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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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This is sad.
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Jun 26, 2025, 6:26 AM
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I've traveled the world and never had to do this. The sheer amount of people claiming this is normal is shocking. Aside from the worst countries that I'd never visit, no one in the free world does this. And now my country is joining the list of places no one wants to visit. Sad.
https://www.thejournal.ie/us-visa-changes-6740830-Jun2025/
PS. This is worldwide. Not just terrorist countries.
We are sleepwalking into authoritarianism. I blame the schools. We're broke and losing freedom because financial and history education are poorly executed in schools. If executed at all.
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Re: This is sad.
Jun 26, 2025, 7:34 AM
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Do you think it just mind be due to this administration and that its an anomaly? Also, it seems unlikely they will check even a tiny portion of people's social media. Yeah, but the fact that they would even ask is terrible for tourism, if they are really asking.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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It isn't, that's the problem. People keep acting like Trump is the anomaly
Jun 26, 2025, 7:45 AM
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but he's literally just following Project 2025 and all of the other right wing positions. The one exception of course being Tariffs. Trump is the end result of the Reagan strategy.
The country won't be a better place until we reject conservative ideology.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: It isn't, that's the problem. People keep acting like Trump is the anomaly
Jun 26, 2025, 7:48 AM
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2025 is an anomaly.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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How is Project 2025 an anomaly ?
Jun 26, 2025, 7:50 AM
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It was written by The Heritage Foundation. Literally the think tank that has been running the conservative movement since the 1970s. It was literally the think tank that helped the Republicans shift from Nixon ideology to the Reagan ideology.
There is literally nothing else that would be more representative of conservatives and the Republican Party.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: How is Project 2025 an anomaly ?
Jun 26, 2025, 7:54 AM
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I don't take it seriously. The new administration what wipe Trump's wacky crew away and their ideas would go with them.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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Not taking the facts staring you in the face seriously is precisely how you end
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Jun 26, 2025, 8:00 AM
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up in an authoritarian state.
You should be taking The Heritage Foundation seriously when it says something. It's not going away when we get rid of Trump. That's precisely the problem.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: Not taking the facts staring you in the face seriously is precisely how you end
Jun 26, 2025, 8:05 AM
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I have more faith in this country and in our democracy than you do.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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Is it faith? Or ignorance?
Dec 10, 2019, 7:20 PM
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You just admitted to not taking the fundamental ideals of the Republican Party seriously.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: Is it faith? Or ignorance?
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Jun 26, 2025, 8:34 AM
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I don't think the Republican Party has fudamental ideals. That's why there are the terms MAGA and RINO. They don't have blueprints. It changes with the people in charge. That goes for both parties.
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Re: How is Project 2025 an anomaly ?
Jun 27, 2025, 12:33 AM
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Project 2025 was basically the Republican's shadow platform. And they have been following its blueprint, at least to a degree, since Trump came into office.
You should take it more seriously. It's what MAGA believes, and it's guiding how they govern.
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Re: How is Project 2025 an anomaly ?
Jun 27, 2025, 6:58 AM
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To me, both parties are dangerous, but Republicans are less dangerous. I would think that most Democrats are moderate. The moderate Democrats have for some reason let the minority far, far, left control the party. The leftists dictating the narrative in the Democratic Party are every bit as totalitarian as MAGA. If I have to choose between two opposing forms of totalitarianism, I will choose the right wing version. The Dems need to kick out the loonies and return to mainstream values. Look at Biden, he was run as a moderate. He has always been conservative for a Democrat. He won as a moderate. The Dems know the majority of the American people is moderate yet for some reason they let the radicals control the agenda and the party. I have no idea why. They are willing to die on the LGBTQ+ hill for some strange reason.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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So the biggest threat to your way of life is that a transgender woman
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Jun 27, 2025, 8:23 AM
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gets to use her proper pronouns at work?
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Dynasty Maker [3385]
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Re: This is sad.
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Jun 26, 2025, 7:35 AM
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I've also traveled to many countries, and never seen something like this.
