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Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team
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Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 10:42 AM
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we should expect to be one of the top 2-3 teams in the nation this year, right? Consider:

-Our QB is a Heisman frontrunner
-We have three players projected to be picked in the top 10 of the 2026 NFL Draft
-Our head coach has won two national championships as a coach and is the third highest paid coach in college football ($11.5 million/year)
-We have one of the highest budgets for assistant coaches in the country, including extremely well-compensated coordinators.
-We have among the best facilities in college football
-We have among the best fans in college football

Plus, our path to a high ranking is about as favorable as it gets, since we play a relatively weak conference schedule and have our biggest nonconference game at home (LSU)

Assuming we stay relatively healthy, there should be no excuse for failing to be one of the top few teams in the nation, right?

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 10:44 AM
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Its a concerning trend.. I dont want these players hearing how great they are all summer going into a challenging opener.
I have #OperationRoyBus going on X.

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The ROY bus was sort of cute when we were ascending to elite program status.

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May 15, 2025, 10:47 AM
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Now it's stupid.

We have been to the mountaintop. We spend big bucks at Clemson to be elite, which now includes players getting notable NIL deals. They get treated like celebrities, with high expectations placed upon them, and they can do their part by rising to the occasion and playing lights out.

Trying to create a false narrative of disrespect or underestimation shouldn't be needed. If they can't handle the expectations and the praise, they aren't cut out for this.

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All those perks sound just like the basketball program.

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May 15, 2025, 2:49 PM
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So what’s Brad’s excuse?

Loser.

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Re: All those perks sound just like the basketball program.

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May 15, 2025, 3:55 PM
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Brad tells us after almost every game.
His players are bums and they don’t execute his brilliant plans.

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Oh, and its also not his fault that his players arent good enough.***

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May 15, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Re: The ROY bus was sort of cute when we were ascending to elite program status.

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May 15, 2025, 3:42 PM [ in reply to The ROY bus was sort of cute when we were ascending to elite program status. ]
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This couldn’t be more wrong… Jordan, the greatest basketball player of all time, created false narratives of disrespect all the time.

Maybe if Brad did the same we’d have beat McNesse State…


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Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time.

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May 15, 2025, 9:43 PM
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He didn’t have to create slights and offenses to motivate himself.

Jordan makes everything a competition. It’s unhealthy.

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Re: Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time.

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May 16, 2025, 8:38 AM
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Maybe you’re just trolling, but if you’re serious then we’ll need to agree to disagree

Why… If you were building a basketball TEAM I agree that Wilt is a better athlete and more physical presence, but there isn’t one rational person that takes him before Jordan

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Plenty of rational people would take Wilt over Jordan.

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May 16, 2025, 8:17 PM
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If you seriously think that Jordan is the clear cut GOAT then you might want to research more NBA eras and talk to more people.

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Re: Plenty of rational people would take Wilt over Jordan.


May 16, 2025, 9:37 PM
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29105801/ranking-top-74-nba-players-all-nos-10-1

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Re: Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time.

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May 16, 2025, 9:26 AM [ in reply to Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time. ]
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Judge, you might just be correct about The Stilt. I also feel Larry Bird was a better all around player than MJ. Better passer, better rebounder, better pure shooter. MJ was just a freak athlete who could run and jump like a deer and had a heart for winning like no other. Mj ranks #2 on my list behind Bird.

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Re: Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time.


May 16, 2025, 7:59 PM
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Did you just argue that Larry Bird is the Best player All Time???

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Re: The ROY bus was sort of cute when we were ascending to elite program status.

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May 15, 2025, 3:42 PM [ in reply to The ROY bus was sort of cute when we were ascending to elite program status. ]
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This couldn’t be more wrong… Jordan, the greatest basketball player of all time, created false narratives of disrespect all the time.

Maybe if Brad did the same we’d have beat McNesse State…


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Losing to McNeese State is not cute in fact it is really stupid.

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May 15, 2025, 5:48 PM [ in reply to The ROY bus was sort of cute when we were ascending to elite program status. ]
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Brad is overpaid because he can’t even win a dumpster fire ACC much less get us to the mountaintop. This is why your posts praising Brad and bashing Dabo make no sense.

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 10:47 AM
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Yes. Missing the playoff would be a massive disappointment. I'd go as far to say a losing our 1st playoff game would be disappointing.

