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I wasn't impressed with Senator Obama's speech.
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I wasn't impressed with Senator Obama's speech.


Mar 18, 2008, 4:39 PM

Senator Obama's speech didn't make me feel better about his candidacy.

I came into this election cycle thinking Senator Clinton was the worst democratic candidate I could imagine. Obama's taken that place these days. I intend to vote for McCain. If we are to have a democrat, I'd rather see see Senator Clinton get the job than Senator Obama.

Here's what came to my mind as I read Obama's speech on the Reverend Wright issues.

"It was stained by this nation?s original sin of slavery,"

HUH? Slavery was common in the world when the US was born. Our grand experiment started off right and has continued mostly in the right direction for a couple of hundred years. If you want to iterate the sins of the world, go ahead but slavery is not some particularly American sin. We were wrong. We fixed it.

"What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part ? through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time."

What is not needed is a President sworn to defend the Constitution seemingly endorsing civil disobedience as a reasonable method of narrowing a gap between any two groups inside the United States. If you want to be a rebel, go ahead, but you can?t be a rebel and President at the same time.

"to continue the long march"

A good sense of history would seemingly preclude an American candidate for President from from using the phrase ?the long march? in talking about where he wants to lead us.

"In South Carolina, where the Confederate Flag still flies..."

Thanks. We needed that like a hole in our heads

"the discussion of race in this campaign has taken a particularly divisive turn."

When you get into the limelight, people look at you pretty hard. This view has, for me at least, been unsettling. Sorry, but you get no pass on racial politics and beliefs. No quarter asked, no quarter given is how running for President has mostly always worked.

"we?ve heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it?s based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap."

What else is the big driver that propels Obama, a freshman Senator of little achievement and fairly short on experience, with fairly liberal record to the front of the line of democrats who want to be president?

"they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country ? a view that sees white racism as endemic??comments were not only wrong but divisive"

Hear, Hear. All such comments must be stoutly opposed. Not ignored, not swept under a rug, not ameliorated by other good things that exist, but stoutly opposed.

"monumental problems ? two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change....."

Huh? What?s monumentally wrong about two wars and the US efforts to thwart terrorism? What is the roll of the President in tough economic times? What is our chronic health care crisis? Is it fat kids? Devastating Climate change? Oh please. Spare me the Chicken Little approach.

"the Christians in the lion?s den"

?? Don?t stop him. He?s on a roll?

"The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America."

I thought most Christians of think of the church as the body of Christ and that the only really important thing in any Christian church is the Holy Spirit moving among sinners. I wonder how it is that Obama can talk so much about his Christian Church and say so little about Jesus Christ? In my church, most of us cannot talk more than a few words about our experience without getting into the saving graces of Jesus Christ and our need to be reconciled with our God. I'm not demanding a Christian President, btw, it's just I expect to hear christianity from a Christian when talking about his church.


"But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now"

I was really worried Obama might think this. All I want to do, all that is right to do is for all of us to ignore race pretty much entirely. I thought that was the whole point? My life is not centered on race. It?s not a major issue for me or, I'd guess for the big majority of Americans. I just want a good President, one who focuses on the whole country not 15% of us and certainly not one who thinks the problems of the 15% are somehow center stage in American life. This is worse than I thought. Funny, but I never thought of Colin Powell as the CinC who?d work especially hard for the black soldiers.

"The past isn?t dead and buried. In fact, it isn?t even past. We do not need to recite here the history of racial injustice in this country. But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow."

Well there you have it. If we were electing a woman President, I?d not want one who focused on women?s issues. If we were electing a Yankee, I?d not want one who thought that what happened in New England was especially important. If the candidates name is Gonzales, I?m hoping his focus is NOT on Latino issues. If we were electing a southerner, his concern for the south would be of fairly low interest for me. Seems like we are back on the exercise in Affirmative Action.

"Segregated schools,,,, Legalized discrimination?..A lack of economic opportunity among black men??the lack of basic services in so many urban black neighborhoods...."