So....I agree with you....NOW...How do we end this? There's a first step that has to happen. We've got to get MAGA out of power. And much as I hate to say it, there's only one party that can take them out. It has to be done.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: This is sad.
Jun 26, 2025, 7:43 AM
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Hopefully the Dems are finally serious and can escape pushing identity politics.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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All signs point to them doubling down though, just as cnservatives did
Jun 26, 2025, 8:03 AM
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Everyone loses that way, just as everyone is losing now. So we go from Trump, to socialism. That's not any better, and could be even worse.
Nope. I don't see a dem solution, and in fact see them as being just as dangerous and bad, just a different flavor.
Same problems still persist.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: All signs point to them doubling down though, just as cnservatives did
Jun 26, 2025, 8:07 AM
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I think we have a primary and the Dems of this country vote for a moderate as far the presidential option. As far as these midterms, time will tell.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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Parties tend to mirror each other. Moderate candidates bring out moderate
Jun 26, 2025, 8:11 AM
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opponents. Radical candidates bring out radical opponents.
They're already promoting AOC. She's Trump with a skirt and a different slate of bad stuff.
Our debt still climbs. We still have illegal workers. Heck, they're illegal because Congress isn't working or doing its job. Same with tariffs. Politics don't matter. They are not a solution to an apolitical problem.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: Parties tend to mirror each other. Moderate candidates bring out moderate
Jun 26, 2025, 8:14 AM
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We brought out Biden because he was safe and moderate to beat Trump. We didn't mirror them at all. Then we tried Kamala and got crushed. No telling what happens. The voters will decide. We will see.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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Biden was the most progressive president in history
Jun 26, 2025, 8:35 AM
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You keep spouting this idea that he was just some moderate.
On June 1, 2019, Biden gave a keynote address to hundreds of activists and donors at the Human Rights Campaign's annual Ohio gala. He declared his top legislative priority was passing the Equality Act.
The equality act would essentially codify the protections of transgender individuals they were afforded in Bostock v. Clayton County.
He campaigned on the Green New Deal. He campaigned on free two-year college for all students.
If by moderate you mean white just say it.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: Biden was the most progressive president in history
Jun 26, 2025, 8:39 AM
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Biden was a moderate throughout his career and was a perceived moderate when running. That's why he won.
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Orange Blooded [2139]
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Re: This is the phenomenom I genuinely can't comprehend
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Jun 26, 2025, 8:37 AM
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Just pipe down buddy. You're about to be ignored hy everyone on this board soon. You have proven to be an idiot. Now.slownyour roll or you will find that nobody will respond to you anymore and you will be wasting your time.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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I learned a long time ago, you can't make people accept the truth
Jun 26, 2025, 9:06 AM
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but it's that willful ignorance that has led to the Trump. People aren't going to come to the conclusion they're wrong on their own. They need to be told why they're wrong.
If they need to ignore people to avoid admitting they're wrong, they're never going to add value to society anyway.
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Re: I learned a long time ago, you can't make people accept the truth
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Jun 26, 2025, 9:21 AM
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You're a very ignorant person. Its as bad as I have ever seen on these boards through the years. You take care though. This is my last post to you. You're a waste of time, and that's saying something, because I have plenty of it.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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Throughout the years?
Jun 26, 2025, 9:30 AM
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You registered on June 10, 2025.
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Ultimate Tiger [34264]
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Re: Throughout the years?
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Jun 26, 2025, 12:20 PM
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Proving your ignorance again
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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But you sure can make people believe a lie. And omit the truth.
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Jun 26, 2025, 9:28 AM
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Long ago I decided to think outside the political box, because it was obvious the political box did not hold an answer to the question. Why does nothing ever change?
Took YEARS to figure it out. Our deficit, spending, and illegal aliens, nothing ever fixes that. Why? You can have a pub President, and a GOP Congress, and spending does not drop, and only gets higher. Illegals still flow in. You can have a dem President, and a Dem Congress, and we still spend more and illegals still flow in. WHY, when a party has TOTAl control, can it not fix (or even address) certain problems?
