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IRONCAT68 · 2025-09-02T02:28:06.854Z

Instead of Clemson? I mean yeah we lost the other night. By 7. To LSU. Not TCU. Not by 30+

I hope you’re being sarcastic. Because distant history has zero to do with now. People do not watch UNC because LT played there. Maybe a dozen old people that became fans during his days. No one watching football cares anything about Roy Williams. Peppers was great. But not great enough to move any kind of needle for current watchers.

The soccer chick? 99% of the people watching learned her name for the first time last night.

Now, unc football team is worth 150 million ish less than Clemson’s. Their basketball team is worth a lot, half of what Clemson’s fb team is worth. I doubt our bball team has a positive worth, and if so, it’s in the tens of millions, not hundreds like unc.

The SEC cares about dollars. Period. If the numbers bear out unc will make them more overall, then it’ll be unc. But not because of Jordan or LT

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Re: So THIS is what the SEC wants?

Sep 2, 2025, 4:42 PM

I don't think the SEC prioritizes North Carolina because of the market. I think they prioritize North Carolina because they want to prevent the Big Ten from entering the Southeastern market.

The question everyone should ask is why does the Big Ten prioritize North Carolina and Virginia? The answer has nothing to do with football or basketball, but everything to do with the census projections for 2030 which show they will likely lose up to 15 House seats from Big 10 states including California, Oregon and Washington.

If this was about football the Big Ten would be all over Clemson like white on rice. But South Carolina is a state of 5 million and Virginia and North Carolina have many more house members and if those two schools were in the Big Ten those house members would line up to support the Grant recommendations coming out of the House Committee that handles Federal grants. Maybe some serve on that committee to boot. But either way they make up the seats they are losing my adding those states, or getting into Florida with Miami. And before anyone jumps the gun this isn't a red vs blue issue. This is how do we find Representatives who will back UNC and UVa grant applications while voting with a block of representatives who want the same for other Big Ten schools.

You should look at the Big Ten's stated goals. Research grants is #2. Sports achievement is #3.

The SEC will seek to block their entry into North Carolina and Virginia because that is the best way to protect its markets in the Southeast. The SEC can use up to 4 slots to get to 20 and has some pro rata additions it can make beyond that. The SEC doesn't want Clemson and FSU in Big 10 hands. If they aren't secure in the ACC and if the Big Ten is intent on a raid I look for the SEC to first take the schools that the Big Ten most wants: Duke, North Carolina and Virginia. That cuts them off from their next and more likely to join them target, Miami which doesn't really culturally fit with the SEC. Then the taking of Clemson, Florida State, and perhaps Georgia Tech to 22 stops their efforts.

With that move perhaps they don't even go for Miami.

But the thinking is more along these lines and has nada to do with football power in Va and NC. You shouldn't think that way. The Big 10 took USC and UCLA to try to approximate the value added with Texas and Oklahoma. They took Oregon and Washington because that's more seats at half price.

All of this is about much more than just football or sports.

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So THIS is what the SEC wants?

State of NC / TV Market or a team that is now 0 - 4 against them.

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