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Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem
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Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:20 PM

to be able to KILL it in recruiting DT's, so why can't we land elite Edge guys anymore? That must be NIL coming into play, that position is the "glamour" one on defense, getting the gaudy stats.

We have a lot of moves to make to get to 105 on scholarship anyway, hopefully Dabo makes DE a Portal priority.

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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:27 PM

You lost Dabo at portal

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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem


Dec 4, 2024, 12:28 PM

We also don't have any senior DEs though.

If we have some leave through the portal (Denhoff and Patterson), then I would hope the coaches to go get someone from the portal.

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Portal? When, exactly are we going to get

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Dec 4, 2024, 9:13 PM

any meaningful portal guy, let alone st edge?

I'll check my calendar watch.

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We aren't losing anyone this year as of yet

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:29 PM

am I wrong?

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I guess I have to clarify, I was speaking of quality, not quantity. We have

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:46 PM

Parker and not a whole lot else, when it comes to good edge rushers. And again, thinking as to number of spots has to change, with scholly numbers going up to 105.

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Re: I guess I have to clarify, I was speaking of quality, not quantity. We have

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:52 PM

Hoffler will be good in time and Lawson had some flashes this year. Also the big kid that we got in the last class Mayo has potential as does the kid we signed this year.

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Re: I guess I have to clarify, I was speaking of quality, not quantity. We have


Dec 4, 2024, 9:11 PM

We sure need for J.Lawson to continue with his ascent. I wonder if he can add another 10 lbs and not lose quickness and (much) speed. A bit more power would make him a real problem at DE.

Hoeffler? Too bad that we could not have RS’s him back in 2023 when we had three quality DEs at the top of the DE depth chart. I know I know, we were too thin even then at DE to afford being able to RS Hoeffler last year. We can’t RS him in 2025, either. Like you, I hope he’s ready to make the big jump nect year.

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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:56 PM

We needed one or two DE from the portal last year and that had not changed. Pass rush not very good. Ask Sellers.

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I would, but we couldn't catch him to talk to him.

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:58 PM

:(

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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem

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Dec 4, 2024, 12:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem ]

Pass rush was actually pretty solid, we just did not bring him down. The fact Sellers had to scramble is proof we had a good pass rush. We unfortunately just did not have LBs in position to tame him.

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A good pass rush that couldn't tackle Sellers?


Dec 4, 2024, 9:15 PM

That's an oxymoron.

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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem


Dec 4, 2024, 9:20 PM [ in reply to Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem ]

Your observation is what finally made me throw in the towel as my patience about Wes Goodwin. I hate to pile on with the ‘get rid of Assistant Coach ______ ‘ crowd, but Goodwin is the LB coach in addition to the DC. Poor gap discipline by the LBs … not just S.Brown, but also veterans B.Carter and W.Woodaz … played a role in Sellers’ scrambling success.

Two consecutive games (Citadel + S.Carolina) with LBs playing out of position. Citadel game should have been the wake up call. Since Citadel game was not a learning experience, it looks like our LBs didn’t understand gap control responsibilities. That indicates inadequate coaching.

OK, rant is over.

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Dec 4, 2024, 1:22 PM [ in reply to Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem ]

The pass rush was not terrible on the year given we were 31st overall in team sacks across FBS. However, I would have preferred to have seen us rush Sellers as a unit with the goal of keeping him in the pocket.

With a traditional QB, you can cause havoc by having the defensive ends fire off the ball up the field and getting push from the interior. And schematically individual players can create pressure by themselves based on their pass rush move to get to the QB. However, with a mobile QB, it is better to keep the QB in the pocket using a cage concept especially when you are playing man coverage. The D-line should not let their inside shoulder get beyond the QB to avoid running lanes from forming for which the QB could escape while attempting to collectively shrink the pocket.

On both of Sellers' TD runs, our D-line pushed too far up the field letting their inside shoulders get beyond the depth of Sellers drop back opening up running lanes for him to escape the pocket.

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Would have thought they..

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Dec 4, 2024, 8:58 PM

would have drilled this Citadel week and the following but if they did...the discipline didn't show on game day-

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dang dude.. you are hard to please

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Dec 4, 2024, 1:31 PM

the average height at DE is like 6ft 3.

How tall do you want them?

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Dec 4, 2024, 2:51 PM

6-4 or 6-5

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Re: dang dude.. you are hard to please


Dec 4, 2024, 3:58 PM [ in reply to dang dude.. you are hard to please ]

https://youtu.be/xCc-RWIp7XU

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6 star player if i ever saw one***

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Dec 4, 2024, 7:42 PM



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Boo! Gtf off the stage!****


Dec 4, 2024, 9:02 PM [ in reply to dang dude.. you are hard to please ]



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Dec 4, 2024, 9:22 PM [ in reply to dang dude.. you are hard to please ]

Bada bing badda boom!

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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem


Dec 4, 2024, 2:51 PM

We will address DE through the portal.

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Sure we will****


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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem

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Dec 4, 2024, 10:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem ]



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Ari W is a...


Dec 4, 2024, 8:40 PM

Solid SDE good size not a super athletic quick twitch pass rushing prototype according to rival scouts

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#34 Armon Mason


Dec 4, 2024, 9:16 PM

#34 Armon Mason Needs to be on the field. Actually needed to be on the field saturday.

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You getting paid for that?****


Dec 5, 2024, 12:37 AM



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Re: Already woefully short at DE, we only signed one Edge guy in this class. We seem


Dec 4, 2024, 9:21 PM

“We like our guys”

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