If you look for the common ground, something both parties are KEEN to obfuscate, you will see things a bit more clearly. We legislate, through actions, and inaction, deflationary policies, so Congress can spend more, to buy more votes to keep getting reelected, to gain seniority, and enrich themselves through insider trading and other means. That is our problem, and it's entirely bipartisan. Dems and Pubs are both guilt as #### of insider trading, yet it is wholly ignored. Both parties accept illegals as a necessary evil, as well as trade deficits. Even with Trump in charge, DOGE has failed miserably to cut spending, because if you fire every federal employee, you save 5% on the budget. Congress, runby the GOP and with Trump in office, is set to boost spending even more, and expand our deficit, not contract it. Trump is doing no better in the deportation department than Biden did, only Trump is very open and is intimidating people, so he has stopped people entering. but deportations are like 140K, not the 15 million he promised.
Again, our problems are not political, because despite rhetoric, nothing changes fundamentally. Partly because it can't.
There is only one solution as I see it. It's not political at all. We have a human nature problem impacting our governemnt, and slowly destroying it. Not a political problem.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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Are you really thinking outside the box though?
Jun 26, 2025, 9:36 AM
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We have deficit spending because of the tax cuts proposed and passed by Republicans.
When the Democrats passed the Affordable Care Act, they actually raised taxes to pay for it. You keep arguing this "both sides bad" argument but it's pretty clear if you care about the deficit, one side is much much worse than the other.
You guys are the ones who have made the government the enemy. Democrats would gladly join you if you proposed legislation that both solved problems and made for better government. But the only proposals coming from the right are ones that make life harder for the poor and the working poor.
When are you going to admit that a government actually has to take care of its people. That's literally the central purpose of a government.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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I will tell you something that is a super secret. Hush hush. I'm more
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Jun 26, 2025, 9:50 AM
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radical and dangerous than Hitler for even suggesting or even mentioning this.
Ok, COMMON GROUND. Where is it?
80% of American citizens who vote, support term limits for Congress. Roughly the same, 80% support a balanced budget. GWB didn't even manage to get 80% of the Evangelical Christian vote. It's NOT EASY to get 80% of Americans to agree on anything. But on these two topics, we ALL agree, dems and pubs, truly bipartisan support.
It is entirely "constitutional" for the 50 states to pass legislation demanding Congressional term limits, and also a balanced budget in Washington. You only need 35 to amend the Constitution. This CAN be done as a workaround to Congress, which was the entire purpose of Article V. Otherwise, as it exists now, our Congress is entirely unchecked. The veto pen, without the line item, is meaningless.
The states could also make insider trading illegal as well, and that would also be a huge boost. FIX CONGRESS, and we will survive. Elect an autocrat, and we will not survive.
But most Americans are brainwashed by our parties and politics, and ONLY HEAR the arguments from those seeking power and office. Dems blame pubs. Pubs blame dems. Get all dems, or all pubs running the legislature, the executive, and even the judicial, AND NOTHING CHANGES. Congress will never spend less, because that's a one-way ticket to lose reelection. And multiple reelections get you the cushy committee seats where you get the insider trading info first. Nancy Pelosi, Tommy Tuberville, they both do it. And many dozens more, and their success in insider trading is directly related to their tenure, as that dictates their access to insider information.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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Why are you so obsessed with the idea of spending less?
Jun 26, 2025, 9:54 AM
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Do you really think this country would be better if fewer people can afford groceries, education, or to go to the doctor?
Why are you opposed to the idea of just paying for what we spend?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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I am against spending more than I make.
Jun 26, 2025, 10:05 AM
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Most people agree with this. If someone makes $50K a year, and spends $90K a year, THAT IS BAD.
Almost every single American has had a time when they had to spend less. Lose a job, unplanned medical bill/injury, whatever. When that income declines, you cut spending to make sure you are still spending less than you take in. Most people also save money, stash it away for an emergency.
It's called "living within your means", and it's something our governemnt doesn't do.
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This analogy doesn't work because in this analogy, the spender just chose not
Jun 26, 2025, 10:11 AM
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make the extra $40k a year it needed.
