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Game Changer [1814]
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As GM, would you draft Ship?
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Dec 15, 2023, 5:15 PM
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For me, no. I might invite him to camp to see what he can do... but in college, ummm...no. Doesn't have moves, and is an easy take down. The kid as heart, but so did Boulware. Spiller got injured, but even he was basically a bust.
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All-In [10245]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
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Dec 15, 2023, 5:17 PM
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16-7 coot
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Game Changer [1814]
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Cootriffic
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Dec 15, 2023, 5:36 PM
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Marian Francis is looking for you.
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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16-7 72-67 NO BOWL LOL
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Dec 15, 2023, 7:16 PM
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Tell 'em coot
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Game Changer [2049]
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Re: 16-7 72-67 NO BOWL LOL
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Dec 15, 2023, 7:55 PM
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You know the score to our rivals games. Good for you. Would you like a cookie?
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Ring of Honor [22805]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
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Dec 15, 2023, 5:41 PM
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I’d probably tell him his chances improve greatly if he continues to work hard and gets coached up another year in college.
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Legend [6838]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 16, 2023, 11:45 AM
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That is the advice
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Orange Blooded [2283]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 15, 2023, 5:46 PM
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Probably not at this point.
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All-American [593]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
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Dec 15, 2023, 5:49 PM
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I don't think so. He needs another year to work on his game. I think he needs to focus on his skills and work on the drops.
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Game Changer [1725]
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I'm not sure another year would improve his stock.
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Dec 15, 2023, 5:55 PM
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As far as draft projections this year, I don't know enough about the running back class this year to guess about that. It is hard to project running back success in the nfl.
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Clemson Conqueror [11390]
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No
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Dec 15, 2023, 6:01 PM
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UFA
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110%er [3625]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 15, 2023, 6:03 PM
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Yeah in the 6th or 7th round. If you want to just hope you will get him, then you can invite him to camp. He will have his choice if he isnt drafted.
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Head Coach [919]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
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Dec 15, 2023, 6:26 PM
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He'll be fine in the right system. He's probably in that Patriot's mold of Danny Woodhead etc. He's gonna be that guy that either finds that one team or bounces around b/c he does several things pretty well but isn't elite at any one of them. If he ends up in a veteran RB room, those guys will help him channel his aggression.
He'd be a good compliment to an Austin Ekeler with the Chargers. He'd be a fit in Kansas City. CEH is probably out this year and he could fill that role. There's probably room for him in Arizona. He's got options but I don't think he'll be a #1. He will be a decent returner and 3rd down piece that can handle a starting role when needed. That is a pretty good career.
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Orange Immortal [62908]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
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Dec 15, 2023, 6:28 PM
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If Mafah wasn't a choice, yes I would. We have watched Shipley play behind an average or less than average O Line, he could be much better if we had a really good O Line!!!
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110%er [3679]
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His only chance to make an NFL roster is as a kick returner
Dec 15, 2023, 6:46 PM
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I think any realist can see Ship can't play RB full-time in the NFL. However, if he can excel on special teams as a return man, a team might give him a roster spot as a backup RB.
He needs to gain strength because he's too easy to bring down.
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Orange Elite [5571]
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Nope***
Dec 15, 2023, 6:51 PM
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
Dec 15, 2023, 7:15 PM
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16-7 72-67 no bowl LOL
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Game Changer [1814]
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oh hello least favorite coot of them all
Dec 15, 2023, 7:23 PM
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i think you're a few kernels short myself
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Game Changer [1898]
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All-Pro [714]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 15, 2023, 8:28 PM
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In the late rounds. His best role would be as a 3rd down back where his receiving skills could be utilized in a specialty situation. Don't think he'll be a workhorse RB in the Pros.
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Orange Blooded [4083]
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Perhaps as a late-round slot receiver
Dec 16, 2023, 11:08 AM
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I don’t see him as a full time running back in the league
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Legend [6805]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 16, 2023, 11:40 AM
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Game Changer [2083]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 16, 2023, 11:56 AM
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I think this year he would prob be a late addition like an UFA… but I do think he has the potential and skills to play at the next level I just think another solid year in the college to change the perception of the fumbles and becoming a little more balanced in his lower body would do him wonders… I def think these things are fixable and he can become a much more consistent back and play at the next level.
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Hall of Famer [8241]
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Re: As GM, would you draft Ship?
Dec 16, 2023, 12:01 PM
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Fortunately, for football, you’ll never be anything but a keyboard captain
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Paw Warrior [5067]
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You are a clown.
Dec 16, 2023, 12:33 PM
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Spiller rushed for 3500 yards and caught 1500 in passes.
Clearly not a bust.
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Paw Warrior [5067]
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I think ship will do well in pros.
Dec 16, 2023, 12:34 PM
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Decent running back who hits hard and can catch the ball.
Maybe not drafted, but valuable.
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Varsity [104]
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Nope.
Dec 16, 2023, 12:36 PM
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Fumbles.
I know Spiller's 8-year career wasnt HOF-worthy, but certainly wasnt a bust either.
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Hall of Famer [8142]
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maybe in a late round
Dec 16, 2023, 12:46 PM
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CU Medallion [20966]
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Draft Contingency Plan on Ship
Dec 16, 2023, 1:00 PM
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Brains and effort are there. Checklist as follows:
1) Hand size. Met former Raider RB Pete Banaszak about 10-15 years ago. He played at 5'11" 210, but his Super Bowl ring was so big I could put 2-3 fingers in it. Huge hands. Great blocker. Never/rarely fumbled.
2) 40 yard and agility times. Preferably at NFL combine, if not at Clemson pro day.
3) Weight and body distribution. Unconcerned with height. Is his weight in lower/upper body? Can he move an NFL pile?
4) Can he catch NFL passes? His pass catching was inconsistent in 2023.
5) NFL camps. Can Ship get on the list and prove himself at Mobile, AL/other NFL camps?
2023 production dipped from frosh/soph years. Maybe he was hurt. My guess is Ship will return and lose more reps to Mafah in 2024. Pulling for him. And still hope Clemson will identify/rotate in a speedier option at RB in 2024.
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