Outside of injury, this a top 5 team in the country.

Go Tigers

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I agree.

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May 15, 2025, 10:51 AM
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I am hoping that Allen will transform our defense. The talent is there, they just needed better coaching and development. I believe he will provide that.

I also want to see our offense take that next step. We were better last year, but we also padded our stats against some really bad defenses. Cade needs to take that next step, and so do our receivers. Running back is still a big question mark. How will our offensive line do?

Lots of questions, but I feel really good overall about where we are going into the season.

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Re: I agree.

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May 15, 2025, 1:46 PM
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What is the “next step” that Cade needs to take? If he simply repeats his numbers from last year he will be one of the best QBs in the country. It’s going to be pretty hard to significantly improve in those stats. But of course, anything short of perfection will be the opportunity you seek so badly to bad mouth the football program.

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So he can't play any better?

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May 15, 2025, 2:16 PM
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Is that what you're saying?

It sounds like you're trying to prepare us for a letdown.

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Re: So he can't play any better?

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May 15, 2025, 4:26 PM
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For a guy who constantly accuses others of putting words in your mouth, you are pretty good at that yourself. I never said he couldn’t play better and I always hope our teams and players will. You said “Cade needs to take that next step“. Most times when that phrase is used there are significant deficiencies that need to be addressed and significant improvement is needed. I simply asked what you consider “that next step” that he “needs to take” to be. And as usual you have no appropriate response so all I can conclude is that you are trolling again. As usual.

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A quick look at Cades QB ratings tell the story.

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May 15, 2025, 9:55 PM
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In our opener against Georgia, his QBR was 96.3. In our loss to Louisville, it was 99.0.

Contrast that to games against App State (QBR 277.9) and Citadel (240.8). Those are big differences.

He had a great year last year, but his performances didn’t feel elite in the big moments. I didn’t have the same confidence in Cade as I did in Deshaun and Trevor. Hopefully that will change this year.

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Re: A quick look at Cades QB ratings tell the story.

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May 16, 2025, 7:27 AM
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Look Maw, yestiddy i couldnt even spell troll!!! Now I are one

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Re: So he can't play any better?

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May 15, 2025, 4:27 PM [ in reply to So he can't play any better? ]
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And just to be clear, I would be satisfied with a repeat performance of last year from Cade.

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Re: I agree.

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May 15, 2025, 4:11 PM [ in reply to I agree. ]
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“Take that next step”, “padded our stats”? Did you watch the playoff game? The offense already took the next step. They also did it with Mafah getting 2 carries. To me the only offensive question is consistency. If we play like that against all of our opponents this year, this could be an all-time great offense.

Defensively, I will be shocked if we are not noticeably better.

Personally, I will be disappointed if we are not a clear title contender. To me, the only things that could prevent that is 1) special teams/punting and 2) depth. I think this team is not as deep as our previous title teams, on defense particularly.

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We scored 24 points against Texas.

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May 15, 2025, 9:58 PM
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We were down 28-10 at halftime.

I don’t consider that the kind of elite offense we need if we want to be national title contenders.

Did YOU watch the playoff game against Texas?

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Re: We scored 24 points against Texas.

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May 16, 2025, 9:11 AM
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I certainly watched the CHOKE JOB by that fabulously coached basketball team….OUT IN 1st ROUND. You fool no one with your back handed posts on football. Sad little boy!!!

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You are chomping at the bit for the first sign of a disappointing

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May 15, 2025, 10:52 AM
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Performance in the season

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If this were tennis

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May 15, 2025, 11:49 AM
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your post would be the equivalent of a serve that sails about 10 feet out of bounds.

Please take a second.

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Re: If this were tennis

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May 15, 2025, 1:50 PM
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TIP is right on the mark.

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No, he isn't.

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May 15, 2025, 2:15 PM
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Accusing me of wanting our football team to play poorly is ridiculous.

You don't have to like some of the points I make, but accusing me of not being a fan is uncalled for.

Do better.

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Youre a shameless liar.

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May 15, 2025, 2:50 PM
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You revel in Clemson failures, save for your boyfriend and mediocre coach Brad Brownell.

Loser.

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Stop feeding the troll, please.***

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May 15, 2025, 3:58 PM
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You never make any points. You just state the obvious like you're some expert.