If someone needs to spend $90k a year to live, wouldn't it be wiser for them to just work a job that makes $90k instead of the $50k job and cutting their spending?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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Heck, I need $2 million a year to live.
Jun 26, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Give me a job!!!!
Money doesn't grow on trees. And the idiots who make $50K a year and spend $90k a year, do you know what happens to those people if they suddenly get a $90K a year job? Yep. They spend $150k a year. And if they get a job that pays $150K a year, they then spend $300k a year. If they get a job making $800K a year, they will spend $1.4 million a year.
To date, I'm nearly 50 years into life, I haven't had a "choice" to make $2 million a year. But by all means, since it's a "choice", please enlighten me, and a few hundred million other people.
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Orange Elite [5505]
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You're really missing the point, it's mostly not a choice for you and I
Jun 26, 2025, 10:36 AM
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but for the government it absolutely is a choice.
We run a deficit each year simply because the government refused to raise the appropriate amount of taxes. That's why you can't compare the government spending to a household budget.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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Please, enlighten us with your tax solution for $37,000,000,000,000.00
Jun 26, 2025, 10:49 AM
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Do we all just go to work for the governemnt for a full year and change, and pretending we don't starve to death and give them every penny we earn.....
Heck, just take one year's deficit. Just to balance our budget, again something most Americans do in their households. Those who don't know all about bankruptcy.
What is your tax solution for $7 trillion a year revenue. That's what we need. What do we tax extra? How? Trump's big beautiful tariffs are on course to bring in a good $100-$200 billion a year. Just a hair's breath away from abolishing the $2.5T we get from income tax revenue.
Do you know we used to spend a paltry, manageable $200 billion to service our debt, and now spend over $1 trillion? And that's with a massive 4.3% lending rate. 8% is $2+ trillion. And this isn't even added spending, just added money we have to spend on top of current spending.
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You're not going to solve the 37 trillion past debt overnight
Jun 26, 2025, 11:01 AM
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but you can stabilize the current yearly deficit to stop adding to it.
You literally just spent a post arguing about how miserably DOGE failed at balancing the budget. Maybe it's time to admit you can't do it through less spending.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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Doge failed because only 5% of our money is spent on Federal
Jun 26, 2025, 11:47 AM
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Employee salaries. Entitlements are the biggest expense along with defense and interest payments.
And I'll ask again, what's your tax solution for $7T a year?
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And there is a reason whey they didnt touch entitlements
Jun 26, 2025, 12:25 PM
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People die when you start cutting those. Thats the point you’re missing. A lot of the spending you think can be cut actually can’t be cut.
Secondly, why would we need to raise $7 trillion? The deficit was like $1.8 trillion last year. Just letting the Trump tax cuts expire would get you 1/3 of the way there.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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Trump isnt a conservative. We don't have a political problem.
Jun 26, 2025, 9:06 AM
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My signature is meant to be serious.
Politically, I'm a conservative. I favor low spending, no debt, less regulation, and overall more freedoms. I personally think the KKK and the gay pride people and everyone else should hacve a right to protest. I believe in limited governemnt, more state controls, less federal responsibilities, etc.
ALL THAT SAID........
#### doesn't sell. I also understand that just because something DOES SELL, and makes money, doesn't mean it's "right", "good", or "best". Fully 80% of the problems America has today, is because of Congress, not a party, not a policy, not an ideology, but Congress simply not doing its job. Period.
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"Trump isn't a conservative"
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Then why was he able to take over the Conservative Party so easily?
Fully 80% of the problems America has today, is because of Congress, not a party, not a policy, not an ideology, but Congress simply not doing its job. Period.
Do you really not grasp this has literally been the position of Republicans for the last 40 years? They have no interest in the government doing its job. Look at them now, just deferring everything to executive action.
The entire political ideology has been that the government doesn't work. Do you not realize when your position is that the government doesn't work, you have an added incentive to ensure that the government doesn't actually work?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109478]
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He is a populist. He will say whatever he needs to say to gain power.