Who is advising Senator Obama? He?s got the black vote. Why is he campaigning for that segment of the vote?

"the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races."

So we should fuel the anger? I thought we'd be channelling the energy not legitimzing anger.

"the real culprits of the middle class squeeze ? a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed;"

What was it Obama said about Rev. Wright? ?comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity? It is clear Obama thinks it is OK to demonize successful America. He seems pretty content and intent on creating a divide and exploiting it full tilt here. It looks to me like he learned a good bit from Rev. Wright.

"It?s a racial stalemate we?ve been stuck in for years"

<15% of the country is black. >85% is not black. We are not stuck in a racial stalemate. The racial stalemate is not center to American politics or life unless you want it to be. Clearly, Obama wants it to be. I think such a narrow focus is almost a nogo for the office of the President.

"In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination - and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past - are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds"

Obama seems pretty intent on being a one track candidate in this speech. Katrina was a racial event? Crazy.

"It is not enough to give health care to the sick, or jobs to the jobless, or education to our children. But it is where we start?..that is where the perfection begins "

Scary for me acting like it's within the power of the President to GIVE health car or jobs or education. If Obama is elected, we?ll survive, but he looks less like the guy I want as President than he did before he wrote this piece.


I might not be mainstream, but those are the parts of the speech that make me favor Clinton over Obama.

But, I'm voting for McCain anyway. I guess he wasn't talking to or for me.

Harley

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I stopped reading after you said Obama was worse than Hil.***


Mar 18, 2008, 4:40 PM



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Correction.


Mar 18, 2008, 4:49 PM

You said: "What is not needed is a President sworn to defend the Constitution seemingly endorsing civil disobedience as a reasonable method of narrowing a gap between any two groups inside the United States. If you want to be a rebel, go ahead, but you can?t be a rebel and President at the same time."

Reread what Obama said:

"And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part ? through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time."

He's not being a rebel. It was rebels who delivered equality for blacks in America. And this is a country FOUNDED by rebels.

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#### you. :)***


Mar 18, 2008, 4:53 PM



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This part:


Mar 18, 2008, 4:50 PM

"What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part ? through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time."

What is not needed is a President sworn to defend the Constitution seemingly endorsing civil disobedience as a reasonable method of narrowing a gap between any two groups inside the United States. If you want to be a rebel, go ahead, but you can?t be a rebel and President at the same time.


Civil disobedience WAS a reasonable method of narrowing the gap between two groups in the United States. As he is talking here about the Civil Rights Movement, he is correct. His use of past tense ("would be needed", not "is needed", and "reality of their time", not "reality of our time") and your critique indicate that you misunderstood that part of the speech.

I know this doesn't matter, you weren't voting for him anyway.

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Slavery wasn't that big a deal


Mar 18, 2008, 4:55 PM

everyone was doing it.

(Ed Note: I found it fascinating that in your critique, you left out his recognition of the real and legitimate anger of whites over affirmative action and his acknowledgment that welfare has contributed to a cycle of poverty that began with some of the things you did whine about)

Obama is only a candidate because he's black.

Recognition of the good that was done by civil disobediance = support of civil disobediance as president.

Stop reminding us about the flag, we love it so.

Monumental problems = monumentally wrong

He's a heathen!!!!!

There are no racial divisions in this country that can't be healed by ignoring them.

Hey, he seems to think that starting your American dream in 1960, despite having an uniquely negative American past of 150 years prior to it is somehow different than starting in 1600's as a free people. What a #######!

Why does he keep bringing up RACE, what has this speech got to do with RACE?

He said give it to them, he must mean he's personally going to do that. He can't be talking about some kind of systemic effort to address a shortfall.

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Re: Slavery wasn't that big a deal


Mar 18, 2008, 5:55 PM

He blew it in this speech. There are those that wet their pants at the sight if Obama and there are those who are serious about evaluating the candidates given that they are running to be the leader of the free world. He needed to apologize for not disavowing this clown years ago. He needed to plead for forgiveness for not knowing what was going own at this kangaroo court of a church. He needed to say that he was not looking to give special favors to blacks and make excuses for black social problems. He needed to say that he wanted to unite a free people where color was not a consideration in any meaningful aspect of life. What he did was make excuses for Wright's behavior. He insulted the MAJORITY of blacks who are not obsessed with race. Thank God that most black people just view themselves as people.

