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So I looked it up
Jul 17, 2020, 8:45 AM
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Spanish flu pandemic killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide
Covid has killed an estimated 0.6 million worldwide. And the death rate continues to drop
That’s about 80 times less deaths this go around
It was much worse in 1918
Ps. Clemson football finished with a record of 5-2 in 1918. The team captain was a guy named stumpy banks
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And the second curve is not what they're showing you...
Jul 17, 2020, 8:50 AM
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Cases going up considerably, but deaths leveling off.
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So people shouldn’t be concerned about this current pandemic
Jul 17, 2020, 8:58 AM
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because it isn’t as bad as a prior one a hundred years ago?!?
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It actually doesn’t qualify as a pandemic according to cdc.***
Jul 17, 2020, 9:00 AM
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Thanks. As you know, it has been widely referred to as a pandemic.***
Jul 17, 2020, 9:22 AM
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I’m not understanding how a pandemic from 100 years ago
Jul 17, 2020, 11:30 AM
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when medicine was far less sophisticated than it is today, and society was much different than it is today, is relevant.
The implication in comparing the two pandemics is that we should learn something from that 1918 pandemic and apply it to this one, but I don’t see how that is applicable here.
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Re: So I looked it up
Jul 17, 2020, 9:18 AM
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Just a reminder.... this was a hospital....
This is YOLO "apartment"
And this was a good idea
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Re: So I looked it up
Jul 17, 2020, 10:50 AM
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The toddler on the bed is the same toddler in the basket.
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Occam's Razor: or they are twins
Jul 17, 2020, 1:18 PM
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usually the simplest explanation is the correct one
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Re: So I looked it up
Jul 17, 2020, 10:57 AM
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woman on the left scares me
and not just a little
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And the babies confirm - somebody
Jul 17, 2020, 1:31 PM
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mashed it out with the lady on the left . . . .
1918 was C R A Z Y ! ! !
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Spanish flu killed 195,000 Americans in October 1918 alone.
Jul 17, 2020, 9:39 AM
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The Spanish Flu - due to it's potency combined with lesser medical capabilities of the time - was much worse than COVID-19 is today.
Not sure how comparing COVID-19 to the Spanish Flu does much for us now other than to say that we have been through much worse yet people somehow continued to live their lives in 1918 without cowering in the corner for months on end...
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Re: Spanish flu killed 195,000 Americans in October 1918 alone.
Jul 17, 2020, 9:48 AM
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There were also 1/3 as many people in the U.S. then.
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Re: Spanish flu killed 195,000 Americans in October 1918 alone.
Jul 17, 2020, 9:50 AM
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Yes, but then you were just likely to die of TB, pneumonia, diarrhea , intestinal ulcers and nephritis. Death rate was 1,800/100,000 as compared to 860/100,000 or so.
Also, back then while there *might* be basic general "awareness" of germ theory among the general population, today we *should* know better....
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Re: Spanish flu killed 195,000 Americans in October 1918 alone.
Jul 17, 2020, 9:58 AM
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Wouldn't that many people dying due to doing nothing actually show the deadly results of doing nothing? Also, it's not like every city did nothing at all. This is an interesting read that actually talks about the different responses of some cities.
https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-pandemic-response-cities
"When a flu outbreak at a nearby military barracks first spread into the St. Louis civilian population, Starkloff wasted no time closing the schools, shuttering movie theaters and pool halls, and banning all public gatherings. There was pushback from business owners, but Starkloff and the mayor held their ground. When infections swelled as expected, thousands of sick residents were treated at home by a network of volunteer nurses.
Dehner says that because of these precautions, St. Louis public health officials were able to “flatten the curve” and keep the flu epidemic from exploding overnight as it did in Philadelphia.
According to a 2007 analysis of Spanish flu death records, the peak mortality rate in St. Louis was only one-eighth of Philadelphia’s death rate at its worst. That’s not to say that St. Louis survived the epidemic unharmed. Dehner says the midwestern city was hit particularly hard by the third wave of the Spanish flu which returned in the late winter and spring of 1919."
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Re: Spanish flu killed 195,000 Americans in October 1918 alone.
Jul 17, 2020, 10:01 AM
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Also from the above article:
"In San Francisco, health officials put their full faith behind gauze masks. California governor William Stephens declared that it was the “patriotic duty of every American citizen” to wear a mask and San Francisco eventually made it the law. Citizens caught in public without a mask or wearing it improperly were arrested, charged with “disturbing the peace” and fined $5."
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"But San Francisco’s luck ran out when the third wave of the Spanish flu struck in January 1919. Believing masks were what saved them the first time, businesses and theater owners fought back against public gathering orders. As a result, San Francisco ended up suffering some of the highest death rates from Spanish flu nationwide. The 2007 analysis found that if San Francisco had kept all of its anti-flu protections in place through the spring of 1919, it could have reduced deaths by 90 percent."
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Re: Spanish flu killed 195,000 Americans in October 1918 alone.
Jul 17, 2020, 10:58 AM
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They also didn’t have modern day conveniences, like apps for delivering everything under the sun, etc, etc.
I’m no happier than anyone else about the situation, anyone with kids and elderly grandparents or parents for that matter feels the same way I’m sure. Just wear a mask, wash your hands frequently and use social distancing, and give thanks to God for another beautiful day.
Make sure you vote, because the consequences of not voting is very evident right now. ????????????????
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Ah man.. I was hoping this was about quid pro quo***
Jul 17, 2020, 9:51 AM
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Had about 1/3 of the Population in 1918
Jul 17, 2020, 10:56 AM
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than we have now.
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The real question is
Jul 17, 2020, 11:13 AM
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Why was he called Stumpy? Or is that something we'd have to move to the after hours message board?
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Re: So I looked it up
Jul 17, 2020, 11:17 AM
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It's all relevant to the times. The bubonic plague (and eventually called Black Death) killed off 50 to 60 percent of the world's population over a 5 year period from its start in the 14th century. Quarantining was attributed to slowing it down.
https://www.history.com/news/black-death-timeline
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Also your world population was only 1.8 billion back then
Jul 17, 2020, 3:12 PM
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As opposed to 7.7 billion now
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Re: Also your world population was only 1.8 billion back then
Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM
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Yea not as many people back then for sure. However, 50 - 60 percent is still the same just more or less total numbers. Except for the cities, social distancing was s lot easier duringbthe plague. As mentioned with COVID, many moved to less populated areas to avoid the chances with the crowds.
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Re: So I looked it up
Jul 18, 2020, 9:27 AM
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That is also with the numbers jacked up too!
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