Jun 26, 2025, 9:35 AM
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In America, today, appealing to the long-ostracized conservative base is where the numbers are. Hitler didn't appeal to the Weimar regime. Lenin didn't appeal to the czarists. Castro didn't appeal to the supporters of Bautista.
When a country has a problem, and a large segment is mitigated, ostracized, criticized, and relegated to powerlessness, THAT is a country ripe for revolution. And people LIKE Trump will rise to power. Argentina, same deal. They got sick of the regime in place and elected a populist. UK tried it with Brexit, electing a populist.
What almost never happens, is the prior dysfunctional governemnt is reformed to fix the problem. People naturally appeal to a populist, ceding freedom and liberty for their perceived betterment. And when things spiral into totalitarianism, there is a bunch of hand-wringing because longterm, it would have been better to fix the earlier problem rather than create a whole new one.
One thing is guaranteed, a populist will NEVER choose to fix the problem upon which they gained power.
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Re: "Trump isn't a conservative"
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Because he focused on the dumbest, most gullible section of the conservative base and conned them into thinking he was something he isn't.
Trump isn't a conservative, but he isn't a liberal, either. His ideology is just him, which is why he's all over the place on the spectrum.
The closest ideology he has is fascism (yes, I know this is extreme right wing) but he's too dumb to realize it's fascism. Sadly, other fascists around him do.
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Why lie to yourself about this?
Jun 27, 2025, 8:04 AM
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What about Trump's policies aren't conservative?
Even the tariffs are ultimately a conservative, protectionist and isolationist policy.
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Capitalism is good, but bad if unchecked, like anything else.
Jun 26, 2025, 10:02 AM
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American food conglomerates are some of the world's largest food companies, and also the most profitable. BUT, spend a few weeks in Europe and you will find better, HEALTHIER food. Americans have the shortest lifespan in the industrialized world because we eat what sells, and that is costing us our health. Just because something sells better, doesn't MAKE IT BETTER.
Specifically, we consume FAR more sugar than other countries. We subsidize it as well more than other crops. And we put more of it in our foods than other countries. It's an addictive chemical in our bodies. The US is the only country that regularly ADDS SUGAR to freaking bread. We put artificial dyes into our foods to make them more appealing. Our produce is lower in nutritional content than almost all other countries. That's because we breed/engineer crops to by glyphosate resistant, so we can soak our food in RoundUp, kill the weeds, while the food survives and gets slapped on our plates.
Our kids were amazed at the food in Europe. They'd never had food so good. The soft drinks tasted better, less sweet too. The vegetables, fruits, all tasted better. Now profit margins are far lower for agricultural conglomerates in the EU, but the food is better, and they live longer as a result.
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you're addressing the symptom and not the root cause
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Jun 26, 2025, 10:11 AM
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WHY has there been an explosion of M&A activity leading to ridiculous corporate consolidation?
WHO is subsidizing all this #### you're talking about?
And I hear you. I was/am one of the very few pro-MAHA dudes here. One of the main reasons I voted for Trump. Just picked up my locally grown on a regenerative farm cow and pig, matter of fact.
You're alluding to us having unchecked capitalism, and I don't appreciate that. You're too smart for that. We have unchecked state sponsored capitalism where the state's picking winners and losers. We have a corporatocracy enabled by decades of free money.
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Re: you're addressing the symptom and not the root cause
Jun 26, 2025, 10:22 AM
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You're saying the system is rigged.
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back to my broader point
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Look at the tape of verticals where the government is heavily subsidizing and investing in, and look at the performance of those verticals relative to the impact for day-to-day working class citizens.
- Healthcare
- Food
- Education
- Energy
- Fiscal Policy
"Capitalism"
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Our capitalism is less checked today than ever.
Jun 26, 2025, 10:39 AM
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####, remember the housing crisis? Unchecked.
Heck, just today.....they're demanding now that crypto can be used as collateral for federal loans through Freddie and Fannie.
UnChEcKeD........
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now you're just turning me on***
Jun 26, 2025, 1:48 PM
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Using crypto as collateral for 30 year loans is insane.
