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So, we're basically here.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:05 AM
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-The election was legitimate. Biden won. Trump lost. -There hasn't been any proven evidence of fraud. Georgia's recount highlights that. The counts and recounts have been done by bipartisan officials. -Trump's lawsuits are failing. -Trump and his team are now trying to subvert the election by putting pressure on state officials to interfere with the results. -Any American who is supporting the president and his team's actions in these endeavors basically do not care for the democratic process to play out but are simply partisan hacks who are fine with this president's attempts to steal the election and harm our nation's security.
Please, by all means, refute any of this and provide evidence to shut me down.
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Re: So, we're basically here.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:11 AM
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Well that was easy
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Re: So, we're basically here.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:18 AM
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Come on Cat, you know this is just a distraction so Jared and Don Jr can rip all the copper plumbing out of the white house.
If you told him Lincoln hid gold in a secret vault in the west wing, the entire family would be up all night with sledge hammers poking holes in everything.
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You know, that's an interesting point.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:20 AM
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I'm going to be curious to see what the Trump family steals out of there. I predict some of the Norman Rockwell paintings.
Yes, they are going to steal things, Trumpers.
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Kayleighy McEnany on the day before inauguration...
Nov 20, 2020, 3:04 PM
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"Today it is with great regret we have to announce that our 4 year investigation into Obama's theft of numerous priceless paintings from the White House has not resulted in the return of those paintings."
President Trump will address you now:
Trump: Obama stole a LOT of paintings. All of the good ones. Also the original Declaration of Independence.
Reporter: There were pictures of your children carrying paintings out to a van last night. The van was tracked to your manhattan apartment.
Trump: That's a nasty question. You're also very ugly. Next.
T3Tiger on TNet the next day: You guys love Obama so much and he STOLE paintings from the White House!
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Re: So, we're basically here.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:20 AM
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What about the bombshell Venezuela news?
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Re: So, we're basically here.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:24 AM
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Felt bad for Rudy. He had a serious flop sweat issue yesterday during the presser. Whatever dye he puts on his hair was running down both cheeks. Not a good look.
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I found yesterday's press conference compelling.
Nov 20, 2020, 10:28 AM
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How can one not believe in massive voter fraud after that?
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Isn’t there some evidence of fraud in every national
Nov 20, 2020, 11:05 AM
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election? Just not enough to change the result.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Depends on who won. If it's a Democrat it's obviously legit
Nov 20, 2020, 11:07 AM
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If a Republican wins....Well, we've got to get to the bottom of that.
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what does this even mean? in what other case have Dems
Nov 20, 2020, 12:00 PM
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failed to concede an election after the results were clear? Haven't they exhausted every avenue? and keep in mind, it's not like Gore/Bush where the election came down to literally hundreds of votes in one state. We're talking 10s of thousands of votes across several states.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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You know what it means. There's nothing clear about this
Nov 20, 2020, 12:26 PM
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election. I'm not sure, have they? All of the votes aren't certified. Maybe this breaks from tradition of conceding based on media projections, but I'm not quick to denounce it given the last 4 years. Although I remain continually amazed by the "nothing to see here" attitude displayed by the same exact people who pushed a Russian collusion narrative for 4 years.
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I don't think it's a coincidence that the same people who
Nov 20, 2020, 12:52 PM
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think this election is suspicious are the same people who think Russian hacking and collusion was a hoax. I'll go out on a limb and presume that they're also not convinced that anthropogenic climate change is real.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I guess it's a good thing we're past attempting to reconcile
Nov 20, 2020, 1:18 PM
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political beliefs then. I hope everyone gets what they voted for good and hard. And that goes for everyone.
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Re: Isn’t there some evidence of fraud in every national
Nov 20, 2020, 11:42 AM
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joseph,
I hate to see us continue to call mistakes fraud. I think it muddies the water.
Fraud, to me, connotes deliberate and to a lesser extend - large scale.
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Harm our nation's security.
Nov 20, 2020, 11:22 AM
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I've been hearing this a lot lately. How's that again?
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I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 11:35 AM
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that takes over as President in 2 months and isn't getting national security briefings because President Trump is keeping the GAO from signing the paperwork indicating there is a perceived winner in the election.
Also, the incoming admin can't begin background checks on positions in the incoming admin...that runs the risk of putting the incoming admin behind pace of filling key positions.
The different departments are barred from interfacing with the Biden Transition Team until the GAO acts.
I sure as heck am not an expert, but from where I sit, if this goes on for too much longer, it puts the incoming admin behind schedule and does put the country at risk due to not having a smooth transition.
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Re: I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 11:43 AM
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Flow,
I think it is the GSA
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You are right...GSA not GAO. Been a ...
Nov 20, 2020, 1:00 PM
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bad acronym morning for me.
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Re: I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 11:56 AM
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I think Trump should allow the transition team access while he pursues legal remedies, although at the conclusion of all of this, Biden will be the President. I do think it is important to clean up voting irregularities as much as is possible for future elections, but Trump will not be able to overturn the results. Fortunately Harris is getting national security briefings in her role as a Senator. I didn't vote for Biden/Harris but I think Trump is being irresponsible to hold up necessary access to ensure that the country has a smooth transition.
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Re: I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 2:45 PM
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First of all, Biden isn’t making any real decision...ever. Maybe ham or pb&j. Second of all, once Biden is sworn in, he can hand out interim clearances like candy until the background investigations are complete. Up until that day, I’ll trust Trump with my national security.
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Re: I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 2:52 PM
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Outgoing administrations give top-secret intel to incoming administrations so they can continue keeping America secure and safe. Period. That's how it goes. Trump violates this because he doesn't respect American security.
If you support it, you don't either.
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Re: I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 2:58 PM
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What BS.
Biden has no interest in national security. Haven't we covered this? It does not show up in any of his plans. He has no short term memory anyway, so may as well wait until January to give him the brief.
Special K certainly has no interest in national security either except taking zeros off its budget and moving them to the welfare line to buy more votes.
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Re: I think the point on that is we have a President Elect...
Nov 20, 2020, 3:08 PM
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He will have his administration of people that need to be updated.
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Here's former Bush chief of staff Andy Card's answer...
Nov 20, 2020, 3:13 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/11/former-bush-chief-of-staff-cites-9/11-warns-about-slow-transition.html
“The 9/11 Commission had said if there had been a longer transition and there had been cooperation, there might have been a better response, or maybe not even any attack,” the former chief of staff said. “This is very serious, so we’re calling on the president to open up the transition office, give the money out, let people start transitioning, and get ready to take the baton at January 20th at noontime, even if we don’t know the full results.”
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Hey, Trump "identifies" as POTUS. Don't be a bigot.***
Nov 20, 2020, 11:56 AM
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Re: So, we're basically here.
Nov 20, 2020, 2:56 PM
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This is not correct:
-There hasn't been any proven evidence of fraud.
Of course there has been, like in every national election. Unless you are playing on words suggesting there has not been a court case decision yet, which is disingenuous.
I can agree to a modified statement: there has not been any proven fraud widespread enough to overturn the election. But, the democrat party has NOT BEEN EXONERATED of election wrongdoing.
Yes, that is what we conservatives should all run around saying now...the democrats have not been exonerated of wrong doing in a court of law!
In addition, Hunter Biden has not been exonerated either.
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I am sure...
Nov 20, 2020, 3:10 PM
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That there are little cases here and there committed by both parties and more on the local level. But I'm glad you at least admit Biden won this election straight up with no fraud.
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Source check?
Nov 20, 2020, 3:58 PM
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