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Avg SAT scores for all themajor conferences. Note, the

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Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:53 PM
 

ACC is by far the top conference in median SAT score. Clemson would be 7th in Big10, 5th in Pac12, 4th in SEC (though Clemson as a school is ranked ahead of Auburn in U.S. News), and Clemson would be tied for 2nd in Big12

Here is a cut and paste from VT board:

avg sat scores all conferences very interesting
from our new friends from PITT

ACC
1 Duke 1475
2 Georgia Tech 1355
3 Boston College 1350
3 Virginia 1350
5 Miami 1315
5 Wake Forest 1315
7 North Carolina 1300
8 Maryland 1295
9 Pitt 1275
10 Clemson 1235
11 Virginia Tech 1210
12 Florida State 1200
13 NC State 1185
14 Syracuse 1160
ACC average 1287.1
ACC median 1297.5

Big Ten
1 Northwestern 1445
2 Michigan 1350
3 Illinois 1335
4 Wisconsin 1290
5 Minnesota 1290
6 Ohio State 1250
7 Penn State 1195
8 Nebraska 1180
9 Purdue 1170
10 Indiana 1165
11 Iowa 1152.5
12 Michigan St 1125
Big Ten average 1245.625
Big Ten median 1222.5

Pac-12
1 Stanford 1455
2 USC 1385
3 Cal-Berkeley 1370
4 UCLA 1300
5 Washington 1215
6 Colorado 1170
7 Utah 1141.5
8 Oregon 1108
9 Arizona St 1105
10 Arizona 1095
11 Oregon St 1075
12 Washington St 1065
Pac-12 average 1207.041667
Pac-12 median 1155.75

SEC
1 Vanderbilt 1465
2 Florida 1260
3 Auburn 1240
4 Georgia 1215
5 Texas A&M 1210
6 South Carolina 1195
7 Missouri 1175
8 Tennessee 1165
9 LSU 1135
10 Arkansas 1130
11 Alabama 1127.5
12 Kentucky 1115
13 Mississippi St 1102.5
14 Mississippi 1055
SEC average 1185
SEC median 1170

SBC (Short Bus Conference)
1 Texas 1250
2 Baylor 1235
3 Oklahoma 1180
4 TCU 1170
5 Iowa St 1145
5 Kansas 1145*
7 Oklahoma St 1110
8 Kansas St 1105*
8 Texas Tech 1105
10 West Virginia 1055
Big 12 average 1150
Big 12 median 1145
* converted from ACT


ACC is the top in overall avg score as well as median****


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:54 PM
 




Re: ACC is the top in overall avg score as well as median****


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:56 PM
 

Our last place team would be 9th in the SEC


Please send this info to Notre Dame. nm


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:59 PM
 

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Re: Please send this info to Notre Dame. nm


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 8:02 PM
 

why? they can't play football anymore. they had their day in the sun,long ago.

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Re: Please send this info to Notre Dame. nm


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 8:06 PM
 

MONEY

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Re: Please send this info to Notre Dame. nm


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:30 PM
 

you're right on one hand,but nd is the most sacred of sacred cows for the media.always given a pass,always given more publicity and attention than they deserve.that's why i'm an anti-nd fan.

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According to the majority on this


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 8:14 PM
 

Board, none of this matters, right?


of course it matters that our big brothers have high SAT


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:25 AM
 

scores!

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I'm really surprised that Syracuse is lowest in the ACC. ******


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 9:04 PM
 



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I am too. They are considered a highly-regarded


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:20 PM
 

school though. I know they have one of the best broadcast journalism schools in the country. Another person posted the US News rankings of ACC and SEC schools earlier today. That is what prompted me to post this. I am going to check back on his post to see where Syracuse is on that.


Exactly. They produce the talking heads so that's why you


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:30 AM
 

hear its so great.


So are the goals of a conference to

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Posted: Jul 5, 2012 9:17 PM
 

Win games or score well on SATs?


Win games, but it does make me proud to know that our


Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:22 PM
 

conference is the top FBS conference in the land academically. And the top out of all conferences FBS and FCS after the Ivy League. It doesn't hurt things.


ACC ACC ACC woooooooo!***


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:26 AM
 



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Auburn's & SC's SAT scores seems suspect.


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 12:28 AM
 

Maybe they reported cumulative SAT scores, not averages.

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Re: Auburn's & SC's SAT scores seems suspect.


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 2:41 AM
 

Mississippi is an awful state.


I am sure that Auburn's score is incorrect.


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 3:06 PM
 

Anecdotally, I know a recent SC high school grad who was admitted to Auburn as an out-of-state student with an 1185 SAT who was denied admission to Clemson as an in-state student. She enrolled at Auburn rather than doing The Bridge. Auburn's website states that the middle 50% of their incoming students scored SATs ranging from 1100-1320 (meaning that 25% of incoming Auburn students scored less than an 1100 and suggesting a median closer to 1210 than 1240). Other college data sites indicate a median Auburn SAT of 1175 (which is much more comparable with Alabama's median SAT and would explain how an out-of-state student gets in with an 1185).


Are these stats for athletes?


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:17 AM
 

?


No, the overall school****


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 1:58 AM
 




Re: Avg SAT scores for all themajor conferences. Note, the


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:55 AM
 

For all the crap people give the Big 12, their scores really aren't THAT bad.

I'm not a big fan of the SAT anyway. I knew so many kids who made 1300+ on the SAT and then flunked out of Clemson. There's a lot more to be said for hard work than pure IQ.