Jun 26, 2025, 5:38 PM
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One day bitcoin could get hacked and poof, all gone. And then there will be trillions in loans leveraged with fairy dust. And it's not even bitcoin. Way I read it it could be much more volatile coins as well.
Dumbassery.
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Re: Capitalism is good, but bad if unchecked, like anything else.
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Interesting that you give thumbs up to Europe on their food. I agree. When I've been there, I tend to like their meals better overall than what I get in the US. And people control their weight better, and have generally better health in Europe on average, than the US.
And it's intersting to me how many conservatives think Europe is a socialist hellhole. That couldn't be further from the truth. Europe has problems, and I don't want the US to be another Europe. But we could learn alot of things from them, as well as some countries in Asia (Japan, for instance)...just like they could learn from us.
The US shouldn't be competing with our allies. We should be working with them, and we should make immigration from these places relatively easy.
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Re: This is sad.
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He who sacrifices Liberty for perceived safety deserves neither…. Or something like that.
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Re: This is sad.
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I am at a point I see no light at end of tunnel. We don’t have liberals in politics anymore. The liberals have become authoritarian leftists. The right has always been authoritarian, but was checked by classic liberals in government. Now we simply have two opposing brands of authoritarianism running the show.
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I believe that social media presence for most, is a more accurate picture
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of who they are vs some antiquated "background" check system.
Imagine if we put income requirements for work visas; how authoritative would that be?
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Re: I believe that social media presence for most, is a more accurate picture
Jun 26, 2025, 9:22 AM
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True, but what are the rules? What constitutes something that is unacceptable.
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IDK. Maybe this is a way to better "track" that person once they are here?
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I personally think that if your online persona is all about activism; that should be a "no-go" for any extended VISA.
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Re: This is sad.
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the tracker in your pocket is more accurate
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To play devil's advocate here
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for the sake of a good ole message board debate.....
I reckon I should first state my position that I think the State should #### off entirely and not waste my tax dollars doing this ####. IDGAF if no one wants to visit here. IDGAF what the world is doing.
BUT
How is this any different from what the EU countries, the UK in particular, have been doing over the past 18 - 24 months? There's plenty of accounts and stories of people being visited by authorities (even arrested) due to social media posts that are against the party narrative. The UK government itself has posted notices on what they're doing and how.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr548zdmz3jo
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/privacy-notice-social-and-digital-media-analysis
I reject the notion that we're sleepwalking into authoritarianism using this as the sole gauge. We're certainly sleepwalking into authoritarianism, but that started - at a minimum - 24 years ago.
I'd argue we're already here, but y'all been scoffing at that for my entire existence on this board. You're a little late to be screaming about authoritarianism my bro.
You are correct though. Our education system is beyond trash in this country. And we're broke b/c of the same entity running said education system. And we're thinking that same entity is going to fix it? lol. Your post is quite the paradox that envelopes many posts on this board.
Bring the whole ####### thing down and let's see who comes out the other side.
Long chaos.
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Social media companies should be held to the same liability standards
Jun 26, 2025, 10:19 AM
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as the NYT, or CNN.
If I post some complete BS on Twitter, there's literally zero consequence for Twitter in hosting that misinformation, or transmitting it.
But hey, capitalism right? If social media companies were held to liability standards of all other forms of publication, then they'd go broke, and not make as much money 
Since they do not police themselves, the police have no recourse but to prosecute the end user. And that's almost always AFTER the fact, like the Uk examples you gave.
Happened with covid. Misinformation and lies flowed, and an economic ecosystem of misinformation grew, and people made millions off spreading lies.
And financial literacy is something not taught in American schools because....(wink), there's FAR too much money to be made off poor financial decisions.
Anarcho-capitalism does not work. There are no nations that are Anarcho-capitalists. I'd argue the US is perhaps the most Anarcho-capitalist country in the world as it is, and that's the source of most of our problems.
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wait a minute
Jun 26, 2025, 10:29 AM
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You realize what you're positing isn't capitalism, right? You just proved my point.....the State is picking winners and losers here.
US is #2.