Find me a black person who had a grandparent that was a slave. I can find you plenty of folks who came here not speaking English who lived under the yoke of communism slavery who are seriously kicking ###. I can find Indian "untouchables", Mexican "wetbacks" and plenty of folks from East Bumcluck China who are getting it done. THere are also legions of black folks who just get on with it and don't bring up slavery. Slavery discussions about people living in 2008 are silly to most of us. My old teamates that I trained with, practiced with, ate with and fought with never mentioned slavery. I guess they were afraid that I'd pick up the kkk phone and call in the necks with the chains and shotguns. I am from the rural fields of lower SC and I find all this weird.

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Thanks for that objective assessment...


Mar 18, 2008, 6:11 PM

that was a lot of words to say:

"He should have said something I agree with because I know black people better'n he does, after all I know one black guy who really works hard, you may have read my post about him."

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Re: Thanks for that objective assessment...


Mar 18, 2008, 6:31 PM

Nope- I know plenty of black folks who work hard and don't play the race card.

Chicago is a great city. You should go visit there, eat at Charlie Trotters and Carson's and go visit that radical church. You might want to think twice before doing what our Ag Econ group did in '85 when we went there to visit the CBOT; we walked through a tough area of the SOuth Side rather than taking cab when going to see the Bulls play. I have an old friend who was a landlord on the West Side in a tough tough black neighborhood. He is a tall blond dude from rural Nebraska and was a celebrity on the block where he owned an old townhouse. One of the tenents had a little soul food restaurant that we ate at and the food was excellent. It was culture shock for me because the cash register was behind bullet-proof glass and there was a hand written sign that showed a guy with a big afro being clubbed by a couple of other guys with big 'fros. The sign said something like "absolutely no credit and if you don't pay, we ain't callin' the police" The whole experience down there was excellent- I'm glad Pastor Wright was not there.

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Linge Libbies ain't gonna like this***


Mar 18, 2008, 4:59 PM



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Why do white people get so defensive about racism?***


Mar 18, 2008, 5:14 PM



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He's not defensive, he thinks it should be ignored.***


Mar 18, 2008, 5:16 PM



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And all the little


Mar 18, 2008, 5:48 PM

bushies with nothing to defend but failure go, "me too, me too".

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and the colored girls sing...


Mar 18, 2008, 9:16 PM

do, do do, do do...

;)

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FAT TAX NOW!


My opinion on racism is that I'd rather be white. As long as


Mar 18, 2008, 5:55 PM

that is true, then racism still exists.

But I don't think it CAN be eradicated. The fact is, there are a certain hard-core group of blacks and whites who will never like the other. It will take genrations to erode those groups into an insignificant percentage.

But that's just my opinion.

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"Every man is my superior, in that I may learn something from him."


if i could jump like a black dude, but do math like an asian


Mar 18, 2008, 9:14 PM

i'd be golden. ;)

seriously, who cares?

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FAT TAX NOW!


Most of the founders knew it was a sin


Mar 18, 2008, 5:56 PM

they had no idea it would take a civil war to fix it

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Corporations are people. So is Soylent Green.


The Civil War was fought over slavery?***


Mar 18, 2008, 6:09 PM



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'I Cannot Sanction Your Buffoonery'


You misspelled "dictator."


Mar 18, 2008, 6:15 PM [ in reply to Most of the founders knew it was a sin ]

I love when these topics come up at random, lol.

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Good post, Harley.***


Mar 18, 2008, 6:04 PM



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'I Cannot Sanction Your Buffoonery'


Great post. Obama has duped alot of naive young people,


Mar 18, 2008, 7:50 PM

but his true priorities are showing more and more

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he's black?***


Mar 18, 2008, 9:12 PM



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FAT TAX NOW!


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