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May 15, 2025, 4:00 PM [ in reply to No, he isn't. ]
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Most know you're a weak little troll pretending to be a Clemson fan. A "Brad" fan is not the same thing.

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Re: No, he isn't.

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May 15, 2025, 4:32 PM [ in reply to No, he isn't. ]
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I’m doing fine. I know a pretty smart man who said more than once , “ Don't worry about criticism from people that you wouldn't seek advice from”. You fall squarely in that category.

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What does that have to do with accusing me of wanting to see us struggle?***

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May 15, 2025, 9:59 PM
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Re: What does that have to do with accusing me of wanting to see us struggle?***

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May 15, 2025, 10:33 PM
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You told me to do better. I’m doing fine. You are out of line. Don’t judge me, troll. Now does that make sense?

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Thats rich!

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May 15, 2025, 11:21 PM
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You say I’m out of line, yet you are the one doing the name calling.

Do better.

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Re: Thats rich!


May 16, 2025, 9:32 AM
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You are out of line judging me and telling me to do better. If I were the only person on this board calling your comments out, you might have a point. Read the room.

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Re: Thats rich!


May 16, 2025, 9:35 AM [ in reply to Thats rich! ]
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And calling people who use the ROY bus phrase stupid earlier in this thread also makes your name calling comment hypocritical. But you do you.

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Please read more carefully. I never called anyone stupid.

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May 16, 2025, 8:20 PM
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I said that the ROY bus thing is stupid at this point. It’s been overdone. It was cute at first but no one in their right mind should claim at this point that we are disrespected and relegated to underdog status.

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Re: Please read more carefully. I never called anyone stupid.

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May 16, 2025, 8:31 PM
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Right - another trademark of yours. Using words like stupid in such a way that you can deny what you said if it is not quoted verbatim. It’s still name calling.

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Re: You are chomping at the bit for the first sign of a disappointing

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May 15, 2025, 12:13 PM [ in reply to You are chomping at the bit for the first sign of a disappointing ]
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I’m with you TIP… no way to take him seriously.

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 10:55 AM
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Well we had a weak D last year, but we added a new DC and 2 new portal defensive players. So we will see there. I think any finish outside of the top 10 coupled with a loss to the coots would be a letdown season. Anything above that is a job well done.

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I agree. I really like the Allen hire.

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May 15, 2025, 11:49 AM
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I think we will see a much better defense.

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 10:55 AM
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As long as we stop the run I think this team will be elite and in serious contention for a national championship appearance.
I’m not worried about the offense. If Cade plays like he did in the 2nd half vs. Texas we will be hard to beat. Our downfall was not stopping the run and having no run game late in the season.

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 11:18 AM
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A lot of "ifs" in there. Let's not fall into the same trap of speculation seen as reality. Lot of work to be done. If the D shows to be no better against the run, all speculation will be moot.

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Hope we don't #### the bed in our 1st playoff game against a low seed and

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May 15, 2025, 11:23 AM
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pretend it was a good year.

Fortunately, Dabo is a good big game coach and motivator.

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A good big game coach and motivator?

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May 15, 2025, 2:14 PM
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Not lately.

See Georgia, South Carolina, and Texas in 2024.

See 0-5 in our last 5 games against AP top 5 teams.

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2 National Titles, 9 ACC Championships, 8 ACC Atlantic Division Championships &

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May 15, 2025, 3:08 PM
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an overall record of 20 wins and 8 losses in postseason games.

That is the definition of big game coach and motivator.

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You had to go back to the last decade for that.

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May 15, 2025, 10:00 PM
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LOL.

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How far back do you have to go to list brad's championships? lol,

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May 16, 2025, 9:44 AM
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we'll wait.

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I am wanting & hoping for another run as bad as anybody........

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May 15, 2025, 11:34 AM
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But I still remember the sting of losing a recent opener to Duke by 3 touchdowns.

So, this boy's emotions are going to stay in check until the hype is backed up on the field.





Go Tigers!

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Re: I am wanting & hoping for another run as bad as anybody........

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May 15, 2025, 12:15 PM
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Exactly!!! Beat LSU!!!

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May 15, 2025, 7:16 PM [ in reply to I am wanting & hoping for another run as bad as anybody........ ]
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My thoughts exactly! Plan for 3-10 and scream Go Tigers on the hay bale toter when we win 11 or 12.

