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just a thought about Thompson/Mainord
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just a thought about Thompson/Mainord


Mar 6, 2005, 8:13 AM

I remember shaking my head last year - and getting into a flamewar with some USC fans - when Holtz signed K.T. Mainord. The way it had gone down was: Mainord had thrown off Alabama's campus during his official visit for allegedly stealing a girl's purse and checkbook. He told a somewhat different story, but even by his own admission he'd thrown the purse away...and held onto the checkbook for "safekeeping." On the drive home from Alabama's campus, Mainord apparently called up Holtz and was assured that no such travesty of justice would ever occur at USC, and he committed to Holtz on the phone right then and there.

A few days later, you had reporters from quality publications like The State doing really bang-up journalistic jobs about what a great misunderstood fellow Mainord was, and what a great fellow Holtz in turn was for not being fooled by how badly those mean folks down in 'Bama had treated K.T. If somebody still has a link to that one article in particular I'd love to see it...but I have this funny feeling it's been yanked by now. ;)

Now, Holtz clearly didn't do his homework. All it would have taken was one phone call to the Alabama campus cops or Alabama AD to have gotten Alabama's version on what went down with Mainord on his official visit, but clearly Holtz wasn't interested in doing his homework. Mainord was a big, athletic, 260+ pound D-lineman, the rarest commodity among high school prospects, and Holtz clearly wasn't interested in character references, and he didn't even seem particularily interested that Mainord might have been committing felonies on his first official visit to the place where he might have been spending the next five years of his life.

One might be forgiven now for thinking Mainord was a little bit more than the victim of a "misunderstanding" with the University of Alabama. It appears now Mainord might actually be a habitual criminal. But was Moe Thompson? I don't think so. I certainly haven't heard of any incidences like this involving Thompson before. From what I understand of the story coming out of Columbia, it was Mainord who was largely the instigator - and benefactor - of the crime committed. Thompson was allegedly there, he allegedly participated, but it looks like his "take" from the crime was substantially less than Mainord's - some accounts I've heard say he got all of $12 - and it doesn't appear Thompson was the instigator of this particular piece of singularly bad judgement.

So letting Mainord in didn't merely backfire on USC one time. It doubled down; letting Mainord in may have also cost USC their best defensive lineman, and probably their single best defensive player. It may have also cost Moe Thompson his future...or at the very least, it seriously derailed it. Yeah, yeah, I know: Thompson is responsible for his own actions. But without the bad apple there, would that situation have ever even arisen?

I dunno if the "full, unvarnished truth" about what happened with Thompson and Mainord will ever come out...but I do know that Holtz was more than slightly remiss in ever allowing Mainord near his locker room without a full and complete inquiry into the kid's background, especially in light of what happened with Alabama. Why the USC administration and athletic department tolerated that kind of conduct is beyond me...and to me, that makes them equally complicit. Moe Thompson might indeed be guilty of what he was charged with, but he had accomplices...not the least of which were Lou Holtz and the whole USC administration. Moe's mom, I'm told, is hopping mad...and while her behavior has seemed more than a little strange in retrospect...one can also say she's probably got a definite right to be angry. If I entrusted my boy to a coach for five years, and that coach was knowingly putting felons right at his elbow in the locker right next to him, I think I'd be more than a little angry myself.

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Another masterpiece from Q***


Mar 6, 2005, 8:36 AM



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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


The root of the problem: Andrew Sorenson. There I've said it


Mar 6, 2005, 9:05 AM

Who was president at Alabama when all their crap went on? He was hired at USuC for the simple reason that he knows how to look the other way. That board has been hoo-dooed and they should all be replaced.

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Ding Ding Ding......we have a winner.***


Mar 6, 2005, 9:16 AM



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Re: just a thought about Thompson/Mainord


Mar 6, 2005, 9:29 AM

I do not know if Thompson and Mainord are guilty or innocent of this, only with what they are charged, but with all the PTI talk there is one thing being overlooked. The charges are that they entered an occupied room to steal the items. This is the same as breaking into your house while you are in there and is a much different situation than entering an unoccupied residence. It either took guts or stupidity to pull that off and I am not going to make a judgement there but this case is much different that taking the pictures from the athletic office.

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If I understand correctly this crime does not


Mar 6, 2005, 9:34 AM

allow anyone to qualify for pti. Is it because of breaking into an occupied residence?

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As I understand it, Yes.


Mar 6, 2005, 9:41 AM

Breaking into a occupied residence is 1st Degree burglary and is not eligible for PTI. Think of what could happen if the occupants wake up during the theft. Panic sets in and someone winds up dead. That is the difference.

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i agree in part, but the whole Holtz, USC accomplice schtick


Mar 6, 2005, 9:38 AM

is pretty weak. Perhaps Moe was influenced by the "bad apple", but I do not give Moe any breaks for people talked into committting a crime. He knew is was wrong.

In retrospect, Holtz could not save these players and help to build their future.

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Sandlapper the sad thing is that lou will never be held


Mar 6, 2005, 9:58 AM

accountable for his part in all of these things going on at usc now. As you said he brought many young men into contact with criminal elements and these same young men may never have even considered doing things they are now charged with,ala Moe. I do not know Moe Thompson and he may be as bad as Mainord but I don't remember hearing of him getting into trouble before going down to that place. Other guilty parties are the reporters who have spent so much time trying to find something on CU while coddling and making excuses for usc, lou and the whole bunch at coot u. Sure we have had some guys do bad things but I can't recall this many or to this extent. The reporters are just now getting arround to placing any blame on lou and even then they are very careful to stay in his "good"graces.

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it is not like Moe was some 12 year old....he is probably 21


Mar 6, 2005, 11:10 AM

plenty old enough to say no

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LOL Lou was changing the culture alright!***


Mar 6, 2005, 9:40 AM



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I remember that incident also...


Mar 6, 2005, 10:57 AM

but did not remember the specific player involved. Nice pickup.

I think that class of USC DLs was ranked like #2 in the country by superprep with Mainord, Capers, Hall, Raysor, etc. I wondered how they would stack up with Scott, Jackson, Robinson, McKissic, Gabriel, etc. down the road.

Now Mainord was arrested for B&E and it's rumored Capers, who did not qualify, robbed someone at knife point. Even though Hall/Raysor are good players/starters we clearly got the better class even looking one year later. Those "10 ten classes" turned out to be jokes.

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What about Mainord's brother?


Mar 6, 2005, 12:16 PM

I read in The State yesterday that Mainord's brother worked in So Car's equipment room last year and will graduate this Spring. Was Mainord's brother a USC student all along and the reason KT considered USC? Or, did Lou promise KT that upon his signing with So Car, that his brother would be admitted to So Car and given a job in the AD? If this happened, is this type of activity allowed under NCAA rules?

Just another Lou signee that needed a paid babysitter, I guess.

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Good points deserve good points!


Mar 6, 2005, 12:21 PM

Of which I'll share with you....

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