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Orange Blooded [2432]
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Steele's numbers at Clemson as DC
Jan 15, 2015, 7:18 AM
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As you know by now, former Clemson DC and Alabama LB coach Kevin Steele is now the DC at LSU.
His numbers at Clemson are not that impressive. He started out good and then regressed
Clemson in total defense in Steele's four seasons:
2009: 12th
2010: 19th
2011: 71st
2012: 64th
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Re: Steele's numbers at Clemson as DC
Jan 15, 2015, 7:33 AM
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If we had 2014's defense with that 2011-2012 offense we would have won a couple NC's
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If we would have had ESS, Elliot,Scott,Streeter at the
Jan 15, 2015, 7:37 AM
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Georgia game...............
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Looks almost as bad as Whammy at South Carolina....
Jan 15, 2015, 7:40 AM
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2012....10th
2013....20th
2014....92nd
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I think you meant regressed? But, I digress.
Jan 15, 2015, 7:49 AM
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nm.
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digressed?
Jan 15, 2015, 7:51 AM
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I know you probably didn't want someone analyzing your grammer, but I regress...
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Re: digressed?
Jan 16, 2015, 1:24 PM
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I hate "grammer" - or what it does to the average mind - doesn't everyone?
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Venable has been our DC since the beginning of the 2012.....
Jan 15, 2015, 8:22 AM
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season, right? So, the slight improvement was Venables first year. Steele inherited a good D and took it down the drain. Can't believe that Miles hied him after his Clemson numbers but they call Miles the Mad Hatter for a reason!
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The most important Steele number was 80 ....
Jan 15, 2015, 8:28 AM
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80 mph , as he was leaving town.
All Hail The V
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Two major things here:
Jan 15, 2015, 8:31 AM
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Steele's defense was good when we didn't have Chad Morris's HUNH offense producing sub 2 minute drives. When he came in, Steele's aggressive style of man-to-man coverage and frequent linebacker blitzes became very vulnerable to fatigue. It was also vulnerable to the QB run. This is Steele's style of defense, and it was EXACTLY what Dabo wanted. Unfortunately, that doesn't work well with HUNH and Dabo and co had to learn that the hard way.
The second issue was poor LB recruiting. In Steele's final year, the LBs we had were not very good and were quite a liability. This led to extra vulnerability to the QB run and to plays like jet sweeps (see WVU). One major difference Venables has been able to enjoy is the increase in quality at LB through recruiting (Anthony, Steward, Boulware, etc).
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Steele recruited Anthony and Steward
Jan 15, 2015, 8:53 AM
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Both were freshman in 2011.
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They were true freshman at the time, and I could have sworn
Jan 16, 2015, 1:13 PM
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you just spent a good amount of time trying to convince people you can't count on true freshman to produce
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Are you just trying to argue Stanley
Jan 16, 2015, 1:15 PM
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Or did you just miss the point?
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Stanley? Are you confused or just retarded?***
Jan 16, 2015, 1:20 PM
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Stanley, we know you dont agree
Jan 16, 2015, 1:28 PM
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I'm not going to argue with you.
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Why are you addressing Stanley while you reply to me?
Jan 16, 2015, 1:41 PM
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Are you so retarded you think only one person here sees through your pitiful inferiority act? Hate to break it to you, but everybody knows what a sad little troll you are.
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He doesn't have a point, just him whining about his
Jan 16, 2015, 6:29 PM
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butthurt...again...
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Steele wasn't good the last 2 seasons and neither was the
Jan 15, 2015, 8:33 AM
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talent that we were putting on the field. I don't think he's as good as those 12th and 19th ranked D's or as bas as the 71st and 64th. One thing is for sure though - he will have better talent to work with at LSU than what he had in his last 2 seasons at Clemson so there won't be any excuses for him there.
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Re: Steele wasn't good the last 2 seasons and neither was the
Jan 15, 2015, 8:57 AM
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My thing with Steele is that it doesn't matter how talented your guys are, you have to have talented guys AND Luke Kuechly field-general types in order to make the pre-snap adjustments and such he was asking those guys to make.
Never again do I care to see my Mike backer looking back at the safeties when the ball is snapped. That got old fast.
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What I saw, especially against WV, was a confused defense.***
Jan 15, 2015, 9:00 AM
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... that NEVER adjusted.***
Jan 16, 2015, 1:23 PM
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Re: ... that NEVER adjusted.***
Jan 16, 2015, 1:27 PM
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I called them the "Keystone Kops" due to the way they looked before every snap. The WORST D I have ever witnessed on any team in my entire life.
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Certainly the worst I ever witnessed at Clemson... I think
Jan 16, 2015, 1:31 PM
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the coaches' tapes of the game sealed Steele's demise. NO WAy he could explain that away.
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2012 was BVs first year. Also, our D was 61st in 2011
Jan 16, 2015, 1:24 PM
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...until the Orange Bowl, and we dropped to 71st.
That Nationally televised lung-ripping cost him his job. (WVU could have scored 90 if they wanted to...)
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Re: Steele's numbers at Clemson as DC
Jan 16, 2015, 1:26 PM
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I will say if not for a good D 2010 could have been a 2 win season. But the last 2 years our D about every play was out of place and confused.
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Except that he was only here 3 season, that 2012 year was
Jan 16, 2015, 1:49 PM
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Brent Venables first year
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More relevant stat is yards per game
Jan 16, 2015, 6:41 PM
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We played 14 games in 2011, so the total defense is naturally going to be worse that year than in the others. If you look at yards per game, 2012 was worse than 2011.
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