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 11:59 AM
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I would emphasize, do not read the hype. Stay focused! Everyone looks good at the starting line!

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 12:10 PM
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Hopefully they don’t lose in the ACC championship game and the first round of the playoffs. I just can’t believe anything you say is not in jest.
We have the pieces… now they just need to fit together. Go Tigers!!! Beat LSU!!!

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 1:52 PM
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It’s not in jest. He is seriously teeing things up to continue his tired narrative if this team falls anywhere short of a national championship.

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Teeing things up?

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May 15, 2025, 2:17 PM
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I did not create the Heisman hype, national championship contender hype, 3 picks in the top 10 hype, or 5 picks in the top 20 hype.

That is coming from journalists, analysts, and others who make predictions for a living.

Are you saying that these predictions are unfounded, and we shouldn't expect to be really good this year?

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Re: Teeing things up?

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May 15, 2025, 4:40 PM
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Again, I said none of that. I said you tee up selected comments so you can come back later and claim underperformance, complacency, stubbornness, and whatever other criticism of the football program that you can conjure up. You are setting the table for later, apparently hoping for an opportunity to take shots at the football program as many others have noted on here and as you have clearly made a habit of doing in the past.

I think we have a chance to be really good this year. But I also know that hype, coach’s salaries, facilities, and predictions from “experts” don’t guarantee results. Just ask Sheddeur Sanders. That’s why we play the games.

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No, I am hoping for a return to elite status.

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May 15, 2025, 11:24 PM
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After all, we support the program accordingly and have shown that we are capable of it.

I’m tired of losing to the best teams on our schedule. Beating up on weak ACC teams doesn’t mean much when we can’t beat the SEC and are nowhere near being among the best teams in the country anymore.

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Re: No, I am hoping for a return to elite status.


May 16, 2025, 9:36 AM
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Enjoy the “down” period while you can.

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I bought Clemson football stock two years ago when Dabo told me to.

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May 16, 2025, 8:21 PM
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It hasn’t really gone up since then. Hopefully it will this year.

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Re: I bought Clemson football stock two years ago when Dabo told me to.

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May 16, 2025, 8:33 PM
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We were 4-4 when he made that comment. Things have certainly gotten better since then. By then admitting that isn’t part of your agenda.

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I do not envy you. Looking at the state of our roster and coaching this

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May 15, 2025, 12:16 PM
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season and using it to set-up a anti-Dabo gotcha is just a sad, sad way to spend time here. I wonder, if you went back in time and let a couple of perceived BB slights go, if you would have avoided this spiral. Guess we'll never know.

I for one...as much as I enjoy the S-show that College Football has become...will sit back and take in a potential barn burner against LSU to start the season. We'll see how we look. I'm optimistic based on the returning talent, the development we've seen and the coaching changes (especially coming off of a playoff appearance and ACC Championship), but of course you never know how it goes. That's sports.

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There is no setup. I am seeing the hefty praise for our coaches and players

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May 15, 2025, 2:19 PM
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including predictions of special seasons and asking if these expectations are reasonable.

I think it's reasonable to ask what everyone things are fair expectations for the season.

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Same thing could have said about Brad's best mens team ever...

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May 15, 2025, 12:20 PM
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Right jester?

Judge Keller®

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Re: Given the high praise and lofty predictions for our 2025 football team

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May 15, 2025, 12:23 PM
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This post seems like a setup for another one later

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May 15, 2025, 1:54 PM
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That’s what he does.

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May 15, 2025, 12:28 PM
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LOL this is so utterly transparent. I think folks are onto your schtick because its clear how your OP is neither trying to get consensus nor actually give your personal thoughts and expectations.

What is it with you and your cadre of minions that you are so desperate to get people to give you "receipts" so you can litter the board during the season with snarky troll bait like "Well what I learned on TNet was..." at the first negative thing that occurs.

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May 15, 2025, 12:37 PM
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That's exactly what he's doing is setting up for later. Every time I wonder why the traffic on this message board is so slow, posters like him give a reminder.

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If there was any doubt remaining that you truly hope for Clemson football

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May 15, 2025, 12:41 PM
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and particularly Dabo to fail, it is now gone. This post is a clear effort to have you on record so, if things do not go well, you have an "I told you so" in your back pocket. That is truly pathetic! Your "right?" at the end of a couple of sentences is not excitement for the possibilities for this year's team, nor is it consensus building around your points, rather it is laced with your hope that failure comes so you can ramp up your anti Dabo rhetoric while building excuses for BB in case basketball flops.

