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As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 5:57 AM
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Should we expect more from our basketball, softball or baseball programs?
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 6:05 AM
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Not much need for improvement in the softball room. IDK
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 12:04 PM
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Not much need for improvement in the softball room. IDK
Even though I like to think I have high expectations for all sports, out of these 3, softball being so new would be the 3rd on my list. They have already achieved more than I would have ever thought in this short period of time.
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 6:37 AM
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Your premise is inaccurate
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 12:01 PM
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@jstone D329 not following. It’s a simple question. Don’t read too much into it.
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 8:21 PM
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I get it but your premise that you are a level headed fan is a reach
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:47 AM
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As an avid supporter of Clemson should I expect more from our fan base? Go Tigers
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:51 AM
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If fans are going to watch and a bunch of money is allotted to them for facilities, coaches, and other things... hellll yes more is expected of them.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: As a level headed fan
Mar 8, 2023, 7:57 AM
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Is it your money they are receiving?
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 6:10 PM
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Forrest you are hung up on the money. A lot of us pay to be a part of this site. Scary the dollars spent on Clemson sports on this board alone.
Keep in mind everyone may be a huge fan but possibly does not have it like you have it and can’t afford that extra expense.
Lord knows just tickets and parking is outrageous. Will end up pricing people like me out unfortunately.
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Re: As a level headed fan
Mar 8, 2023, 7:13 PM
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Sixty bucks. Not really a big drain on your budget. Is it?
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:58 AM
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"Fan" is short for fanatic. There are no level headed fanatics.
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 11:59 AM
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"Fan" is short for fanatic. There are no level headed fanatics.
I used to be off the rails when it comes to being a fan. Older I get I guess I’m chilling out a little. But I do have high expectations for all 3 of those sports.
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 8:04 AM
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You left off men's soccer. Haven't won a national title since 2021.
Surely you don't expect more from softball. Either that was typed in error or you mean this all as a joke. Softball can only be three spots higher in the poll.
Baseball used to be a contender, and will be again. New coach; give him time.
Basketball: even for a "football school", I think we ought to be getting to the NCAA tournament 50% of the time or more. Ohio State and Alabama are "football schools", but that doesn't prevent them from success in hoops. We may never supplant Duke and Carolina at the top, but Virginia has won a title more recently than both schools. There's no reason we couldn't consistently be third or fourth in the league and make the big dance 70% of the time. Figure out what's holding us back and fix it.
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 11:57 AM
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I was just asking in general for those 3 sports regardless of records or history. Do you have different expectations for any of the 3?
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Re: As a level headed fan
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Mar 8, 2023, 5:37 PM
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To answer your question.
Softball: really not much more to expect. We have been getting better and better every season. I'm very content with where the program is at in that regard.
Baseball: Yes but not this season while bringing in a new coach and a bullpen flooded with young and inexperienced arms.
Basketball: Yes. If we as fans are not to going to expect more than low level mediocrity, then hang it up for good.
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Re: As a level headed fan***
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Mar 8, 2023, 6:03 PM
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Thanks for the response. That’s about what I was figuring myself. Wondered what others expectations were.
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Mar 8, 2023, 6:17 PM
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I expect all the teams to perform at their highest level - with recognition that is not the same across the board. So the answer to your question is no, I expect the highest level of performance from all 3 programs and the same from any Clemson team.
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Based on what we invest, football has been our most underperforming sport lately.
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Mar 8, 2023, 7:26 PM
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It’s funded like a top 3-4 program, but we’ve finished around 15th the last two years.
Maybe we should start by expecting more from it. After all, we are a football school.
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Re: Based on what we invest, football has been our most underperforming sport lately.
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Mar 8, 2023, 8:10 PM
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Somebody whizz in your cornflakes this morning? You seem even more bitter about our football program than normal today - even for you.
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Re: Judge the jealous jerk at it again.
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Mar 9, 2023, 6:26 AM
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My guess is he was picked on a lot as a child. Now he can hide behind a keyboard.
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Re: As a level headed fan
Mar 8, 2023, 8:19 PM
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Basketball-never historically been great. I started following them closely starting in the mid 2000s. We seemed to be at our best towards the end of the Purnell era. However, he never did well once he led the team to the NCAA tournament. Brownell’s problem is a lack of consistency as we lose games that we shouldn’t. However, he did lead Clemson to the sweet 16 one time.
Baseball- Historically a solid program. Won the conference countless times and been to Omaha several times. Been following closely since the mid 2000s. We should expect more from this group.
Softball- They are writing history right now. They are excelling and are exciting to watch.
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