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WisenTiger® · 2024-11-20T22:04:23.584Z

Colorado loss (KS, OKSt, or B12cg) A&M loss(TX) Miami or SMU loss in ACCCG ND loss to USC Bama rolled by TX in SECCG Indiana smoked by OSU this weekend We roll the cawks by more than ole Mrs did. That puts us in the conversation with Indiana, Ole Miss, and TN, ND for the last one in. Probably still miss out even with all this chaos, but crazy time of year. Go Tigers and hopefully Wake handles Miami this Saturday…

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Re: What kills us is being smacked around by Louisville at home.

Nov 20, 2024, 7:00 PM

Yes. But if Louisville was our only loss and we had not already got beat bad by GA then we would 100% be right in the thick of things. We'd Probably be ranked around 8 or 9 just like Miami. The difference between Miami and Clemson right now? Clemson played a top tier SEC, GA team and lost and Miami played a low/mid tier SEC, FLA team and won. Then Clemson plays another SEC upper mid tier team in the SEC, USC the last game of the year. That is enough. With the new 12 team college playoff there is absolutely no need for Clemson to be scheduling out of conference games against and upper tier SEC team the first game of the year or any game. We'll see them in the playoff. The way it should be. Because if you lose your fighting the rest of the season just to get back in the playoff picture. Then if you slip up and lose a conference game (which is normal) very few teams if any go undefeated in conference play. It is a anomaly to do that, then you are almost surely not getting in with two losses. Unless it is a year like 2022 where a 3 loss (2 conference losses) UNC team plays in the ACC championship. But that was because the conference had two divisions then. Now that the conferences have been expanded your not likely to see a 3 loss team with 2 losses being in the conference making it to the Conference championship game. With the addition of Stanford and California they have practically guaranteed 2 more conference wins for half the teams in the ACC. Especially if they don't have to play the two best teams in the conference (Like SMUs schedule). Clemson needs to do like practically every other team and schedule an out of conference inferior opponent. A guaranteed win.

EX of teams ranked higher than Clemson's Out of conference schedule:
Penn State: Kent St., Bowling Green, West VA.
Indiana: FIU, Charlotte, W. Illinois.
Miami: Ball State, S. Florida, Florida A&M, Florida.
Boise State in a weak G-5 conf. Mountain West: GA Southern, Portland St., Oregon St., Wash St.
SMU: Weaker ACC schedule than Clemson: Nevada, Houston Christian, TCU, BYU.
BYU: Southern Illinois, Wyoming, UCF, SMU.
Colorado: North Dakota State, UCF, Colorado State, Nebraska.
Texas A&M: McNeese, Bowling Green, New Mexico St., Notre Dame.
CLEMSON: Georgia, South Carolina, App State Citadel.
Do you see a trend here? Did any of these other 8 teams ahead of Clemson in the rankings schedule the best team in the country for the last 3 years for an out of conference game? Much less the first game of the year. Or even a top top ten team out of their respective conferences? Only one, Texas A&M lost to Notre Dame. And Look where they are now. Ranked #15 with only one SEC loss. Talking about getting no respect. Is Rodney Dangerfield their coach?

Solution for Clemson. Be concerned about getting to the playoffs. Not improving your strength of schedule. The risk/reward ratio is not worth it. Think! Think! Think!

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Currently have 5 2-loss SEC teams, someone in that group will get left out (currently TX A&M based on recent rankings & bracket projections).

I've maintained Clemson's best chance after the UL debacle is backdooring into ACCCG & winning it, so above all else we need Wake or Syracuse to pull the upset on Miami (easiest path to get there).

Winning out & hoping for at-large bid, gonna need alot of things to break in Clemson's favor. UGA & Tennessee, we'd have to wait til next week for any help (they got cupcakes this week). We'd be having to root for Army (vs ND @ NYC), Auburn (vs A&M), Florida (vs Miss), Kentucky (@ Tex), Minnesota (vs PSU), & Oklahoma (vs Bama) + hope Indiana can win on road @ OSU. Considering that a few of those teams are at home & fighting for bowl eligibility, maybe we get an upset in there somewhere but that's alot of asks to get a pathway open in that manner.

What kills us is being smacked around by Louisville at home.

Re: What kills us is being smacked around by Louisville at home.

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I think every two loss SEC team makes the playoffs.

Agree 100%***

...and only because they have to let them in...***

Not sure a 3 loss sec team makes it above us, unless

You are talking like a football fan.

Need some help for sure

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Because they are ND.

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Dreaming big is one thing

5 out of 6 look likely

Re: 5 out of 6 look likely

This assumes that we don't jump anyone by beating a top 20 ranked SC

Re: This assumes that we don't jump anyone by beating a top 20 ranked SC

I disagree

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