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May 15, 2025, 1:56 PM
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Yep. That’s his tired old schtick.

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And your tired old schtick seems to be echoing this same sentiment over and over

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May 15, 2025, 2:23 PM
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as you have done no less than four times in one thread.

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May 15, 2025, 4:46 PM
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I only comment when you post the junk that’s obviously trying to create opportunities to take shots at the football program. There is a very simple way to reduce the number of times I expose your hypocrisy. Let’s see if you can figure it out.

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You should place me on ignore so you dont have to read my posts.

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May 15, 2025, 11:26 PM
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Oh that’s right, you can’t, because you don’t donate to TNet.

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Re: You should place me on ignore so you dont have to read my posts.

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May 16, 2025, 9:39 AM
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I don’t believe in the ignore feature or censoring posts. I believe all comments should be left in plain sight far everyone to see and form their own opinions. This thread shows what a lot of people on this site think of your posts. It’s not just me. Again, read the room.

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Its funny that you think that bothers me.***

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May 16, 2025, 8:22 PM
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May 16, 2025, 8:35 PM
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It’s funny that I think what bothers you? Please tell me more about what I think. It might be dizzying to hear it with your spin.

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I don't care about saying I told you so.

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May 15, 2025, 2:22 PM [ in reply to If there was any doubt remaining that you truly hope for Clemson football ]
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I do care about having a reasonable expectation for the upcoming football season though.

To be honest, I am a bit surprised to see us being mentioned as a legitimate national title contender. I expect us to be better than last year, but the jump to truly being elite this year seems like a big one. However, if I am warranted in thinking that this could likely be a 2016 or 2018 type of year, then I will certainly get on board.

Rather than resorting to personal attacks, perhaps you can weigh in on the topic at hand:

Do you think we are one of the best few teams in the country this year, and have a legitimate chance to be national champions? Yes or no?

This isn't complicated.

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May 15, 2025, 2:38 PM
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You go first. Since you are trying to setup a gotcha for later, why not play your own game?

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I just told you what I thought.

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May 15, 2025, 11:27 PM
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Did you not read my post?

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May 16, 2025, 7:21 PM
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Nothing in the OP contains your thoughts on the season

They are in order

A question
A sports reporters thought
A sports reporters admitted way too early mock draft
A statement of fact
An assumption of fact
A fact
A fact
A backhanded opinion on SOS
A question

All you came up with above, after making several contrarian statements was we might be better than last year but not elite. Yet you failed to define elite, which obviously isn’t elite in your definition.

How about a W/L and postseason prediction?

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May 15, 2025, 3:59 PM [ in reply to I don't care about saying I told you so. ]
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Yes, I think Clemson has a legit chance to be national champions this year……. They have to take it one game at a time, stay healthy, get better each week… there is no reason to think they can’t at those point in season, just have to play it out….. focus, stay hungry and humble…

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May 15, 2025, 6:58 PM [ in reply to I don't care about saying I told you so. ]
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Doesn't this contradict your first post? Or, you were just trying to stir the pot i guess.

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May 15, 2025, 1:59 PM
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If you’re asking if we can score more than 13 points against McNeese State in a half. I think yes, the football team should exceed your expectations.

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Based on 16 seasons and really only one great year,

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May 15, 2025, 2:48 PM
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Will we win any tournament games this year?

We certainly seem to be going backwards.

As a side note, why are you such an immature loser and troll?

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May 15, 2025, 3:51 PM
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Preseason hype is nothing but rat poison. Thankfully, we have a HC who understands that and will keep them focused on what’s really important.

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Focused like we were last year in the opener against Georgia?

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May 15, 2025, 11:28 PM
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Or the year before in the opener against Duke?

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May 15, 2025, 3:58 PM
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What 3 players are you referring to as top 10 draft picks?

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By your own reasoning . . .

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May 15, 2025, 4:08 PM
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Brad is underperforming . . .

Brad is paid $3.5 Million to lead 13 players . . . which equates to $269,230.00 per player.

Dabo is paid $11.5 Million to lead 85 players . . . (which doesn’t count walkons or the soon coming increase roster size) . . . which equates to $135,294.00 player.

