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Assuming Brad does the same thing this year
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Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 12:05 PM

If anybody knows some new candidates to replace Brad let’s hear it. I think it’s justified to think that this is finally Brad’s last chance with Neff being very initiative, and with Monte Lee being fired.

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 12:10 PM

Depends what you want. You have to remember clemson basketball is not a very desirable job and also we likely wouldn’t hire anyone who touches on the side of shady business. Earl Grant from BC. Pat Kelsey at CofC come to mind as good fits

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Dec 11, 2022, 12:20 PM

I would agree about Clemson not really being a desirable job, but look at Auburn, Alabama, and other schools that are similar in having football more supported. Auburn got Bruce Pearl and he’s been very successful there. So we just need someone to recruit at a higher level than Brad at least.

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Auburn and Alabama both spend more than we do on men’s basketball each year.


Dec 11, 2022, 10:31 PM

Are you willing for Clemson to spend several million more a year on basketball to create a more level point of comparison?

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Who spends more - us or Loyola Chicago or us ?


Dec 11, 2022, 10:35 PM

And based on your history - what you just posted is probably a lie.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: Auburn and Alabama both spend more than we do on men’s basketball each year.


Dec 12, 2022, 12:40 PM [ in reply to Auburn and Alabama both spend more than we do on men’s basketball each year. ]

Several more million? Nah...maybe a million more. And yes....we are.

We have spent millions on softball/gymnastics/rowing.....I think its time to cut it out with all the new stuff we are ultimately going to have to cut when a recession comes and focus on the SPORTS that TYPICALLY MAKE MONEY

So yes. Everyone is ready to go get an actual basketball coach

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Re: Auburn and Alabama both spend more than we do on men’s basketball each year.


Dec 12, 2022, 12:57 PM [ in reply to Auburn and Alabama both spend more than we do on men’s basketball each year. ]

Yes, as long as none of that extra money is paid to Brownell. HTH

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 12, 2022, 9:57 AM [ in reply to Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year ]

How is it not a desirable job? Great arena, great fans, great campus. Plays in a prestigious conference, and some history of winning. I’m not sure how South Carolina or Loyola are a better job.

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Bob Richey


Dec 11, 2022, 12:23 PM

Has done a very good job at Furman is a good recruiter

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I don't see the appeal with Richey


Dec 12, 2022, 10:19 AM

other than the fact that he has ties to the upstate.

He's done a good job at Furman, but he's never been to the NCAA Tournament in his 5 years there, and they have never finished higher than 2nd in the Southern Conference.

I don't see anything there that gets me excited about him succeeding at Clemson.

For comparison purposes, Brownell won his conference three times in 8 years prior to Clemson, with three NCAA Tournament appearances.

If you're wanting an upgrade over Brad, it doesn't appear that Richey is it.

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 1:15 PM

Shaka Smart is a name that has popped up in the past. He just went to Marquette in 2021 but he is someone I would reach out to if the opportunity presented itself.

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 2:25 PM

Shaka's time at being at Clemson is gone. He is from Wisconsin so he is probably going to retire at Marquette.

My favorites are Kelsey at CofC, Medved at Colorado State, Boynton at Oklahoma State, McKay at Liberty, Richie at Furman, McCasland at North Texas, and maybe Earl Grant at BC but that is dwindling.

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 3:20 PM

That’s a good list, but we definitely won’t get Mike Boynton — he’s a gamecock and Clemson is not a better job than Oklahoma State.

I’d add Ryan Odom (Utah State), Darian DeVries (Drake), and Dana Ford (Missouri St) to the list.

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Yeah...don't think we want to go the coot route with Boynton


Dec 11, 2022, 3:23 PM

How did that work out with Monte Lee?

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Is Larry Shyatt available?***


Dec 11, 2022, 3:27 PM



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I'm still on the Greg Buckner train.


Dec 11, 2022, 5:04 PM

Alum passionate about Clemson and aware of our untapped potential. Rising up the coaching ranks in the NBA with the Cavs and will be off to a HC position soon enough in college or pros.

He would bring a vision, chops, and a relatable personality to the table, and wouldn't approach this gig as a stepping stone.

I would love to see Brownell turn it around in Year 13 and make history. That's a great bunch of kids out there this season sporting the paw and it would be great to see them do something special. If it's business as usual, though, Buckner would be my hope.

Go Tigers.

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Re: I'm still on the Greg Buckner train.


Dec 11, 2022, 10:07 PM

I wasn’t aware he was coaching, especially at that level. I agree bringing his passion could be a good bet.

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 10:17 PM

ROYBus10 said:

If anybody knows some new candidates to replace Brad let’s hear it. I think it’s justified to think that this is finally Brad’s last chance with Neff being very initiative, and with Monte Lee being fired.





So this is your conclusion when Clemson's overall record is 8-3 and 1-0 in league? It's amazing how everyone who hates brad goes apeshit after the loss last night like it's the end of the world. Drama wannabe should be the way to describe yourself on this message board.

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R***


Dec 11, 2022, 10:22 PM



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ight***


Dec 11, 2022, 10:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year ]

If it were a 15 game season wow what a strong record.

But they'll fade into February, finish at or near .500 and miss the tourney by a nautical mile. NIT yippee.

It's fine, though. Dont get butthurt. They suck as a program, they get not alot of money and noone expects much.

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How exactly is finishing mid-pack in the ACC on average “sucking?”***


Dec 11, 2022, 10:34 PM



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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 12, 2022, 12:43 PM [ in reply to Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year ]

When you've seen the same movie more than once, it is hard to watch it again and expect a different ending...

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 11, 2022, 11:54 PM

I think Brad must get to the NCAA tournament, or he is gone.

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Re: Assuming Brad does the same thing this year


Dec 12, 2022, 12:59 PM

I've always liked and respected Tommy Amaker. I think he has done a pretty good job at Harvard and has that Coach K pedigree.

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