Fastest expanding GDP growth. I get this isn't a fair comparison b/c they started from the abyss that was a socialist ########.
https://en.mercopress.com/2025/06/24/argentina-s-gdp-grows-5.8-indec-reports
Milei is the ####### man.
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Re: Social media companies should be held to the same liability standards
Jun 26, 2025, 11:50 AM
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And financial literacy is something not taught in American schools because....(wink), there's FAR too much money to be made off poor financial decisions.
It is taught in schools if they have the staffing to do it. Some schools can't allocate people to that elective. It's not a conspiracy.
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It was not mandated until 2022-3 school year.
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So for my entire life, no one had a course on finance, taxes, insurance, balancing a checkbook, interest, etc. in high school. I graduated college with two undergrad degrees having NEVER been taught about interest, taxes, credit, credit cards, loans, mortgages, stocks, investments, saving, or even so much as how to balance a checkbook. No one at my high school, and no one at Spring Valley, Heathwood, or Drehear that I know.
The one thing I learned at Clemson about credit cards is if you signed up for one you got a cool t-shirt. I had a friend who signed up for a t-shirt and left college 10k in credit card debt. Just so happens to be the SAME GUY who 3 years later tried to sell me a $400K sub-prime ARm mortgage, the type that caused the financial crisis. I couldn't afford that crap no matter how much he tried to convince me.
Luckily my mother has a masters in banking and was a senior VP at a regional bank having worked decades in the banking system. If my mother cleaned houses for a living, I'd be broke.
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I'm surprised you never have any courses on financial management
Jun 27, 2025, 8:44 AM
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as I went to a rural high school and we had a financial management course. But at the end of the day, these subjects are basic math and reading comprehension. If you can do simple addition and subtraction, you can balance a checkbook. If you can do basic multiplication you can calculate interest on a loan. If you can read, you can understand an insurance agreement.
People act as those these financial literacy courses can fix poverty. They can't. People don't take out huge credit card debts because they don't understand debt. They do it because its allows them to buy things they can't afford. Even worse, if a student can't add, subtract, multiply, and read then the financial literacy course isn't going to help them either. And the poor students who can do those things, it just makes their situation feel even more bleak.
Your biggest safety net from poverty wasn't that your mom understood basic finances. It was the fact she was a high income earner so you were much less likely than your peers to have to live off credit cards during your early adulthood.
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Re: I'm surprised you never have any courses on financial management
Jun 27, 2025, 8:47 AM
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If someone graduates college and fails to grasp something as simple as balancing a checkbook there are major issues at play far beyond the right class not being available to take.
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I agree
Jun 27, 2025, 8:55 AM
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my point is that attacking the lack of financial literacy courses is quite the red herring because it's hard to budget when there is no money to budget.
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Re: This is sad.
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Indeed it is sad.
It's oversimplistic to just blame schools. These concepts of hate and ignorance while craving authoritarianism are best learned at home, and it's been over generations. We just used to be able to keep those imbeciles in their hole. You can find far more blame in the vessels that have given an NC_Tiger a voice. Even just 20 years ago, that voice was contained to a niche site here.
Now, any idiot can have a microphone, and other idiots like him find him and flock to him. You can teach in a school all day long that we landed on the moon and that chem trails are a myth, but when little Johnny goes home and Johnny Sr. spouts off at him about all the BS he read on Wing Nut Twitter, you're now creating two idiots.
People believe garbage because there's so much garbage out there telling them they're right.
If you want a real criticism of the educational system over the years that has helped lead to this, it's the decreasing emphasis on the humanities, which can help spread empathy and respect for other cultures and people. Schools and families over several decades put more importance on STEM in K-12 and tried to pigeonhole kids into those career tracks too early.
One of my favorite and most used quotes from Hemingway is from Whom the Bell Tolls. When the main character Robert Jordan is asked if there are many fascists in America, he replies, "There are many who do not know they are fascists, but will find it out when the time comes."
These people have always been here. For decades, really. They've always wanted this; they just didn't know it. Unfortunately, we've finally found the way to make them discover it.
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Re: This is sad.
Jun 26, 2025, 12:03 PM
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Sent you an IM Tiggity.
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