Brad should have 4 National Titles by now . . . or . . . we need to increase Dabo’s compensation to $22,884,615.00 to match Brad’s.

This is the kind of reasoning you spew daily. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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May 15, 2025, 5:59 PM
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I enjoy his posts. Very entertaining. He reminds me of that pesky lil brother who’d always stir the pot

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May 15, 2025, 7:06 PM
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On paper, yes......

That being said we were very lucky on the injury bug during our stretch between 2015-2019. Luck always plays into the equation.

And you have to play the game....

Even though JK01 takes a lot of heat on this board for pointing out problems with the football program, and has largely been fair in his statements, Dabo has responded to everything and has found his way in the landscape we see now.

The friends and family hires he made the hard decisions to part ways with his players he promoted to premature coaching positions and has made home run hires with OC, DC, and OL.

He has leveraged NIL to keep guys here while still not leading with it in the recruiting process focusing on culture first and he has been absolutely correct on how he did it. We compensate our players and even are using the portal.

Dabo started adapting back when he started having official visits in the off-season about 7-8 years ago and offering guys earlier than he has in the past.

We can all get along b/c there is no doubt, we all want the same thing. For all Clemson athletic programs to perform well and I believe across all sports, the state of the athletic department is very very strong and I am proud to be a Clemson Tiger alum and fan.

Dabo has stood by his players even when it was obvious they weren't performing at the level they should focusing on DJU and CK in his sophomore year. That's a coach you want to play for. He is selective at calling position groups or players out publicly, but I am proud how he will stand behind his QBs even if we all know they aren't getting it done. Thats how it should be.... He stood behind Kelly when TL was waiting in the wings until he couldn't anymore. He always had DJUs back, and he always had CKs back even after the Duke game.


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Thank you.

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May 16, 2025, 8:27 PM
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I agree that Dabo seems to be adapting. He has grown as a coach and program leader and I am optimistic that we are on our way to being an elite program again.

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May 15, 2025, 7:11 PM
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I am very happy that our basketball program has been trending in the right direction.

Our football program has been to the mountain top three times.

Our soccer program has been there four times.

Why are you a troll Judge?

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May 16, 2025, 6:27 AM
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Great post until the last sentence. Then you turn on the ol Keller charm with a confrontational loaded question.

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May 16, 2025, 6:43 AM
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🤡

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May 16, 2025, 6:44 AM
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First year DC, unproven RBs, meh O line, a QB who still is just a game manager, & a head coach who still won't butt out of calling dumb, drive killing trick plays at critical points in the game. I'm not seeing the justification for the hype. Fans are being setup for another let down. This is probably a 2 or 3 loss during the regular season FB team.

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Go back to FGF


May 16, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Or whatever rock you crawled out from.

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May 16, 2025, 8:40 AM
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Excellent job parroting Walt🙄

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May 16, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Clemson will be favored in every game we play this season.

If we lose any game it will be an upset

Now that may change , especially in the event we lose our opener.

If that occurs then the table will be reset in accordance with margin of loss.

That being said , it is extremely difficult to go undefeated. The difference is usually determined by the intangibles ( injury , turnovers ) etc.

You also have to add a little luck in the mix as well.

We have done it in the past and this year it appears all the stars are in alignment again for a special season.

Let's Go Tigers!

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The collective head of Tigernet

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May 16, 2025, 9:01 AM
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If you don’t like being trolled hit the ignore button

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Right***

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May 16, 2025, 9:20 AM
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It is a wonderful thing to be great.

Perhaps one day we'll have a reason to say of the basketball team that:

One our starting five is a Wooden award frontrunner
- we have three players projected to go top 10 NBA draft
- our head coach has won two national championships and (as a result) is now the third-highest paid coach in college basketball
- A generous budget (made possible by those national basketball titles) for recruiting the nation's best assistants and coordinators
- One of the best facilities in college basketball
- Some of the best fans in college basketball

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May 16, 2025, 8:30 PM
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Excellent job! 12 mentions of “we” or “our”!
Teammates!

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May 16, 2025, 8:58 PM
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Bird and Wilt over Jordan???GTFOut of here!

Lol

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May 16, 2025, 9:23 PM
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Basketball will never get to final four, ever...and I am conditioned to be ok with that. But, we need a coach that gives us a chance.

Don't worry about football loser.

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