Re: Avg SAT scores for all themajor conferences. Note, the


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 8:24 AM
 

eh...we are the worst conference according to SAT scores. It doesn't matter to me as long as people (including me) are going to college to better themselves.

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Sooooo.... does this mean we're nerds?***


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:11 AM
 



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Re: Sooooo.... does this mean we're nerds?***


Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:48 AM
 

Compared to SC, yes. Compared to the 9 ACC schools with higher scores it means we're below average.

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Thanks for the invite


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 2:54 PM
 

That's a very insignificant advantage Clemson has over us considering we have over 10,000 more students. I assume this is for the entire student population. Clemson's scores are 3.5% higher and we have over 50% more students. There's no doubt in my mind that the avg SAT score of our top 17,000 students would far surpass Clemson's avg. for the same number of students.


You are simply making stuff up...

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 4:04 PM
 

First of all, USC-Columbia does not have more than 10k more UNDERGRADUATE students than Clemson. USC-Columbia has a little more than 21k undergrads while Clemson has a little more than 15k undergrads - a difference of 6k not more than 10k. But, here's the real fault in your analysis - Clemson receives more than 10k applications from out-of-state students each year and only accepts about 10% with a median SAT near 1400. IF Clemson WANTED to be the size of USC-Columbia (which is does NOT), it could simply accept 2.5 times as many out-of-state applicants which would substantially RAISE its median SAT while bringing in more than $30M in new out-of-state tuition annually at $20k a head. Even if Clemson enrolled an additional 750 out-of-state students along with an additional 750 in-state students each year, the median SAT would still rise though by not nearly as much. In 4 years, Clemson would have the same size undergraduate enrollment as USC-Columbia and the SAT advantage for Clemson would be even greater than it is now.

USC's problem is just the opposite. To fill its classrooms, it is enrolling 800 or so freshman each year with no business at a four-year college much less one purporting to be the "flagship" institution of public higher education in this state.

At a dinner party a couple of weeks ago, I complimented President Pastides on how much more competitive USC has become for the best and brightest in-state students in the last several years ago and told him that during the Palms and Sorensen days, Clemson AND College of Charleston took a higher share of the best and brightest from USC than they do now. I had to get what I thought was a little dig though when I suggested that USC could dramatically improve the academic reputation of its Columbia campus if it simply diverted the lowest 20% of each incoming class to Aiken and Spartanburg. He shot me a look of recognition and said almost in a whisper, "that would be nice."

The bottom line is that USC is run not by Pastides but by the state legislature and those dumba$$es are going to make sure that their brain-dead children, grandchildren, nephews, nieces, godchildren, et al, are going to have a spot on the Columbia campus with their 95 IQs and 950 SATs and all. THAT along with the fact that Columbia campus is in the middle of a crime-riddled hellhole is why USC will NEVER close the gap with Clemson.


Preach it ... But you were way too kind to Pastides

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 4:28 PM
 

about them competing for students. In the last two years, I have watched family members graduate from Porter Gaud and Academic Magnet - by any measure two of the top high schools in the state. Last year at Porter Gaud, more than a dozen of the 80-90 graduates were going to Clemson and exactly 1 was going to USC. This year at AM, more than 25 of the 150 grads (including the valedictorian and salutatorian) are going to Clemson, no more than 2 or 3 are going to USC. In the Lowcountry, anyway, we are beating their brains in.


Re: You are simply making stuff up...


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 4:31 PM
 

USC = 28500
Clemson 17100

http://www.ehow.com/list_6053952_public-four_year-colleges-south-carolina.html

makes me doubt the rest of your post when you're so far off on the one verifiable issue.


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Thanks for making my point! Is your uncle in the

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 4:58 PM
 

legislature or something?

My numbers were for 2011and were from the respective universities. To refute me, you provide me a link to "E-How Mom" that provides some numbers from 2009?!? IF you had taken the time or had the ability to read your link for comprehension, you would have seen that back in 2009, Clemson had just over 14k undergrads (it is now just over 15k) and that USC had over 28k undergrad AND GRADUATE students back in '09 (it is now almost 30k of which almost 22k are UNDERGRADS). The reason GRAD students don't count is that their stale SAT scores from 5-25 years ago are not included in these averages. Those more than 8k USC GRADUATE and professional students (a disproportionate number of which are Clemson graduates by the way) are admitted on the basis of their GRE, GMAT, MCAT and LSAT scores - not their SAT scores.

Are you really this dense? Is your uncle really in the legislature?


He said undergraduate students.


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 5:10 PM
 

"First of all, USC-Columbia does not have more than 10k more UNDERGRADUATE students than Clemson. USC-Columbia has a little more than 21k undergrads while Clemson has a little more than 15k undergrads - a difference of 6k not more than 10k."

http://www.clemson.edu/oirweb1/FB/factBook/CUfactbook.cgi?conf_file_name=FBS_LevelCollege&tabbness=2&colapp=4

Although above states that we have 15,836 undergraduate students and 4,078 graduate students, for a total of 19,914.

http://ipr.sc.edu/factbook/2012/columbia/flenrtd.htm

According to the above, South Carolina has 22,556 undergraduate students and 6,693 graduate students. Excluding the 1,472 professional students (medical, law and pharmacy), that's 29,249 students total.

South Carolina has 6,720 more undergraduate students than Clemson and 9,335 more total students than Clemson.

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LMAO


Posted: Jul 7, 2012 2:00 AM
 

Hilarious conference name for the "Big 12".

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