pitt and Florida (both of which aren't strong wins now).
That would leave on who's getting left out.
Pac12: USC or UCLA are out
ACC: Clemson's out due to not having a top 5 win compared to everyone else that's not PAC 12.
Big12: TCU or Oklahoma St.
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 12:57 PM
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I just feel they'd have to look at common opponents outside Alabama. While I would not put it past the committee to throw 3 SEC teams in there, there would be mass hysteria and a lot of pizzed off people in the country. I'll go ahead and throw in there that the Big10 champ will take the 4th spot since they're already cemented so highly in the rankings as well. Plus the Big10 champ will either have big win over Michigan or Ohio State (assuming it is either of those two that win their conference). Pertaining back to the SEC. I'd have to lean in Tennessee getting left out as of right now due to their close wins over Pitt and Florida (both of which aren't strong wins now).
That would leave on who's getting left out.
Pac12: USC or UCLA are out
ACC: Clemson's out due to not having a top 5 win compared to everyone else that's not PAC 12.
Big12: TCU or Oklahoma St.
Clemson as a conference champ though in your scenario; would have more wins vs. ranked opponents than the Big 10 champ!
Wake, NCSU, Syracuse and probably N. Carolina would all have been ranked.
I think FSU will end the season ranked as well!
Meanwhile in the Big 10, OHIO STATE and Michigan and Penn State only have each other unless Maryland steps up!
They have left the Big 10 champ out before and included ACC champ Clemson!
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I actually think FSU could win out
Oct 17, 2022, 6:45 PM
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they've tackled the meat of their schedule
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Re: I actually think FSU could win out
Oct 17, 2022, 6:46 PM
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they've tackled the meat of their schedule
I think so too!
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:22 AM
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After 2011, where Alabama didn't win the West and lost head-to-head to LSU, but they catapulted over two 1 loss P5 champions, nothing surprises me. I think for sure Alabama and UGA go. As for Tennessee, I think it depends entirely on which P5 conference has one loss.
I don't think Tennessee would get in over a 1 loss Ohio State or Michigan. They would over a 1 loss Big 12 champion. I think they would get in over any 1 loss Pac-12 champion not named USC.
A 1 loss USC and Clemson are complete wildcards. On the one hand, the Atlantic will cannibalize itself and the media will start saying Clemson has no signature wins like Tennessee's (Alabama obviously, but as you know, every single SEC game is like winning against a top 5 team on the road in the eyes of ESPN and CBS). On the other hand, the media really like Dabo and Lincoln Riley, and Clemson has the playoff tradition and USC has significantly more glitz and glamor than the Vols. I think USC and Clemson would probably go, but it wouldn't shock me if they took Tennessee.
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Bama, UGA, Clemson, and Ohio St***
Oct 17, 2022, 10:31 AM
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:42 AM
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That would be one way to ensure the CFP expansion happens the following year. It would also guarantee the most under watched playoff in history. I know I'd skip it.
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Me too!
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:59 AM
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It'd genuinely make me upset. Not angry. Just sad if that happened and I'd likely not even watch it as well.
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If CFP expansion is the eventual goal anyway...
Oct 17, 2022, 11:53 AM
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I wouldn't put it past "the committee" to put three $EC teams in the playoff this year if:
UGA beats UT
Bama beats UGA in the $ECCG
It's a huge $$$ grab for the $EC, and $$$ is what they are all about.
I'd say it's more than reasonably possible; it's likely. Look how easily they got everyone to go along with a non-conference champion being in the CFP because, well... $EC, $EC, $EC!!!
At this point that's exactly what I'm predicting will happen.
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 10:55 AM
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I am going to be a huge Tennessee fan the rest of the way. Love to see them knock off UGA and then win the rematch with Bama in Atlanta. Then the Final Four is likely Tennessee, OSU, Clemson and TCU (assuming TCU doesn't crap the bed).
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 11:19 AM
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In that scenario you take Georgia over Tennessee because they won the head to head. Alabama and Georgia likely do get in.
I really doubt Alabama can beat this Georgia
However and if Georgia wins you still take those two. A lot might depend on style points and there really isn't a way to assess that until all games are played
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 12:01 PM
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UGA and Bama not Tenn…
UGA and Bama have “street cred” that Tenn doesn’t….
Recent national titles….
The committee pretends they ignore that stuff - they don’t…
That’s also why we’re a lock if undefeated…
No way an undefeated Clemson isn’t in CFP…
Notice I said Clemson - not ACC champ…
In football at least - right now - being Clemson means more than being an ACC champ..
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 12:51 PM
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I think everything happens as you have said, but on the last week of the season, Ole Miss and Miss St. play to a 24-24 tie that is called after a 6 and a half hour weather delay. The committee throws in Ole Miss along with Tenn., Ga., and Bama and calls it a day!
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Re: Hypothetical (but reasonably possible)
Oct 17, 2022, 12:58 PM
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The loser of the sec championship game would be left out. They would be the last one to lose. But If TCU, Clemson, and Ohio state or Michigan finish unbeaten I think only one sec team gets in.
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UGA gets left out
Oct 17, 2022, 1:08 PM
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They don't have an impressive schedule plus they struggled against crappy teams Missouri and Kent st.
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Re: UGA gets left out
Oct 17, 2022, 6:19 PM
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They don't have an impressive schedule plus they struggled against crappy teams Missouri and Kent st.
They would get the benefit of the doubt and the sympathetic amongst the voting crowd; "would give them a chance to defend their title"! Depending on when they lost.
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